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LONG TRAVEL A-ARMS RACE X2 YAMAHA YFZ 450R - Blue

The FORCEPARTS RACING Long Travel ATV control arms are specially designed to provide maximum performance in extreme handling. A basis in the geometry of the suspension was included, along with the kinematics and dynamics of the wheel. Created and thought about the angles offall, convergence, inclination, launch, exit, longitudinal and transversal displacement of the wheel.  LONG TRAVEL A-ARMS YFZ 450R Seamless tube 4130 chromoly made in welding TIG, Package includes only the parts manufactured by Force Parts Racing as pictured. Accessories sold separately.  only include the rod for steering end and heim ball joint pivot pin Can use the original yamaha front upper and lower ball joints Bearings: torrington HK 1516 0.83 x 0.59 x 0.63 in Diameter of upper long travel tube: 1,010 in Diameter of lower long travel tube:1,135 in Thickness 0,07 in Shock Long 1.97 in / 2.05 in

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Yamaha YFZ450R DC-4 A-Arm Kit

The Lone Star Racing DC-4 A-Arms are +3/8" wider with no forward placement per side. They are made from 4130 chromoly steel for superior strength and feature our quick camber and quick caster adjustments. They also feature our caster corrector bracket to correct caster change throughout the travel. The DC-4 kit requires long travel shocks. The A-Arms are backed by our Lifetime Warranty.(excluding wear items)

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           20" Extended Length

           5.25" Shaft Travel

           2.0:1 Leverage Ratio

• Reuses factory inner pivot tubes on lower A-Arms
• Must run spacer if using Precision Steering Stabilizer. Can be purchased here  https://lsracing.com/products/yamaha-yfz450r-precision-stabilizer-spacer  

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YFZ Shocks on a blaster

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Hey guys, Has anybody ever tried putting YFZ front shocks on a blaster??? I saw someone talking about it on some other forum and i am just asking if it would be possible? Right mounts? Right length? I'm sure they would be better than 'shee shocks... Cheers  

I ran them for over a year...racing and hard core trail riding....They worked ver y well...BUT i was using +3+1 Burgard A-arms.....so I don't know how well they will work on stock arms... They are definitely longer than the stock arms..you'll need to set the preload....and once your sitting on the machine, it will sit at the correct ride height...Alot of people told me not to use them....they didn't know any better, and they worked very, very well for me...  

don't use them, to long, and not good for the ball joints and can end up blowing them and thats not good.  

ive learned 1 thing from this place, dont listen to any1 that hasnt tryed them, yes they work...buy a set, i agree with christiangiorda, blaster kid is not 1 to listen to  

TTracin574 said: ive learned 1 thing from this place, dont listen to any1 that hasnt tryed them, yes they work...buy a set, i agree with christiangiorda, blaster kid is not 1 to listen to Click to expand...

Not with frickin aftermarket a-arms, what are you thinking the point of using extended a-arms, besides widening out the front end, is to be able to use long travel shocks. For long travel aftermarket shocks for a Blaster its $850 for axis. Compare that to buying stock front yfz shocks for under $200 and if you should know how to exchange shocks. And... if you would want them to be shorter then you simply pay a mechanic an hours worth of work maybe 2 at the most to have them shortened.  

k0rrupt said: Not with frickin aftermarket a-arms, what are you thinking the point of using extended a-arms, besides widening out the front end, is to be able to use long travel shocks. For long travel aftermarket shocks for a Blaster its $850 for axis. Compare that to buying stock front yfz shocks for under $200 and if you should know how to exchange shocks. And... if you would want them to be shorter then you simply pay a mechanic an hours worth of work maybe 2 at the most to have them shortened. Click to expand...

yea true but you in his case he had +3, +1 a-arms so thast what i was going by and i assume they are long travel  

Blasterkid13 said: TTracin574 said: ive learned 1 thing from this place, dont listen to any1 that hasnt tryed them, yes they work...buy a set, i agree with christiangiorda, blaster kid is not 1 to listen to Click to expand...

yeh they can put a little more but nothing to worry about..I had shee shocks on my blaster for about 2 1/2 years or so..  

how do u know what i know about suspension....i know enough for my shocks to work pretty well.... :roll: ive been running shee works on my bike for 2 years or so and my front end couldnt be better, but its dofferent for me i race TT, so who knows...dont be cheap just buy shocks ill sell ya my works cheap  

TTracin574 said: how do u know what i know about suspension....i know enough for my shocks to work pretty well.... :roll: ive been running shee works on my bike for 2 years or so and my front end couldnt be better, but its dofferent for me i race TT, so who knows...dont be cheap just buy shocks ill sell ya my works cheap Click to expand...

I believe YFZ shocks are about 16" eye to eye, correct? Blaster long travel suspension is also about 16" eye to eye. So there you have it, YFZ shocks with LT Blaster arms are good to go. :nod:  

k0rrupt said: yea true but you in his case he had +3, +1 a-arms so thast what i was going by and i assume they are long travel Click to expand...

TTracin574 said: so who knows...dont be cheap just buy shocks ill sell ya my works cheap Click to expand...

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Wanting to improve ride for long trail rides and am considering a long travel set up . Question which one . CRC Crome alloy or lone star or fire ball one better than the other? Why . Would it be good for a trail rig or is more race inspired set up? I see that Lone Star doesn't increase wheelbase . Is that good or bad or does it matter? ????  

Lots of good options out for the YXZ now. For a trail machine I don't think the added wheel base will matter. Couple YXZ's racing BITD with no added wheelbase and they are doing good. Personally I wouldn't go with OEM ball joints but that's just me. I put a list of longtravel kits that are available on here awhile ago  

I see a lot available and they are close in price so which one to get?? Is fire ball the choice for the money ? are the others any better? The new Weller is so expensive and maybe more than an old fat guy needs.  

I talked to a suspension guy that just did shocks for a fireball kit and I think the other was Madigan and he was able to get them to ride very close to each other but took alot more work to get the fireball kit to handle as good. I guess it all depends on the budget and what your looking to get out of it. In stock form I think the car does pretty good for what it is.  

If your willing to part w/some money 4 new shocks valved to your liking might be a option as well instead of LT, just something to look into.  

For trail rides long travel might not be the best option; I have the Lonestar and while it may be a little more stable and smooth in the desert, riding trails you some times come across narrow gates, logs that are 72" apart on trails and even lots of brush that haven't been cleared that far. On one trip with a few RZR's in the mountains above Lake Silverwood in Southern Calif, we came upon a gate 20 miles into a ride that the non long travel cars barely squeezed through and I was several inches to wide. On our last 5 day trip in Utah I had to circumnavigate a few obstacles, and barely cleared a couple gates. And even have some body damage from a log that I tried to squeeze past (rear fender about $260) By the way with the Longtravel and my offset Fuel deadlock wheels my front is about 75" wide and rear 72-73" wide.  

I was on this last FATCO 3 day ride and had my eye out for areas that might be a problem for LT and it was all doable . Few RZR had LT and they looked to ride so nice it made me want one . LT not RZR LOL. With stock wheels it would be about 71 inch wide . Dumont why did you chose the lodestar?  

On the 3 and 4 day rides the areas around La Verkin, Mt Carmel, Grand Canyon etc long travel not an issue at all. The other areas on the 5 day trip around Escalante was much narrower. The RZR's that have been on the trips Ive been on haven't been long travel they have all been under 70" even with offset wheels. At the time I hadn't heard much about the Fireball, and I was having it installed by Eibach, they had connections to get a deal from Lone Star they sell their springs. I think the Fireball might be a better choice the longer wheelbase would be a little better when climbing steep hills and a little smoother on trails I think. Maybe we will meet up on another Fatco trip, so far I have not got to ride with any other YXZ on any to the 5 trips LOL  

Frank pre ran the Escalante ride a week before taking our group out and actually measured the tight areas and gave me heads up warning before each narrow area I was able to make the whole ride without going out of the way, the one narrow spot I was driving real close to driver side to clear some logs soon the right side and a log jumped out on my left side (lol). The guys behind me said I pulled the log partially into the trail I never stopped. Now I am ordering a new rear fender. (I did carry a battery powered hack saw just in case I needed to widen any gate obstructions but didn't need to)  

Would you do LT again if you had it to do again . Pro and cons?  

Long Travel is the first thing i would do if i was to do it all over again. Im a desert guy and its so nice to have this foot print. I spent a week in utah in rockcrawl situations and ate it up. Dunes, Whoops, Cross ruts get sucked up so nice now. Spring rates and valving are a must. If you go with long travel you also need to Change the steering rack,Tie rods,30" tires, Tranny. JMO  

I'm in the process of building a new dessert racer with the Coginto long travel kit. Hope to have it up and testing in Dec and will let you know how it is.  

I would do the long travel again, has a more stable feel when driving high speeds and the whoops smooth out quite a bit over stock. I think I would look at the fireball the longer wheelbase is something that seems intriguing. Over all the more stable width is a worthwhile trade off for having to watch trail width. If you ride mostly narrow forrest trails of course long travel might not be for you.  

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How long does it take to travel from a South Moscow suburb to SVO?

By Jonathan Matthies December 9, 2009 in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus

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Does she have a lot of luggage? I wonder if it would be faster to take a metro vs. driving especially given current road conditions.

SMR   368

I would second this. You can't take the metro all the way, but there is a train that runs from the airport to savelovskaya metro station. The train takes about 35 minutes to get from the metro to the airport. It's not as easy as a taxi, but it's a lot faster. Looking at your Google map, Google says it takes 24 minutes to get to Metro Annino from Vidnoe. Annino is conveniently on the same line as savelovskaya. It would be a long sit on the metro, but you could make it.

Well she decided to bite the bullet and delay her departure until the 11th. Poor Denis gets to celebrate his birthday by flying for 16 hours! It'sa safer this way, because who knows what might happen at DHL tomorrow morning. She may have to wait until the afternoon to get her VISAs in hand. I'm 'taking a chance' by buying the tickets before she actually holds them; but it's a calculated risk.

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My experience has been that taking the metro is going to be her best bet. Traffic in Moscow is unpredictable, and the major roads can be completely jammed up even at 2am.

My experience has been that taking the metro is going to be her best bet. Traffic in Moscow is unpredictable, and the major roads can be completely jammed up even at 2am. But look: this is your fiancee's country. Even though she's not from Moscow, she is uniquely qualified to travel within her country. Don't try to run her travel arrangements from 5,000 miles away. Of the two of you, she is the most qualified to figure this problem out. Put it squarely in her lap and let her do it. After all, if you were planning a trip through an airport in the US that you've never been to, you wouldn't ask her to plan it for you from Vladivostok, right?

The ball is squarely in her lap, and always has been. I'm apprehensive enough of about traveling to NY, I'm not about to offer her advise on Moscow traffic patterns. It was disheartening to see her hopes fade when she realized she'd have to spend another day 'of horror' in Moscow. But she said we'll simply suffer through it and meet up a day later. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things.

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http://www.aeroexpress.ru/schedule/belorussky_sheremetyevo/

Since some time aeroexpresses go from downtown Moscow to - if i'm not mistaken - every airport. Welcome to Moscow, it's not horrible at all. NY traffic is better though.

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Moscow, Russia

I-129F Sent : 2009-06-22

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-06-25

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-09-24

NVC received: 2009-10-02

Yellow Envelope received: 2009-10-26

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How did it work out?

We decided to wait a couple of weeks after interview to be sure visa was in hand.

I also risked buying the tickets just after we learned of the interview date.

Marina returned to Krasnoyarsk to finish packing and telling goodbyes.

I drive to New York to pick her up this Friday

funny Marina studies english video

Days between events...

129F sent NOA1 = 17 days

NOA1 to NOA2 = 150 days...that is 5 MONTHS

NOA2 to NVC in = 11 days

NVC in to NVC out = 24 days

NVC out to being told date of interview = 18 days

NVC out to Interview = 77 days...WAY TOO LONG !

I-129F Sent : 2009-02-27

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-03-16

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-08-13

NVC Received : 2009-08-24

NVC Left : 2009-09-17

Consulate Received : approx : 2009-09-30

Medical exam, Dr Boris : 2009-12-01 Marina passed...with a few shots

Interview : 2009-12-02...Marina passed!!! Visa in hand

Where did the last year go?

Wait wait wait, now we rush to both be ready.

She flys out this Friday, and we both have so much to do!

The house looks as only a guy has lived here for many years.

Estimates/Stats : Your I-129f was approved in 150 days from your NOA1 date.

Your interview took 261 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

Sounds like a plan!

Plans go to chaos!

Aeroflot was 1 hour late of flight from Krasnoyarsk to Moscow, and they sat on runway in Moscow another hour...

Aeroflot put her in motel, and a few meals...but all plans after arrival are in a mess.

A large snow blizzard is heading this way, and should be in New York about the same time she lands on December 19.

(I think she brings Siberia with her)

We may be stuck in New York a few days, as it is a long way home to Alabama by car, with snow blocking the path.

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Long Travel vs. Standard Travel

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Let me start off by saying im not asking which is better. My main question is this, why is it not possible to run long travel a-arms with standard travel shocks? ive been wondering this for awhile, but just now getting around to asking someone lol  

I'm pretty sure standard travel shocks simply aren't long enough to reach both mounting points and have the quad sit up right if on LT a-arms. Think of the opposite, putting LT shocks on standard a-arms, it will make the front sit up way high... If you did put standard shocks on LT a-arms, I would think the quad will sit extremely low and for the shocks to actually dampen anything, the frame would probably come real close to the ground. Does that make sense?  

Yeah, that makes sense. That actual hit on what was in my head. I race TT, and was wondering if a person could use stardard shocks on LT arms to lower the ride height, or if it would sit too low. thank you  

No problem! Yeah IMO, I think it would just sit too low  

Would that mess with the geometry to were the shock wouldn't operate at its best?  

yes it definitely would thats why when you buy shocks new they ask you exactly what size tires you use and the a arms you are using so they can get the right shock for your set up so the shock can perform to the best of its ability  

Alba Racing has arms that will let you use long travel or std travel shocks on the same arms. http://www.yfzcentral.com/forum/169...-racing-long-travel-standard-travel-arms.html  

The long travel a-arms have the lower shock mounting point kicked out towards the tire. This changes the geometry of the a-arm/suspension, which makes the leverage ratio on the shock different. This is why you need a long travel shock for a long travel a-arm. The one exception I'm aware of is the Alba a-arms, which have a bracket that maintains the correct mounting point depending on which shock you have (long travel vs std travel).  

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