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In a new age of sensitivity, there’s a fine line between cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation - and it was a tension Maria Grazia Chiuri tackled head-on with her her Cruise 2020 collection for Christian Dior , presented in a ruined palace in Marrakech.

The rustic glamour of a ruined palace provided the backdrop

After a two-day adventure around the palaces of Marrakech, on Monday evening Maria Grazia Chiuri invited guests to the Palais El Badi for her Dior Cruise 2020 show. Surrounded by the terracotta colonnades of the 16th century fortress, models stalked the courtyard’s epic pool, set alight with hundreds of torches glistening above the surface, giant bonfires cutting through the Moroccan night. This was a collection close to the heart of Chiuri: a cultural exchange between the codes of Dior and the pan-African craftsmanship she has always admired. Working with traditional wax print fabric manufactured in the Ivory Coast, she fused the trademarks of Dior - toile de jouy, tarot card motifs and the New Look silhouette - with a fabric whose history is as cross-cultural as her clientele. “The real thing for me wasn’t just to speak about craftsmanship from around the world, but to go around the world and see the codes of Dior from different points of view,” Chiuri said, noting how wax fabric originated in Europe, then travelled to Asia and eventually found a home on the African continent.

The message of cultural exchange was embedded in the collection's very seams

The show notes opened with a quote by Moroccan writer Tahar Ben Jelloun: “Culture teaches us to live together, teaches us that we’re not alone in the world, that other people have different traditions and ways of living that are just as valid as our own.” In a new age of sensitivity, there’s a fine line between cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation in fashion, and it was a tension Maria Grazia Chiuri tackled head-on. “In this moment, there’s a lot of focus on cultural appropriation, but I think we have to explain how craftsmanship travels around the world; why it’s often so difficult to find the ‘real’ reference,” she said, referring to the pan-African Wax print fabrics that characterised the collection. “Wax started in Europe and moved through Asia, then back to Africa. We want to move our heritage in a contemporary way and give it a different attitude, and this material does that.”

The anthropologist Anne Grosfilley proved a firstrate consultant

In educating herself on the wax fabrics of the African continent, Maria Grazia Chiuri joined forces with the French anthropologist Anne Grosfilley, who served as a guide throughout the creation of the collection. Grosfilley introduced Chiuri to Uniwax, an expert wax factory in the Ivory Coast, and the intricate hand-made print technique that forms the patterns. “It’s about celebrating the diversity of old African cultures. But it’s not an African collection. It’s about the connection between different cultures and promoting African savoir-faire,” Grosfilley said. “It’s different to what has been done before because usually designers like the idea of what ‘looks African’ while they don’t provide work and do something which is really African. Maria Grazia’s point of view was to promote one hundred per cent, African-made textile but not to make ‘an African style’. This collection can be worn by anyone because it’s about the connection between all the continents in the world.”

Collaborators included luminary artists and craftswomen

Describing her collection as “a world map”, Maria Grazia Chiuri invited a number of specialists to collaborate on her show. Focusing on wax fabric - “the fabric of a cultural melting pot” - she worked with Grosfilley and Uniwax on weaving the codes of Dior into toiles de jouy, landscapes and tarot motifs realised in new interpretations. Meanwhile British-Jamaican designer Grace Wales Bonner and African-American artist Mickalene Thomas reimagined Dior’s Classic Bar jacket and New Look skirt; the South African shirt-maker Pathé’O designed a chemise for the collection in tribute to Nelson Mandela; and Dior’s regular milliner Stephen Jones collaborated with fellow hatters Martine Henry and Daniella Osemadewa on turbans and pan-African headpieces. Finally, Chiuri collaborated with Moroccan craftswomen Sumano on the show’s scenography, where traditional local pottery and textiles made up the set decor.

And it turns out Dior has historic ties to Marrakech

In 1951, Christian Dior created the ‘Maroc’, a white tulle dress and coat with silver embroidery inspired by the cooling white colours of the city (which reached 36 degrees Celsius on Monday afternoon). Under the cross-cultural eye of John Galliano, who served at the house between 1997 and 2011, Moroccan influences continuously found their way into the house’s collections. But no designer is more synonymous with Marrakech than the Algerian-born Yves Saint Laurent, who became Dior’s assistant in 1955 and took the reins at the house when his mentor died two years later. On the afternoon of her show, Maria Grazia Chiuri took her guests to visit Saint Laurent’s Art Deco villa where the ivory ‘Marrakech’ coat he designed for Dior in 1960 was on display. Before the show, she described Marrakech as a cultural meeting point between the European and African continents: the perfect stage for the message she wanted to convey.

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This year beautiful Marrakech at dusk was the setting for Dior's spectacular 2020 Cruise show. By Chidozie Obasi

Dior creative director Maria Grazia Chiuri recently presented Dior’s 2020 Cruise collection in an old ruined palace in Marrakech.  The catwalk featured a highly contextual theme that celebrated a myriad of cultures weaved together to enrich and unveil a sense of intercultural understanding.  Rather than just simply being inspired by a Moroccan ethos, Chiuri invited a series of fine artists, craft-makers and artisans from various social backgrounds to join forces in envisioning a broader dialogue between the collection and the social facets of the African continent.

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An enticing list of names from across the fashion, music and entertainment industries were all counted on the remarkable red carpet prior to the show.  The list included the likes of  Lupita Nyong’o, Jessica Alba and Susie Lau (it’s perhaps just best to name a few, before the elation gets a little too sparkly), who had all flown in to witness the presentation of this spectacular and highly dynamic collection.

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As well as showcasing Dior’s exquisite heritage with sophisticated gowns and captivating accessories – all against the backdrop of astonishing scenery that invoked the former creative director’s fascination with Morocco – the collection featured the work of multiple artists from around the continent.  As well as the countless patterns, the collection was also punctuated by a dramatic array of evening gowns, dresses studded by Murano glass beads, bohemian lace wedding dresses and jersey pieces.

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Among the collaborations established for this season’s sumptuous show Chiuri also partnered with Grace Wales-Bonner, the British-Jamaican designer whose work often delves into African culture.  Both are always eager to merge Western and African prints, giving birth to a lavish set of “travel looks” rich in timeless sophistication and premium tastes.

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Chiuri also collaborated with a vast group of surface-pattern designers, highlighting a refined savoir-faire and ability to launch creative partnerships across many local groups in the city.  The whole evening was a well-played and well thought out master stroke by the house of Dior and paid a fittingly great homage to some staggeringly beautiful foreign cultures.

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Dior's 2020 Cruise collection: Vogue speaks to Maria Grazia Chiuri

By Sam Rogers

Dior's 2020 Cruise collection Vogue speaks to Maria Grazia Chiuri

We met Maria Grazia Chiuri , two days before the Cruise 2020 show in Marrakech, which took place in El Badi Palace. Despite having only had three hour’s sleep, the Dior creative director was in good spirits. Her 22-year-old daughter, Rachele – one of her biggest influences, Chiuri says – was standing on the far side of the room, helping to put together the final line-up for the collection.

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The French fashion house has previous connection with Morocco: the Casablanca-based boutique, Joste , was granted special permission to assemble styles based on Dior’s own patterns, cut in Paris in the 1950s; and, of course, there’s Yves Saint Laurent's long fascination with the country, too. Even with the parallels and influence of her predecessors – the collection is stamped with their imprint, from Marc Bohan’s jungle-print to Saint Laurent’s Marrakech coat and Dior’s New Look – Chiuri has written her own chapter with Africa for this latest collection. “Now it is not possible to work in fashion only to make beautiful clothes,” she tells Vogue . “You have to reflect what you do and why. ”

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Chiuri’s sources of inspiration are as rich as they are varied: from the feminist texts of Naomi Zack , to Moroccan-French poet and essayist Tahar Ben Jelloun’s Racism Explained to My Daughter (seen on this season’s slogan T-shirt: “Culture teaches us to live together, teaches us that we’re not alone in the world, that other people have different traditions and ways of living that are just as valid as our own” ); by way of the “ melting-pot fabric ” of wax; Murano glass beads that have been circulating across Africa for centuries; Maya Angelou and Nelson Mandela ’s take on power dressing; and Dior’s own heritage.

“People believe that a project immediately has a very defined idea, but it is not true,” says Chiuri . “It is something that comes together step by step. We are a workshop; it is a very organic process.” For this project, Anne Grosfilley’s book, African Wax Print Textiles propelled that first step. “I read the book and I thought, we can make a difference.”

From there, Chiuri enlisted Grosfilley , a French anthropologist, curator and specialist in African textiles and fashion, and went on to engage the continent's finest. Roll call: Uniwax, the Ivory Coast-based design studio and factory creating 100 per cent made-in-Africa wax fabric; Sumano , an association safeguarding the skills and traditions behind the Anti-Atlas region's weavers and pottery makers; fashion designer Pathé Ouédraogo , aka Pathé’O , who famously designed Nelson Mandela's bold, colorful shirts; Nigerian milliner Daniella Osemadewa and Afro-Caribbean designer Martine Henry , who co-created the collection’s turbans and headwear alongside British milliner Stephen Jones . Plus, African-American artist Mickalene Thomas and LVMH Prize-winning fashion designer Grace Wales Bonner , who were invited to reinterpret Christian Dior's iconic Bar jacket.

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“Craftsmanship is part of our heritage, and as a couture house, we have to speak about that in a different way, in a contemporary way, ” says Chiuri of her motivation. (True to style, the collection showcases Dior’s signature techniques and silhouettes too: the classic suiting, the elegant eveningwear, Chiuri’s beloved denim and couture-like creations in ecru silk, silk gauze, shearling and silk shantung too.)

Working with Uniwax and wax – a textile historically born in Asia, industrialised in Europe and adopted by Africa – highlights Dior’s intention to establish a genuine dialogue with the continent. “It is not using an African print just to make a collection African,” explains Grosfilley . “It is how Dior is talking with Africa, how these two separate cultures can meet and create something new.”

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Chiuri gave the Uniwax studio, in Abidjan, carte blanche to reinterpret the house’s Toile de Jouy motifs and tarot cards. The result is a series of super-sized patterns, rendered in a palette of écru (white) and indigo, burnt ochre, buttery yellows and camouflage greens. “Wax print has always been a prestigious textile,” explains Grosfilley , pointing at the painstaking process behind it’s production – with at least 20 transformative and labor-intensive steps required, it’s akin to haute couture. It’s also a fabric rooted in sisterhood and female bonds. “Only women know the meaning of the designs,” explains Grosfilley , describing the way women will wear specific prints depending on who they plan to meet and the mood they wish to convey. Dancing along the hems of skirts and on cuffs of sleeves is a clear message of shared quality: “ Uniwax Special Edition Christian Dior – Guaranteed Real Wax Printed in Côte d’Ivoire,” it reads. “It is a strong statement of a real partnership and collaboration,” says Grosfilley .

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Pathé’O , who’s designed a special shirt for the show – crafted from wax and emblazoned with Nelson Mandela’s face on the back – speaks of the immense sense of pride he feels to be a part of the collaboration. “The impact of this collection will echo across Africa, and the world,” he says. Grosfilley agrees: “This collection is an indication for all African people – African designers and designers with African heritage – to realize the talent and creativity here. It is time to use it, to develop the economy."

For Chiuri it is also a significant and personal collection: “I want to say that fashion loves other cultures and can work with other cultures. The idea of closing off to avoid arguments” – or she implies, social media criticism – “cannot help anybody.”

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The Cruise 2020 shows have commenced, with maison Dior kicking things off in Marrakech…

Maria Grazia Chiuri has long been an advocate for embracing cultural differences and speaking volumes through clothes for Dior. Just recently, the Creative Director at the maison, jet-setted to Dubai to host Dior’s Dream Parade in which she showcased an exclusive couture collection that speaks of archival influences combined with her own, now signature, approach to dressing the modern Dior woman.

Now, Maria has brought the Dior squad to Marrakech, where she presented the brand’s Cruise 2020 collection in a breathtaking (and twinkling) setup at one of Morocco’s most historic landmarks.

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With a theme titled ‘Common Ground’ the show took place at the El Badi Palace in Marrakech, where a celebration of different cultures came together to co-create and find common ground.

Staged shortly after sunset, the runway surrounded a water basin beautifully dotted with dozens of candles as seven flaming braziers set the backdrop for the ultimate setting.

The space was then decorated with cushions covered in artisanal fabrics and décor embellished with ceramic pottery.

The Collection 

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As for the collection, Maria’s creations just keep getting better and better. For Cruise 2020, a slew of models floated on the runway in a collection that echoed true African cultures.

Going beyond just a tribute of craftsmanship, the creative force collaborated with a host of guest designers from the continent – where together, they created a cultural dialogue if savoir-faire between artists and the maison.

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Exclusive to the show, some of Dior’s iconic motifs (think toile de Jouy and tarot cards) received a makeover done completely in 100% African Wax – all whilst in collaboration with anthropologist Anne Grosfilley. Anne, who is also globally renowned as a specialist in Wax, has collaborated with Ivory Coast-based company UniWax, to create the special-edition pieces.

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The heavy cotton wax fabrics were seen translated through tailored bar jackets, oversized shirts, floor-length pleated skirts, bustier dresses and sweeping opera coats. As for the fabrics and patterns, there was plenty of fine weaving techniques to look at (including double cashmere jacquard, fil coupé or a chiné silk jacquard).

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With several stand-out looks to take in (to be honest, all 113 of them), the collection boasts wearability and contemporary aesthetics with head-to-toe prints and revamped silhouettes, too. The iconic Classic Bar Jacket and New Look skirt were remastered by the British-Jamaican designer, Grace Wales Bonner and African-American artist, Mickalene Thomas.

Plus, the accessories were so on point – we might have to dip into our savings next season.

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Dior’s front row seating was dotted with the usual celebrity crew as friends of the maison including Negin Mirsalehi and Camila Coelho were spotted amongst the star-studded crowd. Jet-setting in internationally however were some of the industry’s biggest names including Jessica Alba, Karlie Kloss, Lupita Nyong’o, Shailene Woodley and Sofia Sanchez de Betak – all beautifully dressed in head-to-toe Dior.

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Maria Grazia Chiuri this evening presented Dior's cruise 2020 collection in Marrakech, the theme of which was "common ground" – a celebration of different cultures coming together to co-create and find mutual understanding.

Rather than simply being inspired by the continent of Africa as a whole, the designer invited artists and artisans from different backgrounds and African cultures to work jointly with her to open a dialogue between them.

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"Maria Grazia Chiuri has always had her heart set on establishing creative exchanges with African cultures," Dior explained in a press release. "With this collection, she sought to dialogue with the real and imagined landscape of Morocco, at the crossroads of the Mediterranean, Europe and Africa, as a dream destination for artists, poets, writers and eternal adventurers."

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The show drew in the likes of Lupita Nyong'o, Jessica Alba and Karlie Kloss, who journeyed to the city's 16th century El Badi Palace to take in the new collection.

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As well as nodding to Dior's rich history with the continent, including the house's former creative director Yves Saint Laurent's fascination with Morocco, the collection sees the direct work of multiple artists from the continent.

Chiuri asked Pathé Ouédraogo – aka Pathé’O, one of Africa's leading designers – to create a special shirt for the collection, which pays tribute to the late president of South Africa, Nelson Mandela.

She also collaborated with Grace Wales Bonner (a British-Jamaican designer whose work has explored African cultures) and Mickalene Thomas (an African-American artist), asking them to reinterpret through their combined creative vision an icon of the New Look, the Bar jacket and a skirt.

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Chiuri also worked with many other African textile specialists and anthropologists on the collection and also highlighted the work of a textile manufacturer based in Africa called Uniwax, which perpetuates the extraordinary savoir-faire that makes wax a precious and culturally rich fabric.

The designer also teamed up with Sumano, an association that aims to revive the traditional women’s crafts of Moroccan tribes, including painting on pottery, the art of weaving and vegetal dyeing.

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I have read many of the threads that discuss whether or not Moscow is worth the expense and long day, especially when there are only 2 days in port.  I realize there are two strong opinions from people with one side saying it is worth it and the other side says stay in St Petersburg. We have decided to go Moscow on day 1 of our visit. 

So, those who have done the long trip to Moscow....did you go with the cruise ship or a private guide?   If a private guide, who and would you recommend them?  Did you take the train both ways or fly one direction?  

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On 8/22/2019 at 9:28 AM, Wayfairers said: I have read many of the threads that discuss whether or not Moscow is worth the expense and long day, especially when there are only 2 days in port.  I realize there are two strong opinions from people with one side saying it is worth it and the other side says stay in St Petersburg. We have decided to go Moscow on day 1 of our visit.    So, those who have done the long trip to Moscow....did you go with the cruise ship or a private guide?   If a private guide, who and would you recommend them?  Did you take the train both ways or fly one direction?  

Been to Moscow several times. We have used the Sapsan both ways and have also flown both ways - never a combo of the train/plane. We enjoyed the Sapsan more than the flight. We have NOT travelled to Moscow when arriving by cruise ship so have no comment on your particular situation regarding a one day tour with only 2 days in St. Pete.  Good luck - hope the visit meets your expectations.

Thanks for the info.  Good to know you enjoyed the train more than the plane - I would expect we would too as flying is typically more hassle than taking the train.  

We decided to book the trip to Moscow with the cruise ship after learning that if we miss the train or plane we don’t get a refund in addition to missing Moscow.  And, I’ve had friends who’s ship missed the St Petersburg stop due to weather.

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Moscow is a great city but I would rather spend all two days in St Petersburg. Some years ago we had almost a week there and still it doesn’t seem enough. We also had one day in Moscow and the journey arranged by the local travel agency was well organized and comfortable. In a view of time restrictions of the journey (we spent almost 8 hours on the train and just 6-7 hours in the city) one day in Moscow still felt a little rushed. Anyway, enjoy planning your trip and hope you have a great time in Russia!

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Just make sure the day you are going to Moscow, it is not one of their holidays or even a day before a holiday.

Moscow is an amazing city but it is frustrating when Red Square is closed for parades, etc.... It is hard to determine when they close it but it is definitely closed for their holidays. When it is closed - you can only walk around the exterior of the square and look in.

Thanks!   I will check.  We are in Moscow May 16.  I know May 9 is a holiday. 

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I have 2 days in St. Petersburg and am thinking about this possibility. I think it’s hard to do this with 2 days. The first day will take longer time to go ashore because of the immigration process. The second day is not possible due to the early all abroad time. It seems that it’s only worth doing it if there are 3 days in St. Petersburg especially when a full day of touring in Moscow is preferred. 

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1 hour ago, AngelDisney said: I have 2 days in St. Petersburg and am thinking about this possibility. I think it’s hard to do this with 2 days. The first day will take longer time to go ashore because of the immigration process. The second day is not possible due to the early all abroad time. It seems that it’s only worth doing it if there are 3 days in St. Petersburg especially when a full day of touring in Moscow is preferred. 

For 2 days - spend the time in St. Petersburg. There is so much to see there. Save this for a 2nd trip.

When we were in St. Petersburg we were also very interested in visiting Moscow. We were already in Russia why not visit as much places as we could, right? We used Anastasia Travel for our St. Petersburg tour and also asked them to include Moscow. They were very helpful and were very much willing to arrange a day trip to Moscow for us but they suggested we just stay in St. Petersburg since we only had 2 days. They were kind enough to explain that we would just waste time and money if me push through with the Moscow trip. We would spend more time on the train instead of using the time to explore and enjoy the sights. They were actually correct and we ended up enjoying a wonderful 2-day tour in St. Petersburg. I guess we'll have to go back to see Moscow and make sure to stay longer! 

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When we went to St Petersburg we had the same dilemma. We decided not to go to Moscow and didn’t regret it one bit. There is so much to see! If you spend the 2 days in St Petersburg you can go and see Peterhof Palace on one of the days. We were on a Princess cruise and like flowslow, we booked our private tours with Katharina from Anastasia Travel.   This way we used our time to the fullest to see as much as possible at our pace with a personal guide. (We are not fond of the big group tours from the cruise lines).

9 hours ago, angie7911922 said: When we went to St Petersburg we had the same dilemma. We decided not to go to Moscow and didn’t regret it one bit. There is so much to see! If you spend the 2 days in St Petersburg you can go and see Peterhof Palace on one of the days. We were on a Princess cruise and like flowslow, we booked our private tours with Katharina from Anastasia Travel.   This way we used our time to the fullest to see as much as possible at our pace with a personal guide. (We are not fond of the big group tours from the cruise lines).

We have two days and decided only staying in SPB for both days. We are thinking of forming a private tour with other cruisers on another forum as the CC roll call for that cruise is so quiet. We are looking into Anastasia Travel as well. Very excited to go!

On 9/1/2019 at 8:09 PM, AngelDisney said: We have two days and decided only staying in SPB for both days. We are thinking of forming a private tour with other cruisers on another forum as the CC roll call for that cruise is so quiet. We are looking into Anastasia Travel as well. Very excited to go!

Great idea to form a small group!! Have a fantastic time and I am sure you wont regret that decision!! 

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I'm not sure about customs when coming in on a cruise ship. We were told that if we wanted to leave the ship, we would have to be on a tour, either a ships tour or private tour. I know we had to show our tour tickets at customs to be allowed to go further. We chose Alla tours and they were fantastic. We were docked in St. Petersburg for 3 days and we did go to Moscow on the Capsan train on the 2nd day. It was a VERY long day. We had to meet our group at 6:00am and were on the train at 7:00am. We arrived back at to our cabin at 1:30am the next day. It was a wonderful day and we're so glad we went but if we were in St. Petersburg for only 2 days, I probably wouldn't spend a day in Moscow. It is a 4 hour train ride each way, and if you need to be back to the ship to depart, it may not leave you much time in Moscow. The 8 hours we spent there, wasn't nearly enough. Traffic is horrible and we ended up getting off our bus and taking the subway to Red Square. Those 8 hours allowed us a tour of Red Square, which was phenomenal as well as a quick walk through GUM department store and a ride on the subway with several stops to see the mosaics, sculptures and chandeliers that are in the corridors of the subway stops.

But.....there is so much to see in St. Petersburg , the 2 days we spent there, were a whirl.

Whatever you decide to do, be sure you're in line to get off the ship before the ship arrives in port. We were in line an hour early and there were still about 20 people ahead of us. We found that the cruise ship allowed their tour groups to get off the ship first, so when we got to customs, the lines were outrageous. It took us about an hour in line and we were late starting our tour. I had organized the tour with Alla and had advertised it on our cruise forum here at Cruise Critic. There were 12 of us and we met up on the ship each morning and went through customs together so we all met the tour bus at the same time. That was very helpful!

The lines the first day were the worst and days 2 and 3 went much more quickly. Also, everyone was getting off the ship at the same time on Day 1, but tours met and left at different times on Days 2 and 3.

16 minutes ago, luvtravel88 said: . Whatever you decide to do, be sure you're in line to get off the ship before the ship arrives in port. We were in line an hour early and there were still about 20 people ahead of us. We found that the cruise ship allowed their tour groups to get off the ship first, so when we got to customs, the lines were outrageous. It took us about an hour in line and we were late starting our tour. ! The lines the first day were the worst and days 2 and 3 went much more quickly. Also, everyone was getting off the ship at the same time on Day 1, but tours met and left at different times on Days 2 and 3.

This is one of the reasons that we decided to use the cruise ship to go to Moscow our first day in St Petersburg. 

25 minutes ago, Wayfairers said: This is one of the reasons that we decided to use the cruise ship to go to Moscow our first day in St Petersburg. 

I believe that the ship tours to Moscow go via air, right?

Yes, as others have noted, there is MUCH to see in Saint Petersburg and in spending a week there one will barely scratch the surface - the same is true for Moscow.

It sounds like you want to get a "taste" of both cities - don't allow anyone to "throw water" on your plans as you best know what you want to do. You can always return for an extended visit.  😉

4 hours ago, dogs4fun said: I believe that the ship tours to Moscow go via air, right? Yes, as others have noted, there is MUCH to see in Saint Petersburg and in spending a week there one will barely scratch the surface - the same is true for Moscow. It sounds like you want to get a "taste" of both cities - don't allow anyone to "throw water" on your plans as you best know what you want to do. You can always return for an extended visit.  😉

No, our ship tour is going by train there and back unless I misread something.  You are right...we just want a taste of both cities.  In fact, that is what we get from all cruise port stops - just a taste.  We are never there long enough to the see the area completely.

2 hours ago, Wayfairers said: No, our ship tour is going by train there and back unless I misread something.  

Interesting - I thought that the ship tours flew to Moscow when in port for only 2 days. Hope you will post upon return and let us know how it went.

16 hours ago, dogs4fun said: Interesting - I thought that the ship tours flew to Moscow when in port for only 2 days. Hope you will post upon return and let us know how it went.

Double checked and it says we go to Moscow on the high speed train.   Come back the same way.   From all I’ve read it takes a little longer (ship to Moscow sites) to fly than to take the train.  

napoxoguk

I've been thinking about that - and I might be wrong, but it seems to me an SPB-Moscow combo over a 3-day cruise is one of the few remaining cases where obtaining a full-fledged Russian visa actually makes sense (especially for families/groups and especially if one is willing to do some DIY trip planning). 

Just to make sure, though - for those staying on the ship, is there some kind of curfew, or are you able to come and go as you please?

4 minutes ago, napoxoguk said: I've been thinking about that - and I might be wrong, but it seems to me an SPB-Moscow combo over a 3-day cruise is one of the few remaining cases where obtaining a full-fledged Russian visa actually makes sense (especially for families/groups and especially if one is willing to do some DIY trip planning).    Just to make sure, though - for those staying on the ship, is there some kind of curfew, or are you able to come and go as you please?  

If you have a Russian visa there is no curfew - you may come and go as you wish. In fact, if you so choose, you can spend the entire time in the city (staying at a hotel in either Moscow or St. Petersburg) rather than returning to your ship each evening - but ONLY if you have a visa.

6 minutes ago, dogs4fun said: If you have a Russian visa there is no curfew - you may come and go as you wish. In fact, if you so choose, you can spend the entire time in the city (staying at a hotel in either Moscow or St. Petersburg) rather than returning to your ship each evening - but ONLY if you have a visa.

That is what my research shows too.  A quick google search showed the tourist visas for US citizens are $160.  I’m willing to pay for a tour rather than get the visa.  We’ve gotten most of the visas that are a pain to get and I’m tired of doing that. 

2 minutes ago, Wayfairers said: I’m willing to pay for a tour rather than get the visa

I understand. Ru visa process can be expensive and time consuming, especially if you live far away from one of the visa centers.

I'm just trying to come up with a reasonably conservative number - what can one realistically expect to pay for a mad 1-day Moscow dash if they go DIY.

For a regular SPB-only itinerary, visa doesn't seem to make sense - not only price-wise, but also from the standpoint of convenience - all the local operators have their itineraries down to a science.

With Moscow, though, it's not so clear-cut.

I found that most of the tour operators will give you a tour but no guarantee that you make it to Moscow because you will miss the train if debarkation is too slow.  I found one tour that offers a 2 day tour with a flight to Moscow day 1 and train back and St Petersburg day 2.   Seriously considered them.   I briefly thought about getting a visa and spending the night in Moscow but never priced everything out. If you look into that I would love to see what you find. Probably not for us though because I want to see some of both cities.  

2 hours ago, napoxoguk said: I understand. Ru visa process can be expensive and time consuming, especially if you live far away from one of the visa centers. I'm just trying to come up with a reasonably conservative number - what can one realistically expect to pay for a mad 1-day Moscow dash if they go DIY.

I have visited Russia multiple times. I received my latest 3 year visa in May and here are the associated costs:

Single/Double/Multiple entry visa, consular fee = $198

Visa Center Processing fee = $50

Total = $248   (this is your total if you apply in person at one of the 4 consulates located in the USA - since I don't live near a Russian consulate, I must use the more costly mail option)

SO ... here is what I actually paid:

Multiple entry visa, consular fee = $198

Visa Center Processing fee by mail = $120

Return shipping/handling fee = $35

Total = $353

Totally worth the fee as I spend multiple weeks in Russia yearly and prefer DIY - personally, I would not consider a visa if it was a one time visit via cruise.

So, for DIY, added to the visa expense, one must add the cost of the sapsan train (or flight), Moscow transportation (metro is great), food & associated entrance fees to the Kremlin (and whatever else one has the time/desire to visit).

FYI: There is a HOHO in both Moscow & St. Petersburg.

Okay, I think the diy budget might be something like ₽20,000 (about $300) per person. This includes:

Train tickets: ₽9000 (5+4); Kremlin+armory: 1700 (1000+700)

Boat ride:600

Meals: 3000 (1500 per casual meal)

Contingencies (Uber ride if needed, etc): 2500. 

It's based on a number of assumptions, so real-life mileage will vary - please let me know if you identify some glaring omissions or errors.

Assumptions:

Done on day 2 of three.

Good weather (lots of outside/walking time)

Earliest Sapsan to Moscow, overnight double decker from Moscow (no hotel stays)

Train tickets purchased at least 30 days in advance, economy for Sapsan and economy plus for the double decker (includes a bottle of water and a piece of gingerbread).

All group members are adults

Done on a day when the Kremlin, Red Sq, and other Moscow attractions are actually open.

Boat ride via watertrams-radisson.ru (the cheapest option with English audio guide)

Sample itinerary:

leave SPB on Sapsan 743a (5:30am), sleep on the train.

Arrive Moscow 9am

DIY Metro tour until 11am

Kremlin excursion (cathedral Sq, DIY) 11:30

Armory excursion (audioguide) 12:30 

Quick lunch (at GUM stolovaya or fast food chains at Manezhnaya sq) : 2 to 3pm.

Walk to Zaryadye boat pier via Alexander's garden, Red Sq, Zaryadye. Boats leave every 30 minutes. Route: Zaryadye- Gorky Park - luzhniki- Ukraina - turnaround - sparrow hills - Gorky Park. Time on board: 2 hrs. 

Gorky Park/muzeon (5:30 to 7:30). 

Head back (metro) towards red sq for evening walk/dinner (tverskaya-kamergersky-b.dmitrovka-metropol-nikolskaya area)

Need to be back at the train station by 10:30 to catch the 006aa train departing at 10:50. 

Back to SPB at 6:47 am.

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“Following the tremendous success of last year’s collaboration, we are thrilled to once again partner with Dior to create a transporting experience that is as stylish as it is sensory,” noted John Scanlon, the hotel’s general manager. “The timeless appeal of our legendary pool provides the perfect backdrop to celebrate summertime with a splash of sophistication and whimsy, while the spa’s toile de Jouy aesthetic and specialty curated treatments capture the radiance of the restorative summer season.”

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