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All the joys of cycling are yours with Trek’s 8.4 DS. This go-anywhere machine is road-bike fast, hybrid-bike capable and fun everywhere. The DS sports a spry aluminum frame with 700c Bontrager wheels and multi-surface tires for a ride that is efficient on pavement and confident on dirt. Up front, you have a 63mm-travel suspension fork with an on-the-fly suspension lockout for when you switch terrain. You even have hydraulic disc brakes, so if you’re commuting in the rain, or riding with a little mud in the mix, there’s the confidence of all-conditions stopping power. Go everywhere and ride it all aboard your DS!

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• Frame Trek Alpha Gold aluminum
• Fork SR Suntour NEX, 63mm-travel
• Hubs Formula aluminum
• Crank FSA Dyna Drive
• Front Derailleur Shimano Acera
• Rear Derailleur Shimano Alivio
• Shifters Shimano Acera
• Brakeset Tektro HDC-300 disc
• Handlebar Bontrager low riser
• Saddle Bontrager H1
• Stem Bontrager Blendr Elite
• Grips Bontrager Satellite Elite, lock-on ergonomic

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Frame looks good with nice lines and while this is an individual thing, the 19" version fits me about as perfectly as any bike ever has. The hydraulic brakes offer great feel. I liked them more than I thought that I would. Grips are also above average for stock. Wheels and tires offer nice mix of better than average roll with some light off-road ability. The chainstay port for the Duotrap is something that I took advantage of and it works quite well. It is pretty neat and tidy and I have it mated to a Bontrager 300 computer. Overall, pretty slick. I have a few bikes in the stable but if I lived in an apartment still or some other situation where I had to pick one jack-of-all-trades, master of none kind of bike, this would be on the short list. I got mine second-hand but after riding for several weeks, I thought so much of it that bought my wife a brand new one.

Suspension fork isn't going to win any awards but it gets the job done for the type of expected riding you're likely to do and they also look quite nice with color-matched paint to the frame. In red, mine really pops. It does have a progressive lockout dial but the limited travel and old-school spring will really be a step down for those used to air shocks on their mountain bikes. The stock saddle and pedals had to go but I can't remember a bike that I haven't said that about in the last 20 years- Anyway, those minor issues were solved with some modestly priced upgrades.

Great all around bike, good on the road, rolls fast. Hydraulic brakes, shifting, geometry (for larger man). Looks

Single wall wheels on stock bike, pedals, Local Trek store (Pittsburgh area)

OK I am writing a review after riding over a 1000 miles on my 2014 8.4 DS Gary Fisher edition. It should be similar to the newer models. I starting looking at replacing my 18 year old Trek 800 last summer. The bike had been nails for that entire time and was going with my son to school. I of course was focused on Trek, though my wife has a Giant(and loves it) and looked at those and a few others, though was partial to Trek. I actually was looking at the FX series but the guy at the Trek store pointed me to the 8.3 and 8.4 DS. I liked the 8.3, but noticed a big difference in braking and shifting in the 8.4 and absolutely loved. Also loved the fact that I could take off road (though not too off with the 700X38 tires) and it was much better on the road, where I do most of my riding, with the larger and narrower wheels. I have ridden over 1000 miles since last August and have loved the ride. Until June it required no maintenance, not even a cable adjust. Just chain lube and pedals (see below). However in June, while riding on a flat, paved trail, a spoke broke. I didn’t think much of it, called the Trek store and they said it would be 7 to 10 days to fix. I took to my LBS I have been going to for years (Giant dealer) and fixed same day. When I broke another spoke in August, I thought this is not right. Took to the Trek store and they gave me some hassle about need to verify the warranty (7-10 days)and If I wanted it fixed it would be 5 days or pay an extra $22 to move up the line. Additionally they told me the wheels where not very good and I needed to upgrade components. I told the kid that’s not what you should be telling people that have purchased a $1000 bike (actually $900 with some add ons). I did say while I did not spend $3000 or more on a mountain or road bike, it is still a lot of money and I don’t expect that. I took back to my LBS and he fixed again in a day. He did tell me it should not be happening and though he thought that type of bike should have a double walled rim (like the comparable Giant) it should not have happened with the type of riding I was doing. I emailed Trek customer service and within a couple days got a call. The guy on the phone was great, said he himself loved this bike and agreed this should not happen. He had a new TLR wheel sent to my local Trek store and they installed in about an hour. The mechanic I got this time was very nice, and agreed this should not have happened on the AT650 wheel. He was glad Trek was taking care of and said I should expect no more issues with the TLR wheel. Overall a great bike if you are an all-around rider. If you are going to just ride roads, or trails, probably a purpose built bike would be better. But if you like to mix things up this is a great bike. It has the clearance for larger tires so you can do more off road. Hydraulic brakes are fantastic, shifting has been great. I have read on some other blogs that the front forks don’t have enough travel, but I have not had an issue with it. Again if you are going to do heavy mountain biking, probably a purpose built bike is better. Also read another blog that did not like the tires. The 700X38 tires that came on the bike have a low knob, and you do get some tire whine on the road, but the fact the tires can go off road is what I like so I have no issue with that. However if ride on loose surfaces a lot, my want to get a wider tire. Only other con is the pedals. They are aluminum cage with a resin spindle. They started clicking after about 700 miles and required lube ever 2-3 rides. I have since switched them out. Outside of the issue I had locally, this has been a great bike and would highly recommend.

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Trek 800, Giant (wife)

Strong frame. Strong brakes, once they break-in.

Fork seems loose and rattles. I thought at first the headset was loose.

I chose this bike for my latest electric conversion for the strong frame, large wheels, tall gearing, and hydraulic discs. I was able to mount 29x2 puncture resistant road tires, but the clearance to the front derailleur is tight. It only took me four tries to seal the front rim while converting to tubeless. With the suspension fork, 35 psi in the tires, and a Thudbuster seatpost, this bike is comfortable enough for everyday commuting. I'm not sure about the manufacturing precision of the brakes, but this is among the lowest costing bike with hydraulic discs. I had to readjust the front after removing the wheel once, and the discs look slightly warped. For the road, they work very well. I have no problem slamming them on stopping at a light at the bottom of a hill. I also had a lot of fun mounting the rear battery rack. The rear caliper was slightly in the way. It took a few washers and longer screws to mount securely.

Although it looks more like a mountain bike with skinny knobby tires, don't be fooled. The bike is FAST. It will pretty much take anything the road has to offer and doing it smoothly. Other than the knobbies on the road, the bike gets 4.5 outta 5 in my book. Traction was surprisingly very good uphill as well. I don't think I slipped once, unlike my Rigid with the Kenda the SB8's, if I stood up at all to climb, I’d lose traction. I also think the non slippage is due to the larger 700x38 tires. More surface to contact to the ground.

The Suntur fork with 63mm of travel is fine for most mild trail applications. For rock gardens and fast 30+mph down hills, this fork can be pretty uncomfortable. The 63mm of travel bottoms out on really hard hits and with just sitting on the bike, it sags about 30mm so in reality, you are getting only 33mm of travel. The only other weakness is that you are limited to going only a 29x2.0 rear tire and nothing wider or it will have no clearance for the front derailer. That is if you wanna go more hardcore MTBing, then i would recommend get a MTB.

Overall, the 8.4 did its job. Most riders told me I should have just gotten a mountain bike since I ride the mountain at least twice a week, get a purpose-built bike, etc., etc. I think that is just what I have done. Its purpose WAS to do BOTH Road and Mountain. And to test the 8.4 on the Loop is a great indicator of how the DS 8.4 can handle the abuse. The tires held up, but would definitely change them to wider tires if you plan on going mountain biking a lot. Same thing with on-road, if you plan on going faster, more on the road, go with the skinnier slicks. So to conclude my review and thoughts, the Trek DualSport 8.4 delivered. Those Trek Engineers along with Mr. Fisher himself did a great job! The only other thing that happened was the lock out switch popping off after bunny hopping over a branch. I didn’t notice this until I was done with the ride and saw it was gone. Luckily, it was on the ground at the beginning of the ride, but been run over by bikes and whatever else that went on the path. I can totally see why the remote lock out would be the better choice..the switch is plain CHEAP. Fail on this part. Nothing to hold the switch in but friction..so i put silicon on it to prevent it from popping out..hopefully it stays. I do like the remote lock out idea. For now, now that I know the 8.4 can take what I have to give it, I will be happy going to the Fullerton Loop and the Santa Ana River Trail for a while, enjoying the ride and staying fit.

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Good for light trails, fast on streets. 27" tires, strong MTB frame., Comfortable and fun to ride.Excellent Hydro Disk Brakes.

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Great all-purpose bike. Can be used as a commuter, street bike or on all but heavy trails. If you can't decide between a road or Mountain bike and only want one bike, this could be the one for you.

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Trek DS 8.4 Gary Fisher Edition Review

Discussion in ' General Discussion ' started by zerogravity , Nov 13, 2011 .

zerogravity (R.I.P.) Lets Ride!!!!

Hello everyone. Here is a little review on my brand new Trek DS 8.4. I upgraded the components to match that of the DS 8.5(The 8.5 wasn't available until December) and because i knew i would take this to the Fullerton Loop, which is a great trail here in Orange County, Ca and an awesome testing ground for new offroad bikes. It has varying surfaces like Asphalt, Single Track, Trails, Hills, and pretty knarly Downhills. All in a 13.4 mile loop. My test was to see if it can handle all of this and manage to take whatever the Loop gave. I am new to the whole riding scene, but as you can see, very excited to tell about it. I got back into riding for fitness reasons. Nine months ago, I was at my all time high weight of 294lbs! I had a ton of health issues, hypertension, shortness of breath, 2 congestive heart failure attacks..I was in bad shape. I decided to change my life around and started going to the gym, eating right, and maintaining a healthy lifestyle. I got my weight down to 255lbs. but reached my plateau. I rediscovered biking especially mountain biking and lost another 25 lbs. This was a little over a month ago. I was hooked and although I had an older bike, a Rigid '91 GT Avalanche, it gave me motivation. It was old though, chain would come off when i would torque it hard, gears skipped..it was time to research a new bike. I looked at many, including a 2012 GT Avalanche, then narrowed it down to the Trek FX 7.5 and the DS 8.4. After many nights of reading on it, it was clear, the DS won my choice. That and i like the SNAZZY Paintjob! Bike: Trek Dual Sport 8.4 Gary Fisher Collection Size: 17.5 Weight As Tested: 30.3lbs Upgrades: The reason for my upgrades was to try to have the Dualsport 8.5's components with the 8.4's paint scheme. That and there was no 8.5's in stock ANYWHERE in my area. I know, silly as it may seem or not as practical, I am a visual person with a background in Art and Graphics. Looks matter to me, as well as performance. So I upgraded the Hays Hydraulic Disc Brakes to Shimano Hydraulics, Changed the Shifters to Deore as well as the Crank. The Rear derailleur was upgraded to a Shimano SLX. The only other upgrade on the components are the SRAM Rear Cassette which was an 11-34, instead of an 11-32. I finally added some Profile Design Bar Ends. All the upgrades would have been about $100 more than an 8.5 and i was OK with that. I didn't, however upgrade to the Suntour Fork with Remote like the 8.5, partly because After numerous calls to Suntour, i finally got through and tried to see if i can just purchase the Remote Switch separately. The customer service rep was very hesitant and finally suggested to buy a fork that already had a remote switch because the parts just to convert to the remote would cost over $400. REALLY????? For $400 I can get Rockshox online with Remote Lockout! First Initial Thoughts(On Road): So take my new ride out for a spin to the local college by my house, Cypress College. On the way there I start to do some testing. Ride: Pretty smooth considering it has the Bonty knobbies on there, it isn't bad at all. This is with the Suntour Fork in locked position. The tires are definitely not as smooth as slicks, but they are fine for street use. For speed on the road i would definitely go to a more slick pattern instead of the knobbies. I went from Sidewalks to the street, going up the curbs and anything i can think of safely. So far, so good. I then changed the fork to the unlocked position and wanted to see how that felt. This is my first suspension fork bike so the feeling is really new to me. I have ridden for a minute other friend's bikes but never really RODE them to actually see how they felt. The experience is definitely different. It almost feels like I’m riding with a flat tire in front. I know it will take some getting used to if I kept it on open but also, it does absorb the bumps so much better than my rigid fork '91 GT Avalanche. Brakes: The brakes were outstanding. So smooth and you don't have to muscle it like my old V-Brakes. I caught on to the feeling quick fast...Disc Brakes ROCK! Shifting: Shifting was pretty smooth and went through all the gears great except the smallest gear in the rear, where it took an extra second or 2 to engage. No big deal for me though. I do know I am WAY faster on this bike than my 21 speed GT Avalanche. The gears (27 speed) give you all kinds of options. I almost feel guilty when going on an uphill and not really putting much effort. So much for fitness right? The big gear in front (gear 3) definitely is the hardest to pedal and takes a quite a bit of leg to go fast. Once you do though, you are flying! The biggest gear in the rear (Gear 1) along with the smallest in front(Gear 1) almost feels like you don't have a chain on the road. I can only imagine how it feels like when i take it to the trails! Saddle: Although the saddle on my old bike wasn't the greatest, the stock saddle wasn't that much better. Maybe I just have to get used to it. However, looking around on the net with the different types of saddles, I’m considering getting an Allay "air saddle" where you can pump the saddle to your liking. They are not a balloon looking saddle, they actual look pretty sporty, but i just think i need something more comfortable. Onroad Conclusion: Although it looks more like a mountain bike with skinny knobby tires, don't be fooled. The bike is FAST. It will pretty much take anything the road has to offer and doing it smoothly. Other than the knobbies on the road, the bike gets 4.5 outta 5 in my book. Now for the REAL test: (OFFROAD): I have to admit, although i whined about the knobbies on the road, i was getting nervous about taking the 8.4 to the trails ESPECIALLY the down hills. I knew it would do fine on the grass and the single track, but the downhills, well...that's another story. Ride: As I started the Fullerton Loop with a few fellow STR members(5 to be exact) I noticed one thing right off the bat. The 8.4 ROLLS much more than my 26" '91 GT Avalanche in my opinion. The 8.4's tires are a 700x38 but are equivalent to a 29'er tire. When I coast, i pass the other riders no problem. I turned the lock out knob to " open " position to get FULL TRAVEL off the Suntour Fork. Single Track. When we approached the SINGLE TRACK SECTION, I wanted to see what it can do. WOW! Comparing it to my Rigid Bike, it is a night and day difference. The singletrack at the Fullerton Loop is FAST. When I tried to go fast on my Rigid, the bumps would make my front tires leave the ground which took away traction, therefore, I would have to slow down a lot to stay on track. Because the 8.4 has a front suspension, my tires pretty much stayed glued to the packed dirt, allowing me to faster and faster, not need to use the brakes anymore or as much i should say. This rates a perfect 10 on my smile factor! Now I know it really isn't JUST leg strength and stamina on the single track. There really is a reason for suspension bikes..DUH!! It carved the corners much better than my Rigid and was just all smiles after that. The Hill Climbs: After the single track, there is a small series of small hills. With my Rigid, I automatically went to 1/1 gears to go up those hills. By the time I went to the 3rd one, I would have to take a break and catch my breath. Not so much with the 8.4. I didn't go to 1/1 on the 8.4, but 2/3 and it climbed fine. Less effort and the larger tires make peddling much less. As I watched the other riders with 26" wheels, they would peddle like 100 mph while I was cruisin'. I wish I learned how to take advantage of my Cateye computer which has cadance on it. I know better now. After the series of hills was a LONG hill climb which gets steeper towards the top. I went on my regular pace then tested the 1/1 gears to see how easy/hard it would be to get to the top. It wasn't that bad at all. Actually, it was a lot less effort than before. Still an effort, but definitely was a lot easier. I’m glad i upgraded to the 11-34 cassette..it was a world of a difference from the 11-28 i had on the Rigid. The rest of the climbs were pretty much the same deal, still an effort, but LESS effort than before. Awesome! Traction: Traction was surprisingly very good uphill as well. I don't think I slipped once, unlike my Rigid with the Kenda the SB8's, if I stood up at all to climb, I’d lose traction. I also think the non slippage is due to the larger 700x38 tires. More surface to contact to the ground. The Down Hills. Now this is the part where I was a little sketchy about with the bike. So far, on the road, on the single track, and the climbs were awesome. Will it hold up doing downhill or would my front tires push and fly off the side of the mountain? This was the part i was always cautious, when I was with my Rigid. Especially with my Rigid, going fast downhill with a bunch of bumps and drop off is pretty scary to a newbie, even with the front tire slightly deflated. I have always been athletic, playing numerous sports in high school and college and some after, so I am no wimp when it comes to being athletic. But even then, when I felt my Rigid start to catch some air on the downhill, I naturally would want to slow down so I could steer the bike and control it. Not so fun. It was a different story with the 8.4. I now understood why so many other riders flew through the down hills so much faster than me. It wasn't just "Cajones Of Steel." The Suntour fork the 8.4 came with did its job! It soaked the bumps and allowed me to put the bike where I wanted..with no brakes! Well, i still used some brakes, but not like before. When you have more control of your bike, you can take it anywhere. If gives you more confidence as a rider and puts waaay less stress on you. I couldn't believe how fast i was going. I managed to look down a couple of times on the fork while going downhill and saw that the fork would bottom out. This is due to the short travel(only 63mm). 2.5 inches or so. It really doesn't sound a lot but it does it's job. I also think if you go to a fork with more travel (80mm) or about 3 inches or more (120mm) or about 5 inches, the geometry will change in the bike. That and it will look like a lowrider with a saggy @$$. I do plan on upgrading to either an 80mm or 100mm with remote lock out, but i also would have to take about 1 inch to 1.5 inches off the stem to fix the geometry(somewhat). That and so i wouldn't do a back flip while climbing up a steep hill. I don’t think a longer travel forks is needed if you only plan on doing trails and no major downhills that are very fast and bumpy. As far as grip, the skinny tires held its own, actually much better than I expected. With the combination of the larger tires and front shock, it was a good match between the two to make it a more than capable bike on the Fullerton Loop. Sure, there are much better mountain bikes out there, with better front shocks and better tires MEANT for hard core trail riding, but remember, this is a DUAL SPORT. It's meant to be able to handle both, which to me it did quite well. Could it be better? I think so. It could use the wider tires and a larger front shock, but that is up to whoever rides the 8.4 and wants to lean more towards the Mountain Bike Aspect or the Road Bike aspect of the bike. Quite honestly, with the way the 8.5 is now, I think it is just fine for someone who just wants to do a little of BOTH. Final Thoughts: Overall, the 8.4 did its job. Most riders told me I should have just gotten a mountain bike since I ride the mountain at least twice a week, get a purpose-built bike, etc., etc. I think that is just what I have done. Its purpose WAS to do BOTH Road and Mountain. And to test the 8.4 on the Loop is a great indicator of how the DS 8.4 can handle the abuse. At the last part of the trail was a little downhill but because of the rain, cracks on the packed dirt got deeper and my front tires got caught in between them sending me flying off the bike. I knew it was a pretty hard crash when I hit my head on the ground and my helmet flew off my head. (yikes). Like any machismo mentality, the first thing that came to my mind was "is my bike broken?" It wasn't...even though I did a front flip and both my arms and legs have mean trail-rash on them now. The DS 8.4 survived and it did it with flying colors. The tires held up, but would definitely change them to wider tires if you plan on going mountain biking a lot. Same thing with on-road, if you plan on going faster, more on the road, go with the skinnier slicks. So to conclude my review and thoughts, the Trek DualSport 8.4 delivered. Those Trek Engineers along with Mr. Fisher himself did a great job! The only other thing that happened was the lock out switch popping off after bunny hopping over a branch. I didn’t notice this until I was done with the ride and saw it was gone. Luckily, it was on the ground at the beginning of the ride, but been run over by bikes and whatever else that went on the path. I can totally see why the remote lock out would be the better choice..the switch is plain CHEAP. Fail on this part. Nothing to hold the switch in but friction..so i put silicon on it to prevent it from popping out..hopefully it stays. I do like the remote lock out idea. For now, now that I know the 8.4 can take what I have to give it, I will be happy going to the Fullerton Loop and the Santa Ana River Trail for a while, enjoying the ride and staying fit. PS...sorry again for such a long review..i just had a lot to say. =)  

herzalot Well-Known Member

Welcome to the sport and enjoy your new bike. Something to remember about bike saddles - they are not seats. They are meant to hold 1/3rd or less of your weight - your hands and feet hold most of your weight. MANY newbs make the mistake of trying to be very upright and then buying a big-ass "comfy" seat. Save that for the beach cruiser. Big seats will get in your way and hamper your performance and progression whether seated, standing, downhill or up - and remember - if you aren't pedaling, you should be standing. No coasting while seated. Have fun out there and congrats on the weight loss.  

2wheel_lee Active Member

That was quite a write-up! zerogravity said: ↑ Hello everyone. Here is a little review on my brand new Trek DS 8.4. I upgraded the components to match that of the DS 8.5(The 8.5 wasn't available until December) and because i knew i would take this to the Fullerton Loop , which is a great trail here in Orange County, Ca and an awesome testing ground for new offroad bikes. It has varying surfaces like Asphalt, Single Track, Trails, Hills, and pretty knarly Downhills . Click to expand...

I've never done the Fully Loop, but if there are some gnarly downhills on it, I'll bring my DH sled and give 'er a go! Ahhh...newbiness...any hill can be gnarly for sure. To the OP's credit, The Loop has certainly taken out its share of experienced riders, based on what I've read.  

herzalot said: ↑ I've never done the Fully Loop, but if there are some gnarly downhills on it, I'll bring my DH sled and give 'er a go! Ahhh...newbiness...any hill can be gnarly for sure. To the OP's credit, The Loop has certainly taken out its share of experienced riders, based on what I've read. Click to expand...

kaboomims New Member

Everything is relative. If its gnarly to you then that it is! Soon it will be so easy you can do that trail at night with no lights and your eyes closed. Glad you like your new bike! Talking about that old GT brings back memories Triple triangle haha! Ian  

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Zaryadye Park, a massive landscape located across from the Kremlin along the Moskva River, opened last September to the public after a dedication ceremony from Russian President Vladimir Putin. DS+R’s $245 million design was selected out of 90 submissions in an international competition in 2013. In the project description , the architects describe the park as a place featuring “Wild Urbanism,” with intertwining sections of landscape and hardscape, natural and artificial. The parkland includes a mix of indoor and outdoor spaces with a 229-foot cantilevering river overlook, a media center, nature center, restaurant, market, two amphitheaters, and a philharmonic concert hall to come next spring.

Charles Renfro, head architect on the project, said he’s thrilled at the park’s overwhelming popularity. “I love this!” he told Artnet in an email. “What freedom our park has brought to Moscow and what tolerance it seems to be engendering from the authorities.”

The Moscow Times reported that the city’s chief architect, Sergei Kuznetsov, is apparently okay with the sexual escapades happening within the public park and attributes the unprecedented uptick to the safety and comfort that Moscow offers visitors and residents. Some local lawmakers, however, feel the opposite . Getting caught for having sex in public in Russia means up to 15 days in jail.

DS+R’s 14,000-square-meter vision takes up a quarter of downtown Moscow and is the first large-scale park built in the city in 50 years. The site was formerly populated by a Jewish enclave in the 1800s, and once served as the foundations of a never-built Stalinist skyscraper. For nearly 40 years, it was the home of the largest hotel in Europe, the 21-story Hotel Rossiya, until it closed in 2006.

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Centrally located steps from St. Basil’s Cathedral, Red Square and the Kremlin, Zaryadye Park sits on a historically charged site saturated by Russia’s collective past and evolving aspirations. As a historic palimpsest, the 35-acre site has been populated by a Jewish enclave in the 1800’s, the foundations of a cancelled Stalinist skyscraper, and the Hotel Rossiya—the largest hotel in Europe until its demolition in 2007. For five years, this central piece of Moscow real estate—encompassing a quarter of downtown Moscow— remained fenced as plans to extend its use as a commercial center by Norman Foster were underway. In 2012, the City of Moscow and Chief Architect Sergey Kuznetsov organized a design competition to transform this historically privatized, commercial territory into a public park. An international design consortium led by Diller Scofidio + Renfro (DS+R) with Hargreaves Associates and Citymakers was selected out of ninety submissions representing 27 different countries.

Wild Urbanism

As the first large scale park to be built in Moscow in the last fifty years, Zaryadye provides a public space that resists easy categorization. It is at once park, urban plaza, social space, cultural amenity, and recreational armature. To achieve this simultaneity, natural landscapes are overlaid on top of constructed environments, creating a series of elemental face-offs between the natural and the artificial, urban and rural, interior and exterior. The intertwining of landscape and hardscape creates a ‘Wild Urbanism,” introducing a new offering to compliment Moscow’s historically formal, symmetrical park spaces. Characteristic elements of the historic district of Kitay-Gorod and the cobblestone paving of Red Square are combined with the lush gardens of the Kremlin to create a new park that is both urban and green. A custom stone paving system knits hardscape and landscape together— generating a blend rather than a border—encouraging visitors to meander freely. Zaryadye Park is the missing link that completes the collection of world-famous monuments and urban districts forming central Moscow.

Traversing between each corner of the park, visitors encounter terraces that recreate and celebrate four diverse, regional landscapes found in Russia: tundra, steppe, forest and wetland. These zones are organized in terraces that descend from northeast to southwest, with each layering over the next to create a total of 14,000 square meters of enclosed, programmed spaces integrated into the landscape: nature and architecture act as one. Visitors can enjoy a river overlook cantilevering 70 meters over Moscow River, media center, nature center, restaurant, market, two amphitheaters and a philharmonic concert hall (scheduled for completion in Spring 2018).

Augmented Microclimates

The sectional overlay also facilitates augmented microclimates that seek to extend the typically short park season. These passive climate-control strategies included calibrating the topography of one of the park’s landscaped hills and the amphitheater's glass crust to leverage the natural buoyancy of warm air. As a result, wind is minimized, plants stay greener longer, and the temperature rises gradually as visitors ascend the slope. Warmer air is retained during the colder months, while in the summer, motorized glass panels open to expel heat through the roof.

These natural zones provide places of gathering, repose and observation, in concert with performance spaces and enclosed cultural pavilions. In addition to these programmed destinations, a series of vista points provide a frame for the cityscape to rediscover it anew. Each visitor’s experience is tailor made for them, by them.

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Stalin’s Soviet Union – Moscow in 1953-1954

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Major Martin Manhoff spent more than two years in the Soviet Union in the early 1950s. He worked as an assistant to the military attache in the U.S. Embassy, ​​located near Red Square.

Manhoff, being a gifted photographer, shot hundreds of scenes from everyday Soviet life – both in Moscow and in other regions of the USSR.

Construction of the hotel “Ukraina” from the roof of the U.S. Embassy on Novinsky Boulevard. On the left you can see the Church of the Nine Martyrs of Cyzicus (1954).

After the accusations of espionage, he left the country with hundreds of color slides and negatives taken during his time in the USSR. Among these materials was the shooting of Stalin’s funeral – one of the turning points in Soviet history.

Hotel “Moskva” on Manezh Square.

The Kremlin from the entrance to the U.S. Embassy.

In 1953, Red Square was not yet closed to traffic.

Approaching the intersection of Okhotny Ryad and Tverskaya Street.

Movie theater “Khudozhestvenny” on Arbat Square.

Theater Square.

Driving up Bolshaya Nikitskaya Street.

The Trinity Lavra of St. Sergius.

Novinsky Boulevard, 18.

Storefront at Theater Square.

Novospassky Monastery.

The corner of Bolshoi Devyatinsky Pereulok and Novinsky Boulevard.

The view from Vorobyovy Gory.

The newly built main building of Moscow University in the night illumination.

The funeral of Stalin.

Celebration at Manezhnaya (Manege) Square.

Pushkin Square.

The building of the Central Telegraph.

Moscow Zoo.

In the pool of Moscow State University.

Metro station “Park of Culture”.

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