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‘Picard’ Production Designer Says ‘Star Trek: Legacy’ Spin-off Is “Just A Nice Idea”

| January 31, 2024 | By: TrekMovie.com Staff 174 comments so far

We have another update from a veteran of  Star Trek: Picard talking about a potential spin-off. Now production designer Dave Blass is weighing in, pouring a bit of reality on hopes for what has been dubbed “Star Trek: Legacy.”

Dave Blass talks Legacy

As we have been reporting since Picard wrapped up its third and final season last April, showrunner Terry Matalas has wanted to follow up the show with what he has called “Star Trek: Legacy,” which would carry on the story of Captain Seven of Nine of the USS Enterprise G and her crew of “next Next Generation ” characters. Members of the cast including stars of Star Trek: The Next Generation who appeared in season 3 have enthusiastically endorsed the idea. Just last week we reported that actress Michelle Hurd (Commander Raffi Musiker) said “If the fans still want it, they’ll start working on Star Trek: Legacy. ”

In a new interview with Wap Factor Trek , Picard production designer weighs in, clarifying the current status:

“Quoting Paramount, Star Trek: Legacy isn’t a thing,” he states, “so it’s not in development and it’s not in any way moving forward. Until that changes, it’s just a cool idea. It’s like Phase II of Star Trek: The Original Series . That actually got greenlit and was moving forward, but Legacy is just a nice idea. It’s great that the fans like it and want it, and maybe it will happen at some point. But right now, it’s not remotely a thing. It’s not happening unless something massive happens. Paramount is deep into production on Section 31 and Starfleet Academy .”

Dave Blass on the recreated Enterprise-D set from Picard season 3

To be fair to Hurd’s more optimistic update, the actress did note that work on Legacy would follow the Section 31 TV movie (which started shooting this week ) and Starfleet Academy (slated to start filming later this year). For his part, earlier this month Terry Matalas also made it clear that there was no development work being done for Legacy , noting “I wish!”

In the new interview with David Blass, the production designer did offer his hopes for Legacy , saying “I think everyone would love to see it happen.” When it comes to the logistics of such a thing, Blass pointed out that even if Paramount+ were to give the show a green light today, no production could take place until 2025, noting “Everything takes time and a lot of money.”

Michelle Hurd as Raffi Musiker and Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine in “The Last Generation” (Paramount+)

In an interview with TrekMovie late last year Blass talked about how he had put some thoughts into how he would approach things if Legacy were ever to happen. Regarding the set designs of the Enterprise-G, Blass said:

“I think we would keep the same style [as seen on  Picard ]. And I think we would be able to do things bigger, better, cooler. I appreciate what they what they do on the on the other [Star Trek] shows. I also look at something like  The Mandalorian  as a good touchstone because  The Mandalorian  looks like it belongs in the Star Wars universe. The technology is the same. Just because they have the “Volume” (AR Wall virtual set) and the technology to do big cool things, you don’t need to change what the look of it looks like. So I would do what we did in  Picard  in  Legacy . It should look like Star Trek. It should look like what an evolution of what  Star Trek: The Next Generation  would look like. Going into it, knowing that budgets are going to be tight and we’re going to do things and make use of the technology in ways that would benefit the show. So if you have to go to a new planet, maybe that’s the best way to use the Volume AR wall and expand sets. Maybe our engine room is more of a classic,  Next Generation ,  Voyager ,  First Contact  engine room that is a physical set that’s got height and does something like that, not a virtual set.”

It’s worth checking out the full interview at Warp Factor Trek for more from Blass on designing for Star Trek: Picard .

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Can’t exactly say I’m surprised by how thoroughly this contradicts that Sci-Trek guy’s recent claim to the contrary.

Who is Sci Trek guy? And what was his claims?

A YouTuber. I don’t follow YouTube much, myself, but his recent claim that Legacy has been given the go-ahead, and will be announced over the summer for a 2025 premiere, made traction in some circles.

…Unfortunately.

Oh he sounds like another Midnight Edge channel and just throws out BS. Got it. Thanks.

Stop listening to youtube. youtube is the number one source for misinformation on the internet. YouTubers are straight up lying to get views now. Just last week I deleted my youtube account out of disgust.

I work as a journalist, believe you me, I don’t need to be reminded about this stuff.

I only heard about this secondhand via TrekBBS.

Last week, I watched a YouTube video on bathroom tile grouting. It was spot on! No misinformation that I could see, and my bathroom looks great. If you’d like A34, I could send it to you. Also, I don’t think you need a YouTube account to watch, just a link, so not all hope is lost.

You just need to exercise proper critical thinking and judgment and that will keep you away from the trashy content.

Yeah I know that guy and he’s basically a low rent Midnight’s Edge (which oddly enough those guys have been pretty quiet lately).

Everything he says is BS. And I have commented on his channel multiple times calling it out. The thing that really bothers me about people like this isn’t the fact that he keeps getting fans hopes up about a non-existent project like Legacy is in the works, but that he clearly has an agenda against Kurtzman and the current Trek shows NOT named Picard season 3.

So he makes just as many videos with the usual nonsense how Kurtzman is on his way out, Discovery is getting cancelled (I mean like years ago), Paramount is going to reboot the entire franchise, blah, blah, blah. This stuff just irritates me and people do it again and again. The stuff he clearly doesn’t like he downgrades and pretend its all going away while the stuff he does like such as Legacy is secretly being set for a 5 season run on Amazon or something. And people do it here too, they know who they are. It’s just eye rolling. And of course he makes these videos because there is a deluded but active audience that believes this stuff or simply wants to believe it. But this guy knows NOTHING.

Best example. He made a video stating his ‘sources’ at Paramount made clear the Starfleet Academy show was dead in the water with executives not convinced there is an audience for it and passed. Three days after that video they announced the show. A day after that, you guessed it, he made a video citing how his ‘trusted sources’ wasn’t informed of the ‘last minute decision’ that they decided to go with the show after all. And many people still believed him lol. You wonder how Trump voters believes everything that corrupt criminal and liar says, well, here’s your example.

Sometimes I really hate the internet.

Never heard of him, but there are a lot of people online who just make things up and pretend they have sources.

My favorite is the Nerdrotic guy who claimed Kurtzman was fired because he had a reliable source that told him so. He road that wave to huge success on YouTube. It works!

Isn’t he the same guy that claimed Picard was cancelled before it aired?

Yes I saw that too. Apparently he has contacts at Paramount and blah, blah, blah… Even went on to say that a deal had already been signed off on. Either for a Legacy movie or the origin Star Trek movie… He’s been blabbing on Stargate too but just a few days ago had to post a video that apparently it fell through (the Stargate deal). Yeah right…

Let’s not give any more oxygen to unsubstantiated rumors.

At this point it is probably safe to assume that Legacy, or whatever it might end up being titled, will depend on Paramount’s new owners. I was reading that Byron Allen’s Media Group has made an offer for Paramount Global. I wouldn’t expect much until the dust settles.

Even if this pans out…(from the article)

Per the report, Allen plans to sell the Paramount film studio, which has produced top movies from “Top Gun: Maverick” and the “Mission Impossible” franchise to the recent breakout thriller “Smile” and kid-friendly “Paw Patrol.”

He would also sell real estate and some other intellectual property but retain the TV channels and Paramount+ streaming service. He would plan to run them on a more cost-efficient basis, Bloomberg noted.

This does not say, “Investment in IPs” to me.

I agree it doesn’t and is concerning about the future of Star Trek.

If he’s just going to sell the studio and hollow out the brand and the streaming service so that it’s basically “The New CW” 2.0, I’d just as soon he sold Star Trek to someone who might invest in it. (Which may actually be the endgame)

Allen’s plan just sounds like more vulture capitalism.

I think if he can prove he can finance it, this will get done because he’s offered 50% above share price, and that’s too much to pass up.

I hope that wherever Star Trek lands, it ends up in the hands of someone that knows what it is and understands the audience it generally appeals to.

I’m hoping the upshot is, Allen can keep the linear assets but spins off content production, whether streaming or movies, to a party like Skydance, who then can do distribution deals as needed. Licensing Star Trek to Netflix just makes so much sense, especially if there are related theatrical movies that Netflix could help develop interest for.

This deal isn’t going anywhere.

Trek exists to make money. It’s not a charity.

“The New CW” 2.0 – I mean, isn’t that basically what this Academy show is going to be?

Since you have no clue what you’re talking about I’m going to say No.

I’m ok with only one or two Trek shows a year. That whole trek all year long thing was never going to last forever.

“ At this point it is probably safe to assume that Legacy, or whatever it might end up being titled, will depend on Paramount’s new owners. ”

No, the point is that it won’t be titled anything because it’s not something that was ever in the works. And if/when new owners come in, the last thing they’ll do would be to greenlight a show with exorbitant cast paychecks. Quite the opposite–they’d be looking to CUT costs.

Yeah, I was just being optimistic and going with the “what if” sentiment of the article. I don’t believe for a moment that anyone in charge is taking “Legacy” seriously. The very name suggests it would be too expensive to produce with all of the “Legacy” paychecks that would be involved, and no studio wants to just throw money at a vanity project without a sure return on the investment.

Who would be exorbitant in a Legacy ? Jeri Ryan is by far the most famous, and Bosch on Amazon and Dark Winds on AMC was able to afford her. She’s no Harrison Ford in Yellowstone . Any of the other actors, if they want too much, can be easily recast.

I think Ryan can ask a lot more for returning as Seven, than a guest spot on another show. Sure, she’s not the biggest star in the world, but returning actors to franchises they’ve played a memorable part in have bargaining power. And good for them. If familiarity has value to the studios and fans, the actors paychecks should reflect that.

She can probably also demand a premium if she is the lead of the show instead of (just) a series regular.

I think Allen would have all the “linear” assets while selling streaming series and movie production (to Skydance?) He would keep Paramount+ but without premium content, what’s the point? Might as well dump that and keep Pluto going. That’s the low-cost Paramount service.

Skydance would make Star Trek series and movies (hopefully more coherent, under single control) and license the series to Netflix. Why not take advantage of that 260M subscriber base? Nice way to drum up interest in the theatrical movies.

I think Amazon would be a good home for the franchise. CEO is a big Trek Fan and they would have the money to spend on talent.

They own Stargate and have done absolutely nothing with it, so I don’t know how much ‘they have money’ counts.

They could do some nifty product placement within the show. Starfleet could have a ship called The Amazon that delivers self-sealing stem bolts to other Federation ships. Same-day delivery if within a sector of the Galaxy.

We’d find out the Ferengi were behind it once they started raising their rates every time one turns his back on the business for two seconds.

Which is a shame since Stargate is my second favorite sci-fi franchise.

Bezos is a real Star Trek Fan. However, the less changes the better. I really hope these higher ops moves don’t affect continuity more than what we already have experienced.

Bezos is not the CEO, he’s on the board but he’s not running operations or making any of those kinds of decisions

I agree. All I am saying is that I hope there are no changes. Star Trek is moving forward nicely. However, if Amazon decides to take over, could be “ok.” 🤞

I am not an Amazon fan. However Bezos being a big fan, I just hope is a good home for the franchise, if that is the direction they decide to take.

I personally have no luck finding good/interesting shows or movies in their streaming service. Except one show, The Expanse, which by the way was not originally created by Amazon.

The last season created by them was OK. But cannot come compare with the first two seasons. Very unfortunate they haven’t approved new seasons. Same luck, like Stargate.

My hope is that Star Trek is way too big for anyone to shelve it. Almost 6 decades of loyalty by fans and producers.

Definitely not. They’ve done nothing with Stargate. I’m positive they’d do nothing with Trek either.

Stargate doesn’t have the same cultural impact though.

I know some of you guys are fans, but I’ve never really cared about it.

I’m getting the feeling Amazon is disgruntled with streaming in general and big franchises like Lord of the Rings in particular. They seem to be pivoting to ad-supported sports and content for the sports audience. Reacher, Road House etc. Star Trek wouldn’t be a good fit.

The better approach is: make Star Trek series and license them to Netflix, who can show them to 260M subscribers, and whip up excitement for the theatrical movies. This makes so much sense, I can’t imagine them not doing this.

Maybe if they had made a good Lord of the Rings show they might have had better numbers.

(said with slight sarcasm, it wasn’t THAT bad, given what they had (or rather didn’t have) to work with.

Someday I think Discovery will land on Netflix in America and it will be new to a lot of people. It will be like Suits where people start talking about an old show again like it’s new.

People use to hate TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT the they first came out. I don’t put much weight on what trek fans think.

Which is funny because I used to remind people of that every time fans claimed Discovery was getting special hatred. Noo, it was getting the same hatred as those got, so stop sounding triggered over it.

And guess what Picard got the same hatred to. And to a (small) extent LDS. The only shows that got complete love out of the gate was SNW and PRO IMO. And yes people don’t like those either but it was never divisive.

Yeah Paramount is just too broke, I think everyone got that message by now.

It doesn’t mean it can’t happen eventually unless they just stop making more Star Trek in the future. But Paramount right now probably don’t think Trek is viable enough to make more than 2-3 shows at the moment. It probably does OK for P+ but it’s not Taylor Sheridan shows either which probably brings in much bigger views. They already made 6 shows of his and I read there are another 3 more in the works. That’s 9 shows the guy will have for P+. If NuTrek was performing that well we would have that many shows too including Legacy.

But we have to face reality Trek is just not big enough to make more shows with or Paramount just doesn’t think it’s worth making more. Either way the outlook doesn’t look too great past SFA right now. 😥

Broke for corporations really mean not making gazillions. Impossible they are loosing money.

I don’t mean broke broke, I just mean they have to be more strategic on what they greenlight.

The Taylor Sheridan shows are a good example. They cost way more than the Star Trek shows but they all seem to be a sure bet of getting a bigger audience so they keep making more regardless of cost.

With Star Trek they have a guaranteed audience but probably a much smaller one. And since two shows got cancelled there is probably a thought not to make too many of them anymore or just cost too much for what they pull in.

If Star Trek had the audience like the Yellowstone shows then we would probably have the Legacy show, SNW, Discovery on for a few more seasons and the Academy show.

But that’s probably just too much money for what they pull in and probably keeping the stuff that will cost them less money to make.

It’s probably the same issue with another Trek movie. They have the money to make one but it’s not a sure bet anymore so they just keep delaying it or changing up ideas because they are too worried it will bomb.

I really think this show is moving forward. It has it all to be a hit.

It’s not.

It is not moving forward. We keep being told it is just an idea hyped by a few folks involved with Picard.

For a while Mulgrew was talking up a Janeway series. Doesn’t mean it was actually happening. Eventually we all kind of forgot about it.

Yet evidently they are moving forward with Starfleet Academy , a show which has generated modest excitement at best.

I’m guessing the Academy show will be far less cheaper with new and younger actors. There won’t be a Patrick Stewart or Jeri Ryan starring on that show.

They obviously can’t afford to do both of them either. If this was Disney+ or Netflix, both could get made.

Why would it have Patrick Stewart? It is called Legacy , not Picard, Season 4 . I can see Jonathan Frakes, but not Stewart. Besides, isn’t Stewart talking about making another movie?

It wouldn’t. Just throwing out an example. Academy will be all new actors although I guess Tilly may be in it.

While I’m sure Stewart hasn’t thrown away Kurtzman’s phone number, it looks like the news about a new Picard movie was misreported.

It’s hard to know when / if they would pop a new series in the slate, but if they bypass this idea in favor of another one, it show’s they are in fact, inept. As with SNW, it was product tested and fans are now asking for it. SNW has become the flagship show of the brand. The more they try to bring in a mass audience, they need to just realize that’s riskier, they should just go for the fanbase. Don’t buy into the idea that they Aren’t attracting new fans.. they are. It’s just not translating to a bigger demographic, and I don’t see how it ever will. To me, the idea of pushing Trek to a wider audience has been tested and hasn’t worked. Keep it the niche product it is, and just focus on keeping the fan base it has happy and at the table. Less shows, more quality.

Agree with all of this. Yes the shows get some new fans but not on a massive or a younger level and that’s probably why there is a down turn in the number of shows being made. It’s no longer the 90s and now Trek is behind a pay wall. It’s not going to attract a large number of new people when the brand has always been more ;niche’ overall. They ran into that very problem with the Kelvin movies.

I get they want the IP to grow and expand to, sorry, the next generation of Trek fans. I want that too. But it’s been six years and 5 shows since Discovery and there are still people out there that has never heard of them, especially under a certain age. I don’t know what it is, but Trek just seems to attract mostly older people no matter how much they try with things like the Kelvin movies, Lower Decks, Prodigy, etc.

And while I support SFA, I don’t think it’s going to really move the needle on that level. It’s probably just going to be mostly people from sites like this watching it. I hope to be proven wrong but I wasn’t with Prodigy.

Not everybody wants a legacy show…..

Not everyone wanted Discovery either and we still got that. 🙄

I was fine with Discovery until I watched a few episodes ;)

I was disgruntled with it even pre-airing, but then my gruntlitude hit new levels once I saw some shows.

This must be my month for new words. In addition to gruntiltude, I also came up with ‘aclench’ — which I think might be a poetic way of describing musculature in the nether regions.

And that’s ok.

Some people are in the mood for a show with new characters in a new setting. I bring this up for folks who keep saying no one asked for “fill in the blank”.

This is what I’ve been saying for months, each time people have complained about a lack of updates about LEGACY. You can’t have updates about a show that isn’t even on the table and never was.

Exactly. And it’s time to drop the topic now…it’s getting tiresome.

I don’t expect it to go away. Folks can chatter away about what they think people “really” want all day, but for the majority of fans, nothing really exists until they see a trailer for it.

Right now, it is not a priority for them. Yes, it is a good idea and lots of people want it, judging from the petition. But their priority is SNW and Lower Decks. The news shows that they will have their priority is the Academy series and the TV movie. I think that if The Section 31 movie proves to be a hit, then they will look into other TV movies. And I firmly believe that the “Legacy” idea will come to fruition as just that. A TV movie. They have cancelled Discovery and got rid of Prodigy, so they are definitely cutting huge costs. I do not think the SMW will go 7 seasons. I think they will wrap it at 5 like they did with Discovery. Short series and TV movies will probably the way they will go and having only 1 or 2 series in production at a time.

it’s not in development and it’s not in any way moving forward

Yep. My recommendation is that we all drop this now and move onto to tracking and getting excited about the Academy, S31 Movie, final DSC Season and upcoming SNW S3.

Too much time is being spent by fans and Trek web sites pontificating on a series that is obviously never going to happen.

The fact that those four Star Trek productions are coming makes me even wish more for a Legacy show.

That guy is so insufferable.🙄

MY recommendation is we keep fighting for the Legacy show as long as it takes. That’s what Star Trek fandom does over and over again.

Don’t listen to some guy who say to move on just because he doesn’t want it.

And I don’t really care about any of those except SNW. The rest is just a big shrug.

Not following?

Exactly. What is insufferable are the hangers on who keep dangling this Legacy series BS and everyone’s face when it’s obviously not going to happen.

Feel free. It will fall on deaf ears, though. This just isn’t in the cards and never was.

Do people not read my posts lol. I made it completely clear I don’t think it’s happening. I have said over and over, Paramount doesn’t have the money or probably doesn’t have the motivation to make more than 2 or 3 Trek shows a year because they don’t produce enough. I been saying this for months now. I spelled this out in my OP here. Read it please.

But that doesn’t mean it will never happen either lol. Those are two different things. There are people who still pining for more JJ verse movies and the last one happened 8 years ago lol.

I know, because Paramount keeps trolling and saying it will happen gives them hope. But they haven’t, right? And maybe it will or maybe it won’t. No one really knows until they make it, but there it is

Same for any future Trek show. So as long as they make more shows then fans should keep pressing for the ones want to see. Picard season 3 ended ten months ago, it doesn’t have to get picked up tomorrow. 😉

Exactly! What is insufferable is fans who keep dragging us on when it’s obviously dead.

Neither was SNW…until it was. This is such an odd argument on a Star Trek board out of all places.

Two words: Bjo Trimble.

Be sure and keep everyone posted on how charging the castle goes….good luck.

You mean posting and campaigning what Star Trek you want to see on the Internet? That’s only been happening since the invention of the Internet lol.

Fans have convinced TPTB of things constantly from making the Klingons look like Klingons again after the Orcs, making post Nemesis shows, to getting SNW. That’s kinda of what fans do.

I know how cynical you are with literally everything but not everyone is you.

They never looked like orcs, they looked like Klingons with shaved heads.

Lol, just awesome! :-))

Phil I love you man but this is ridiculous lol. First off, I think people only go to this board for Star Trek info, but the Legacy show is discussed everywhere daily. Go to Reddit, Facebook, Youtube, any social media it’s discussed constantly JUST like SNW was discussed constantly.

Again, I agree, I don’t think a show is happening anytime soon, but that’s not the same thing as never happening. So to try and say people shouldn’t be talking about it is ridiculous. A. It’s discussed all the time online and it’s not going away. TM is a tiny board. And B. I was the one saying I don’t think SNW would ever get the greenlight….until it did. Again, people can try and rewrite history but that show was never on the docket until fans pushed for it.

Maybe this won’t happen, but it’s a message board. That won’t change either. Until Paramount said they won’t or can’t make it, people will push for it. That’s how fandom for 50+ years now.

It’s hilarious man. It’s what, like 20 people on this site regularly on a good day and who sound like they are all over 50 and has never been on social media before. 😂

It’s talked about everywhere on Twitter, Facebook, etc. I’m part of a big Trek private group on Facebook, over 100 members and we talk about it at least a few times a month.And it doesn’t mean everyone wants it or think it will it happen either. But we still talk about it because we’re Star Trek fans and we like to discuss the possibilities either way. Yeah the nerve of Star Trek fans talking about things we like to see in Star Trek. What has gotten over us? 🙄

I was part of a Voyager season 8 speculation group for years and I’m pretty certain that’s not going to happen either. 😂😥

But certain ‘people’ here who just never wanted this show and now literally trying to censor others from just discussing it. It’s laughable and eye rolling. And gatekeeping as well. And they wonder why people don’t like them? It’s not hard to figure out why.

Maybe do THIS instead: If you don’t want to listen to people taking on about even the possibility of this show ..then those people should simply S-T-O-P clicking on any articles relating to it. They can instead discuss for the thousandth time about another movie that is really really going to happen this year instead. That’s been working wonders for eight years now. Talk about delusional lol.

And telling people to stop talking about something only does the opposite. It’s funny how people never get this online.

Also notice he didn’t ‘recommend’ anyone to be excited about Lower Decks or Prodigy? Gee I wonder why? Are those not Star Trek shows that also have new episodes coming out soon? Why leave those out?

Especially when both of those shows are easily twice as popular as Discovery is here! 😂

Maybe guy should STOP telling people what they should be ‘rooting’ for since it’s only the stuff he happens to like lol. Eye rolling beyond belief.

Maybe we can all just agree different fans like different things and be adults about it.

You would think. But here we are.

Some just aren’t willing to do that

Considering the situation over at Paramount right now, and the general tightening of belts, I suspect this lovely new modern age of Trek is rapidly coming to an end. I certainly hope not, but… eeh, it’s in the air.

It’s certainly not going to be the next Berman era. I t will probably go a few more years but I don’t think that long the way things are going.

Star Trek is a valuable enough IP. It will go somewhere. It survived UPN, it can survive whatever fate Paramount Plus has coming.

It’s always been a chaotic business.

There is no actual pause here. It’s a fan made up situation. This is going to to end up being like the Berman era on steroids

Picard Season 3 ended just as Paramount+ greenlit two new Star Trek projects and Season 3 of SNW, which was then followed by corporate upheaval and spending cuts. So I don’t think the opportunity was ever really there to green light yet another project, and there probably won’t be that opportunity for years. Keep in mind all of the “Legacy” creators and actors are based in LA and are expensive even WITH the special tax dispensation they were awarded for Picard. I could also see producers being skeptical with the setup or premise of Legacy, a show specifically geared toward fans rather than reaching a broader audience.

Nobody wants to hear someone making sense here like that… lol

Haven’t you heard — Paramount is broke and they can’t afford Legacy…lol

there are a lot of balls up in the air right now with the paramount sale….and i think future ST movies and tv shows not already in production are pending that deal to get done. when that sale is done and the future of paramount + is determined i would assume the new owner would want some layup wins in tv and movies w/ their existing IPs, ie ST. so STL could be an easy win under new ownership. i’d be happy with Terry Matalas as showrunner for any kind of ST show, whether it be STL, or something else. we never got to see the post ST6 pre TNG era, and that would be fun to explore. but i do not imagine they would do more then 2 live action shows at once. it always struck me odd the news of starfleet academy was during the big lovefest of PIC season 3. it was like they were trying to take the air out of the excitement over that show because it didn’t fit into their plans. i’m still holding out hope starfleet academy is canceled or at least retooled to not be in the DSC era.

After seeing S3 of Picard, I’m dubious that we need an extension of that. How about just keeping the best elements: Terry Matalas, who can handle a full serialized season (a unique talent in Star Trek now); Seven; and Worf.

Build something new around those elements. Let’s visit post-Dominion-War Cardassia.

To be fair, it’s a *very* nice idea.

Is it though? Are you that desperate to see the adventures of Sidney LaForge and co? Or is it just because you want that extra dose of nostalgia/legacy characters whilst adding absolutely nothing to the franchise?

Nobody is expecting Sidney to be the star of any proposed spin offs. And you know it. Stop trolling.

My point is why are people so excited about “Legacy”? Is it just because of Captain Seven and the promise of legacy of characters showing up? So basically just more nostalgia?

If a Captain Seven show with guest stars doesn’t appeal to you, fine. If that’s you’re point, then say that. But other people feel differently. Liking nostalgia isn’t a crime.

You’re so cartoonish its impossible to take you seriously. You’re beefing with a tv show that doesn’t even exist.

It’s not wrong to like nostalgia, that’s all Trek is these days. What is wrong is dismissing a show doing something NEW (Starfleet Academy) and demanding Trek be safe, predictable and narrow like Legacy instead.

I will say people who don’t like the idea of SFA probably has to do more about it being a Discovery spin off or just hate the idea of a teen focused show. And those are valid reasons not to like it.

I think people have no problem of wanting new characters, but it’s the premise itself that seems to put people off.

But FYI, DS9 literally had the same problem when it was announced and hated the space station idea (“But Star Trek is about boldly going!!!!!”). But people eventually came around because it was good. But that also took a loooong time for some too. If this show is good, people will get over it.

I’ve given up on Legacy. For me, S3 Picard was the coda for the STU. I’ll finish Prodigy and LDS, (Jack Quaid and Eugene Cordero are too hilarious to give up) but the rest is Star Trek in name only.

Agreed. I am also an old-ish scientist.

I am happy to cancel Paramount + for now. I own Picard Season 3 on Blu Ray, so I can just re-watch that and other Star Trek on Pluto. Also, Prodigy is on Netflix. I’m good.

I’m pretty much in the same boat. If it wasn’t for so much else I watch on P+ – the Sheridan productions, old Twilight Zones, a good film library, I would drop it too. I just watched TOS’ ‘Omega Glory’ on Pluto last night, that channel does Trek justice.

I feel the way you do although I really do like SNW too. But it’s nowhere near the level of what Picard season 3 was for me. I love the animated shows too, especially LDS, but it will never be as great as a post Nemesis live action show.

But for now both LDS and Prodigy are my go to shows and the most important to me.

I appreciate Dave’s truthfulness, but I am bummed about this news. I do not want a Section 31 movie, Starfleet Academy show, or Disco S5. I am looking forward to new Prodigy and Lower Decks. I am kind of “meh” about SNW S3.

I really just wanted that Legacy show with Captain 7 of 9 and Jack Crusher on the Enterprise-G.

BTW: I would have LOVED a practical engineering set similar to Voyager/First Contact! Dave Blass really teased that on us tech-heads! I have my Playmates Engineering set in my office and and really sad we won’t get to see a new one like this! The SNW engineering set looks awful.

I’ll gladly watch a Captain 7 of 9 show, but only if Wesley picks up his half-brother to go have adventures off camera. Sorry but he was just annoying in Picard S3.

The engine rooms in the shows have always been my favorite sets. TMP engine room was my favorite, followed by Voyager’s. It would be nice to see those sets return to the new shows.

I wouldn’t be surprised any future Trek series that takes place in the early 25th immediately following PIC S3 will be animated instead of live-action and probably a spinoff of Lower Decks and not PIC, with a crew on a Starfleet ship that isn’t on the Enterprise-G.

I, like some others here believe Secret Hideout hit its apex with PIC S3. DSC ceased to exist for me back in S2, I’m having trouble warming to LDS, and SNW, while decent,, threw canon (and the prime timeline) to the dogs and already or will recast the entire TOS crew, which to me is not necessary. PRO is very good Trek, imo, and I’ll keep following that on Netflix. Sec. 31 looks mildly interesting, Academy not at all, and it doesn’t look like a Legacy production is in the cards, at least for now. So, not too enthused about the future of our favorite franchise at the moment. Hoping that will change.

I feel you brother…I feel you!

Hopefully something will change but I think Paramount only has so much money for Star Trek these days. I think a Legacy show would be way more popular than the CW Academy show most fans don’t seem to be begging for but it’s probably Kurtzmans baby that he’s been trying to get going since 2018.

And it’s probably cheaper to make too. 😐

So Paramount is deep into production on things that fans have very loudly said that they have no interest in. Yet the concept that fans are clamoring for is ignored…

Just shows how tone deaf Hollywood is at times.

There was a time no one was asking for a French captain 100 years after the original series. Don’t read too much into gatekeeping online chatter.

Oh remember the TNG protest. 🪧

I’m old enough to remember TNG getting booed at conventions.

You guys don’t speak for the fans.

It’s remarkable how Paramount manages this franchise. They cannot get a new movie done since 2016. If they start working on one now, 2026 may be a realistic release date. They develop an academy show in the Discovery time line that nobody asked for. They had great buzz with the next Next Generation, but that remains an idea. Every streamer would take that show as long as the price tag stays reasonable. Paramount is leaving money on the table left and right. But gee… I wonder why it isn’t doing so well right now.

“ They develop an academy show in the Discovery time line that nobody asked for.”

“Who asked for Andor?”

No one specifically asked for TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise either.

That line is getting so old. Folks minds are too closed. I’m all for nostalgia based projects, but they have to create some new characters from time to time.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t do it. But it looks to me like they’re not exactly picking up on the opportunities they are given. It’s hard to create buzz and attention. For the movies and for Legacy they have buzz and attention. And they just sit on it. You think the Academy show has potential? Fine do it and make it awesome. But passing up on a timely movie or a show that is already asked for is a wasted opportunity. And for a company that has been struggling, I find this astonishing.

There’s also budget issues. I love legacy characters to pieces, but they carry a heavier price tag. There’s a reason Berman couldn’t get Nimoy back.

That’s ultimately part of the problem, the cost. Matalas said how thin the budget for season 3 was because they had to pay all the legacy actors to be there.

Another reason why Legacy wouldn’t have them all back. But it still would be a costly show. I really want Legacy but I’m realist too. If they just can’t afford to do it, they can’t do it. Yeah it sucks but nothing we can do. And Paramount is hurting.

That’s the thing. This hypothetical Legacy show can’t bring back all of the TNG cast again. It almost certainly can’t bring back Stewart, the biggest name in the cast. The selling point gets a bit muddy without the full set.

Or they just do a Seven/Raffi/Jack show…. and I’d watch but basically that’s Star Trek: Picard minus Picard.

Probably best to let it drop. It will only frustrate people more.

All I want is Seven! 😁

I wanted her own spin off show the second she showed in the Picard trailer. A lot of fans in fact.

Anyone else who shows up would just be a bonus.

And I think for Matalas the only people who are guaranteed to be in the show are the people who warped out on the Enterprise G with Seven and Raffi. So I’m not sure why people keep thinking it would be another TNG show?

Again Matalas stated multiple times the spin off would be about the next next generation. I don’t know how many times he said it. He made it clear the show isn’t about Picard and Data, but about the generation after them who we saw on the Titan. Seven is literally the only legacy character confirmed for the show (and a non-TNG character at that). That’s why she was Captain of the Enterpise and not Worf or Riker. I don’t think Geordi will be the Chief Engineer or Crusher the doctor on the ship lol. I’m pretty sure everyone who wants the show understands that.

Again, just frustrating to have these same discussions over and over again. And if people don’t like that idea either, that’s fine but at least understand the argument. It was never meant to bring back the TNG cast.

But, if you’re a fan of his, look how fast Taylor Sheridan’s productions are produced on P+. 1883, 1923, Tulsa King, Special Ops: Lioness, Bass Reeves, the Willie Nelson documentary, etc. All made by him, all put out by P+. THAT’S where the money is going. And rightfully so, imo. I’ve enjoyed almost all of the above more than Kurtzman and Co. have given us. Anyone who thinks Trek is the priority of P+ is dreaming, in my view.

You’re probably right as ST is sci-fi and sci-fi is a niche. That’s even true for the movies where so many other franchises outnumber ST. They probably face the challenge to produce a mass-appealing movie and not look cheap. That’s probably a tall order.

In regard to TV/Legacy, nobody is expecting all expensive stars to show up. Jeri Ryan is probably asking for a good chunk (as she should). Michelle Hurd can probably not ask for as much. Her character wouldn’t be that vital to the show. The rest should be happy to join the show for (almost) free.

This is a lot content that people watch, produced in a cost effective fashion. Sci-fi costs a ton, particularly so if it’s FX heavy. I generally enjoyed the Kelvin era movies, and acknowledge that they could have scrubbed a lot of the FX without it effecting the final product. If they had bought those productions in for 120MM instead of ticking 200MM, we’d of had more Trek movies by now.

If they made Beyond for $120 million and not the ridiculous $180 million we probably would’ve got another movie back in 2019 or 2020 the latest.

But they were trying to compete with Marvel, a franchise that most teenagers have no interest in and it bit them in the butt by the end.

Now since that bombed it stagnated the movies for 8 years now without a single movie since and still no telling when another will actually get made.

Now they are probably trying to make a much cheaper one with that prequel one or whatever but they don’t seem confident any ideas they had will make a profit or they would’ve made one by now.

Marvel has made 12 freaking movies since 2016 lol. That’s ridiculous on one level but that shows real confidence in their brand. Even if their movies are doing poorly now, every one thinks they can still make billion dollar movies if they are good. Everyone seems really excited about Deadpool 3.

Trek can’t even muster half that and why it’s a better idea to just stick to streaming movies for awhile instead of wasting serious money.l they don’t have.

Exactly my friend!

That’s what I said here too and for some reason it was completely ignored. 😂🙄

It’s not that Paramount don’t have the money to make more Trek shows they probably just don’t see them as valuable like the Sheridan shows and where the money is going now. You now have six Sheridan shows on that site and the first one just premiered a few years ago. And I read he already has three more shows in the works.

If Star Trek was performing like those shows then we would have the Legacy show and probably a few more in development besides SFA.

Right now the ONLY shows that are currently active are Lower Decks and SNW. That’s pretty low considering how many shows were around just two years ago. S 31 is now a movie but my guess because Paramount just didn’t want another show since it too was supposed to be one.

Trek is simply no longer the leading franchise on that site anymore and that’s the real issue among others.

Nobody wants Star Trek: the last of the summer wine. Aka legacy old folks home

Nobody wants Legacy characters. But also Nobody wants something new and unfamiliar like Star Trek Academy.

Apparently Mr Nobody just sits around wanting all day and speaking for everyone.

I asked for Academy. 5 years ago. I also asked for a S31 show back when they showed up on DS9.

I’m nobody

Everyone wants Legacy. No one wants Section 31 or Academy.

Sure kid. Next time come up with an original comment post.

Neither of those sentences is remotely true. You speak only for yourself. You are not the barometer of fandom.

Who “wanted” Star Wars Andor?

People ‘want’ legacy characters, nostalgia, fan service, easter eggs and references, and not much else, that’s why Picard S3 was so popular, because that’s all it offered.

Thankfully, there are still some writers and show-runners who like to actually push a franchise forward and give us NEW characters and NEW settings without relying on the easy crutch of nostalgia like Matalas did.

You just keep telling yourself that….

I’ll only speak for myself and I definitely want Legacy! 😎

Don’t care about S 31 or Academy but will stay open minded to both.

“But right now, it’s not remotely a thing. It’s not happening unless something massive happens. Paramount is deep into production on Section 31 and Starfleet Academy.””

This is more or less what I expected. With the budget cuts that were announced before the strike(s), they only have so much money they can spend. S31 was greenlit before Picard S3 started airing IIRC, and I THINK Academy was greenlit some time during PIC S3. The idea of Legacy didn’t become a thing until Last Generation premiered. Once S31 is done, then MAYBE we’ll hear something about Legacy.

Exactly. That’s the problem. So I get it. Don’t like it lol but it is what it is…for now. 😉

We won’t get Legacy because Starfleet Academy is going to flop hard. I detect little enthusiasm for it.

As for The Chronicles of Space Hitler, I can think of nothing less Star Trek than that. I expect this will fail too.

Make something about exploration, and include some actual science and believability.

But we don’t know how well Academy or the S 31 movie will do. Yes I do agree, both are divisive but that doesn’t mean even the people who don’t like the idea won’t watch them. ;)

I think the S 31 will get eyeballs because it’s a 2 hour streaming movie and if you already have Paramount+ to keep up with your TOS or Voyager rewatches you will probably turn it on just out of curiosity. With the Academy show, it will get eyeballs in the beginning at least. But if it does end up being a teen version of Discovery with antsy teens and lots of melodrama, it could drop off quickly. But we’ll have to see first.

But I remember people predicting Lower Decks was going to crash and burn quickly just based on its premise alone and it’s now entering its fifth season and as popular as ever. Just sayin!

You do realize that faster than light travel is pure fiction, and a quantum entanglement transporter is a murder machine. Right?

Seriously Phil….

Sorry my ignorance who is Space Hitler?

That’s just stupid. You put into production things that people don’t really care for and the ones they do want you are not even considering? Then you cancel them because of low viewership. If they want something that people will watch maybe they should listen to what people want.

Nothing that was stated surprised me in the least and yet I’m still 100% confident we will get the Legacy show! :)

Now, per usual I have to paraphrase this by saying that I don’t see it happening for at least several years given everything lol. But I have taken a very zen like approach to the whole thing at this point and feel that things need to find its rhythm with the future of Trek in general. And that means we have wait to see what happens with the other shows in the next year or two. For people who want this tomorrow, yeah that’s not going to happen obviously, but it would be ridiculous to say given Trek’s crazy history it won’t happen at all either.

Now, AGAIN, yes it may not ever happen , obviously. But this is my take, if fans don’t keep pounding the pavement, shouting to the roof tops (or just typing online about it lol) or making clear how much they really want this to happen, then it won’t happen. ;)

So just have to keep up the fight and see how things sort themselves out in the next year or so! Maybe it won’t happen with Matalas himself but we can keep his dream alive!

And I have to stress, per usual, I am looking forward to the Academy show too. It’s not an either/or situation with me. I’ll happily take both!

“Now, AGAIN, yes it may not ever happen, obviously. But this is my take, if fans don’t keep pounding the pavement, shouting to the roof tops (or just typing online about it lol) or making clear how much they really want this to happen, then it won’t happen.”

Wow, sound advice! 😎🖖

LOL, thanks!

Again I have to state that everyone could be right and a show will never happen. But with that attitude TOS wouldn’t have come back after nearly being cancelled the first season. And I alwasy said Kurtzman listens to the fans. Its why we have SNW today lol. Again people can try and rewrite history, but SNW was never in the cards until after Discovery season 2 aired and fans pleaded for it. So yeah . But this why message boards are frustrating at times and why I’m writing less on them these days including here.

But yes, Paramount is in a different place right now and scaling back on a lot of things, Star Trek included. So that has to be taken into account.

But it doesn’t mean it will stay that way in the future either. Everything is always up and down in this franchise.

Hurd is an actor – actors want to work and sometimes ask fans to help them get work [see: Captain Sulu, Captain Worf].

So, until she’s cast in something, I doubt she knows anything about future productions.

I’d trust the word of folks behind the scenes, who all say there is no Legacy.

Is there anybody here that wants Starfleet Academy? I know I don’t. Here, you have fans clamoring for Legacy. They already have a great concept and Terry Matsalas as showrunner and they’re going on with Academy? Why do that? Is this Kurtzmann’s idea and that’s why he wants it done, so he gets a bigger cut and doesn’t have to share the royalties or whatever?

I just think Legacy is a no-brainer. What’s the difference between that and Strange New Worlds?

I’ve got 0 interest in the Academy idea. I want Legacy.

Might be fun if they stay positive. No cliques, cabals or rogue students. I want idealists facing adversity, with lots of interpersonal stories and sex please. Not really interested in Section 31 either. I’ve more than enough dystopian Trek to last a lifetime, thank you.

“Is there anybody here that wants Starfleet Academy?”

Several of us keep saying yes, over and over again, but apparently folks have selective hearing.

Yeah I agree with this lol. I’m pretty sure I’ve said about 50 times I want the Academy show. I’m sure I seen other posts stating the same thing since it’s been announced. Or maybe I’m just dreaming those.

Man, we fans can sure get entitled (especially after a whole season of fan service). .

There is no Legacy. And nobody here has seen Starfleet Academy, so we don’t know whether it will be good.

As has been mentioned here by others, there have been all sorts of shows where, hearing the concept, I had zero interest — then when I finally watched them, I was hooked (ex Andor, Watchmen).

Indeed I’ll take Star Trek Legacy over any other new show

Picture Karnak holding the envelope up to his turban.”Deny, never gonna happen, would be nice but….Exciting news! Star Trek “Legacy” announced and it will be named Legacy.” Karnak opens the envelope… “What is getting really old?

Who is Karnak?

Carnac the magnificent. Old Johnny Carson bit.

Know the show but never seen it.

Star Trek is expensive to make. Once PIC S3 was successful? The actors’ representation (most likely) would try to capitalize on that. The BTS creatives would be recruited to work on other productions. IMO, PIC S3 worked because we knew it was most likely the final time we would see them all. After that? It would have been hard to maintain the momentum. You can only milk nostalgia for so long. Don’t get me wrong. I’d LOVE to see Legacy or a similar show produced as a series or a mini-series. While I’m thinking about it? I’d pay $25-$50 monthly for a Trek + streaming service, provided we got weekly new episodes or content. It’d never happen, though. We all would whine and nitpick about it while we spent more than $25.00 a month on Doritos and soda…

Just remember, The Internet told us at one point that Discovery was going to be shelved BEFORE it was supposed to air.

Yeah, just a cool idea that ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE WANTS!!!

Personally I’d much rather see LEGACY than either Section 31 OR Starfleet Academy and I think it would be a much smarter move especially if they’re tied to Discovery.

Star Trek: Picard's Potential Legacy Spinoff Gets Promising Update From Series Star

Star Trek: Picard star Michelle Hurd shares the latest update on the potential spinoff series, dubbed Star Trek: Legacy.

While an official announcement has yet to be made, Star Trek: Picard could still end up getting its spinoff.

Following the end of Star Trek: Picard , both fans and cast members have teased a desire to see a spinoff, dubbed Star Trek: Legacy , come to fruition. Now, in a new interview with TV Insider , Picard star Michelle Hurd shared an update on the possible spinoff, teasing how there's a good chance that it will be made, albeit not in the immediate future. Hurd, who played Raffi Musiker in all three seasons of Picard , suggested that Legacy will happen as long as there is still interest with fans after two other Star Trek projects are first developed.

Zoe Saldaña Is Open to Returning for 'One Last' Star Trek Movie

“ I love Raffi. She’s my favorite character ,” Hurd explained. “ We have hands, fingers, everything’s crossed for Star Trek: Legacy . I know that right now they’re working on Section 31 for Michelle Yeoh. And then they’re going to do Starfleet Academy . That’s going to be a series. And then if the fans still want it, they’ll start working on Star Trek: Legacy .”

Section 31 Is Moving Forward

The Section 31 movie Hurd mentioned was officially announced in 2023. Originally planned to be a series, the project is now moving forward as a feature film in the works for a Paramount+ release. The film will bring back Oscar winner Michelle Yeoh as Captain Philippa Georgiou, the character she played in Star Trek: Discovery . It was recently reported that filming is expected to start imminently . On a possible meeting with Yeoh in the Star Trek universe, Hurd added, "Wouldn’t that be phenomenal? I need to make a phone call.”

Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 Will Be 'Pure Adventure,' Teases Star

It was also announced in 2023 that a new Star Trek series was in the works. As Hurd noted, it's called Starfleet Academy , and the show will follow a new class of Starfleet cadets. When the project was announced, it was reported that production would begin in 2024. There haven't been many major updates on the series since, but a press release for the show from Paramount teased that the company is "excited to introduce Star Trek fans to a whole new generation of Starfleet officers in training as they navigate the rigors of the Academy and the brink of adulthood in Star Trek: Starfleet Academy ."

All three seasons of Star Trek: Picard are streaming on Paramount+. Release dates haven't yet been announced for Star Trek: Section 31 and Star Trek: Starfleet Academy .

Source: TV Insider

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Picard Season 3’s Big Titan Twist Just Set Up Star Trek: Legacy

As it nears its series finale, Picard is setting up Star Trek's future for a possible spin-off series about Seven of Nine and the USS TItan.

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“I have been, and always shall be… an asshole.”

No, those weren’t the last words of Captain Liam Shaw, so sadly cut down at the height of his popularity in the penultimate episode of Star Trek: Picard ‘s third season. In his last moments, Shaw does something much more satisfying, on a personal and TV show level, by turning command of the USS Titan over to Seven of Nine — using her true name, not Annika Hansen.

Seven’s eventual captaincy has been a frequent point of speculation since the season began with the one-time Borg back in Starfleet. Previous seasons of Picard had presented Seven as a member of the Fenris Rangers, a non-Federation-sanctioned vigilante group devoted to protecting the innocent and avenging wrongs. When that duty drove Seven to dual-wield phasers to gun down the criminal Bjayzl and her associates for the brutal murder of Icheb, most assumed that she had left behind the ideals she learned under Captain Janeway on the Voyager .

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But season three of Picard has put Seven firmly back on the command path, and not just by sticking a red uniform on her. Leaving aside her unlikely promotion from renegade to Commanding Officer of a significant ship (someplace, Harry Kim sadly plays his clarinet), Seven has shown all of the hallmarks of a Star Trek captain: she knows the regulations, but has no problem discarding those rules in the right situation.

On social media, Picard showrunner Terry Matalas has been very open about calling for a continuation of the series called Star Trek: Legacy (while also being clear that no such show is in production). Although this show would continue the adventures of Riker’s old ship the USS Titan — presumably with Lt. Mura, Ensign Kova Esmar, and other bridge crew personnel we’ve met this season — the subtitle Legacy suggests that it will also bring back legacy characters.

In case you're wondering, #StarTrekLegacy is what I'd call a spin-off show from #StarTrekPicard . A 25th Century show that explores the Last Generation and the Next… https://t.co/mwuniLmThk — Terry Matalas (@TerryMatalas) March 22, 2023

That would be very much in line with the current slate of Trek shows, which love to reach back to classic series. In addition to the recast characters in Strange New Worlds and Discovery , we’ve seen Janeway and Chakotay play important roles in Prodigy , and Deep Space Nine ‘s Kira and Quark show up in Lower Decks , along with Voyager ‘s Tom Paris. These shows have even been willing to pull unlikely characters back into the mix, from Strange New Worlds giving Dr. M’Benga a lead role to Lower Decks catching up with Sonya Gamez, and the surprising returns of Ro Laren and Elizabeth Shelby in Picard .

With Seven of Nine at the conn of the Titan, Star Trek: Legacy can do what Matalas promised in his tweet proposing the series –exploring the last generation and the next during the 25th century. This allows the series to more fully mine the space between the end of Star Trek: Nemesis and Discovery ‘s present in the 32nd century, a period that was largely ignored in film and television until recently.

“But I don’t care about that!” you might be saying. “I only want Star Trek: Legacy if I can get Captain Shaw!” You’re not alone. In just a few short episodes, Captain Liam Shaw grouched his way into the hearts of Trekkers by bullying our heroes in their old age. With his attention to protocol and impatience with Picard and Riker’s derring-do, Shaw has established himself as an interesting character; a compelling counterpart to the gleeful rule-breaking we see among most Starfleet captains. And then he died.

But that’s not really a problem, is it? As Picard itself has acknowledged, Picard and Data have both died before and yet they’re still shuffling around the bridge. Even more significant was the death of Spock at the end of Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan , something the then-reluctant Leonard Nimoy requested. But after the success of Wrath of Khan and the opportunity to direct presented themselves, Nimoy came back for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock .

Of course, those movies had a handy regeneration tool in the form of the Genesis Device, ready to help Spock come back to life… the same type of Genesis Device that we saw on Daystrom Station in the recent Picard episode “The Bounty”. Which means that Star Trek: Legacy season one could be “The Search for Shaw”, right?

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Well, maybe! According to Matalas, your Shaw wishes will be granted somehow should Legacy indeed go ahead. “There is currently no Star Trek: Legacy in development at Paramount+,” he told Collider . “But from the very beginning of this season, there has always been a plan for [Shaw] to be part of the spin-off, and it is absolutely amazing how. And should we be so lucky to ever have a discussion, it would be very cool, and Todd Stashwick would absolutely be a part of it.”

Make it so!

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Last week, Star Trek: Picard showrunner Terry Matalas tweeted about his idea for a spinoff show called Star Trek: Legacy. The theoretical series would be set in the 25th century and focus on both old favorites and the next generation . It can be very hard to tell what’s successful these days because streaming numbers are opaque. But if internet chatter and critic reviews are any indication, Paramount Plus has a bona fide hit on its hands with Star Trek: Picard ’s third season.

From the moment this season was announced, the cast, and Matalas himself, has been asking people to watch the show , making it clear that the numbers matter if we want to see more of our favorite kind of Trek. Right now, Paramount Plus has what looks to be the rare show that has critics and viewers happy, one that’s welcoming to new fans but also hits those deep wells of nostalgia. This balance is what we need in the Star Trek franchise. It’s good for viewers, it’s good for the network, and it grounds the “next generation” of shows with something tied into the overarching mythology of a time period that people feel nostalgic about and want to see more of. It’s the rare marriage of giving the fans what they want and good business.

The question is, then, why hasn’t it been greenlit already? The stars of the show are even on board .

There are a few possible answers: The unexpected cancellation of Star Trek: Discovery has sparked discussions of possible cost-cutting at Paramount. We also know there are new shows on the horizon: A long-discussed Starfleet Academy show , a will-it-ever-happen Michelle Yeoh-fronted Section 31 show , and more are supposedly in the works. These will likely be announced sooner rather than later, as Star Trek: Picard is ending with season 3.

It’s clear that Star Trek is here to stay, in whatever form (and to be clear: It’s all Star Trek, even if you don’t especially like it). But with rumored and oft-speculated announcements come questions about what the future of the franchise might be. Will it be in the past, like with Star Trek: Strange New Worlds ? Will it be in Star Trek: Discovery ’s future ? Or will it be in what many people consider the “present,” the 25th century?

Part of the tension in any long-running franchise is how to satisfy longtime fans while also being welcoming of new viewers. (Star Wars is also clearly grappling with this, telling a key part of The Mandalorian ’s story from this season in another show altogether .) Under Alex Kurtzman’s watchful eye, the Star Trek franchise has balanced this incredibly well so far. Star Trek: Discovery charted its own course, while Strange New Worlds has balanced canon and creative storytelling beautifully. The animated shows, Lower Decks and Prodigy , build on what came before while also not being afraid to deliver their own unique narratives. Each of these shows has a different relationship with the overall Star Trek lore, which is a good thing: Canon should be flexible to allow for creativity.

Within this umbrella, though, there’s room for a show that caters to longtime fans to replace Star Trek: Picard . I’m not talking about the fringes of the fandom irate about inclusivity and representation in shows like Discovery . I’m talking about the people who grew up on ’90s Trek who want to see their favorites (and their favorites’ kids!) on the bridge of a starship. It seems as though there’s a reluctance to exist too long within that “present.” Maybe, to those in charge, it feels as though we’ve spent too much time here because of 1990s Trek, but I’d argue that whether you’ve spent a lot of your life watching the franchise or are relatively new to it, the 25th century has a special place in your heart.

It doesn’t have to be strictly nostalgia for a legacy series to work, either. Terry Matalas has shown with this third season of Star Trek: Picard that he can balance fan service with genuinely good, creative storytelling that adds dimension to characters we’ve known all our lives. These don’t have to be mutually exclusive, and in fact, this kind of show can be brilliantly good.

Let’s get Star Trek: Legacy on our streaming devices already!

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During a recent panel at Galaxy Con (via Trek Movie ), Star Trek: Picard showrunner Terry Matalas described his idea for a new series focusing on the further adventures of Captain Liam Shaw.

Look, I love this time period in Star Trek, the 25th century. I always view it as the present day in Star Trek, for me. It’s where we all left off. And the way we leave this season is a passing of the torch from the last generation to the next… I would certainly love [the spin-off] to happen. We certainly leave it so that you can do that.

Boy, wouldn’t you want to check in with the Klingon Empire? Wouldn’t you want to check in with Deep Space Nine and The Doctor [from Voyager ] and everything that went on with the Berman-verse? So that’s kind of where I see is to explore the galaxy and sort of get back to the Next Gen roots of storytelling is what I would see as a kind of version of Star Trek I’d like to see, with this group of characters that we’re seeing. I don’t want to talk too much about them although I think you could guess as to who I would like to see. And by the way, I think that includes a great deal of some of these legacy characters who I think have never been better, Jonathan Frakes being one of them… I mean come on, guys, he’s amazing!

[Nana Visitor is] so good. I mean, gosh you want to see that. You want to see Nana so bad and what’s going on with her and everyone. That would be phenomenal.

By the same token, Bryan Fuller discussed his plans for a speculative fourth season of Hannibal on a recent episode of The Nerdist podcast (via Comic Book ).

It’s not so much anything has changed in terms of of how I’m imagining it as much as it’s just gotten deeper. There’s something about you know where we left Will and Hannibal at the cliff and this power tenderness and intimacy that they are experiencing in that moment that feels like it’s a launch pad. I don’t think we can pull back, but we have to continue the trajectory and continue that level of intimate exploration between these two men and their queer love story, their queer blurring of identities. And how that would manifest in a narrative that we can track. So it’s not so much an evolution as much as it is an extrapolation of what was kind of intended for or what is intended for season four. If you didn’t like season three you probably won’t like season four but if you like the trajectory you’re going to love where it’s going spending time with it. Thinking about it it does become more intimate and I do see pathways of expressing that intimacy in ways that I think that the Fannibal family will feel validated by and also doesn’t feel like it’s a cheat with the characters.

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Will Fans Get the ‘Star Trek: Picard’ Spinoff They’re Asking For?

While Star Trek: Picard may be over, fans have already started clamoring for a new spinoff in the Star Trek canon: the proposed Star Trek: Legacy series, which not only has a petition lobbying for its creation, but has garnered the vocal support of Trek cast and creatives alike.

He’s dead, Jim: After three seasons of reunions, callbacks, and new adventures for old friends, Star Trek: Picard came to a thrilling conclusion with last week’s series finale. Garnering glowing praise from the likes of Doctor Who showrunner Russell T, Davies , Picard ‘s explosive series finale reignited fan fervor for franchise returnees like Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan), as well as new faces including Jack Crusher (Ed Speelers), Raffi Musiker (Michelle Hurd), and Sidney LaForge (Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut).

But just was is this proposed spinoff about, and is Star Trek: Legacy a fan-made pipe dream or a legit series heading into production?

What is Star Trek: Legacy?

This much-discussed Star Trek: Legacy is a proposed spinoff series that would take place directly after and in correlation with the end of the events of Star Trek: Picard season 3, which saw Seven of Nine inherit command of the USS Titan, with Raffi as first officer, Jack as special counsel, and Sidney at the helm. It’s a pretty cut-and-dried sort of backdoor pilot for a possible spinoff that would follow the crew of the Titan in their ongoing adventures.

The promise of this series is particularly attractive to those with shipping goggles on: If it were to come to fruition, Star Trek: Legacy would be the first series with a (canon) romantic relationship between a captain and first officer—breaking from a longtime Trek tradition. Picard showrunner Terry Matalas has commented on the potential for future exploration of the Raffi/Seven romance in a possible spinoff, emphasizing the opportunity for conflicts of interest on the bridge.

“Imagine a story in which Seven has to make a call that could cost Raffi her life on a planet below … but it’s a call that would save the lives of countless others. Does Seven make the call? Does she step down and go try to save Raffi and transfer command to Jack in the meantime? The whole episode becomes a countdown. I kinda want to write that one right now,” Matalas said in a Reddit AMA .

Raffi/Seven isn’t the only romance on the bridge of the Titan, either—Picard introduced a second (next generation legacy) ship between Sidney, the daughter of Geordi LaForge, and Jack Crusher, the son of Beverly Crusher and Jean-Luc Picard. Though they didn’t end the series with a full-on romance, there was certainly some tension and romantic possibility, even if Jack has a boatload of issues to work through regarding his history with the Borg.

What is the Star Trek: Legacy petition?

A Change.org petition popped up a few months ago asking for a Star Trek: Legacy spinoff to happen, and it’s now close to its 50,000-signature goal. The fan-fueled petition has seen several updates in the time since it was posted, with those behind the petition seemingly confident that such a series is on the horizon, whether or not it takes the exact shape fans currently envision—which would include Picard showrunner Terry Matalas returning for the spinoff, as specified by the petition.

There are plenty of reasons fans are rallying behind this petition and idea. In addition to the existing relationships and Picard characters that would come built-in with the premise of Star Trek: Legacy, the concept is appealing to many fans (including yours truly) for another reason—the possibility of returning characters. Though initially reluctant to bring back too many familiar faces, Picard eventually leaned into the cherished legacy of the Trek franchise, plucking characters like Ro Laren, Tuvok, and the rosters of fan favorites across not just The Next Generation , but Star Trek: Voyager (Seven of Nine’s original show), as well.

With how seamlessly these franchise veterans slot in with a new set of characters, the sky’s the limit when it comes to imagining which franchise legacy characters (hence the apt title, Star Trek: Legacy) might pop up on this proposed spinoff. It’s worth noting that of the three shows that take place along the Next Generation timeline, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is the only series not to have cast members appear on Picard —that is, of course, if you don’t count Worf, who appeared in the later seasons of DS9 but was originally a character on The Next Generation .

Especially considering that Star Trek: Picard sets the stage for changelings lurking out in the universe—a villain that featured prominently on Deep Space Nine —the door seems more open than ever for players like Kira Nerys, Julian Bashir, Ezri Dask, Quark, Jake Sisko, or TNG ‘s Miles O’Brien to pop up on Legacy. With some time travel hijinks ( Trek is no stranger to time travel crossovers, like DS9′ s “Trials and Tribble-ations”), the spinoff could even feature a cameo or two from the cast of Enterprise , which takes place closer in the Trek timeline to Discovery and Strange New Worlds.

Is Star Trek: Legacy Happening?

Fan ideas are one thing, but confirmation from cast and crew about whether or not a series exists is another thing entirely. Unfortunately, as of right now, there aren’t any rock-solid plans for Star Trek: Legacy, nor has the show gone into any kind of official pre-production (to our knowledge). Just because nothing’s moving yet, though, doesn’t mean that conversations aren’t happening: according to a recent interview, Star Trek writer and producerAlex Kurtzman (who has overseen development of every new Trek show since Discovery in some capacity) commented on the murmurs of a Star Trek: Legacy series:

“Anything is possible. We’ve heard the fans loud and clear. There’s obviously more story to tell. So, we’ll see,” Kurtzman told Fox LA

Picard showrunner Terry Matalas has also commented on the prospect of another spinoff, telling Variety , “[Kurtzman] and I talk all the time. If it’s something that’s going to be done, we want to make sure we don’t rush into it. We want to make sure we do it right. That’s where we’re at with it, I say coyly. At the moment, there’s nothing developed on it. But we talk all the time”

From Matalas’ lips to our ears—nothing developed on it. Realistically, that probably means that Star Trek: Legacy is only in the blue sky phase right now, but that certainly doesn’t mean the idea is dead in the water. With the wealth of characters, actors, and beloved stories to pick from, as well as an ever-growing roster of new properties in the Trek franchise, the possibility of Star Trek: Legacy beaming to a streamer near you is never entirely out of the question.

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Jonathan Frakes sees Star Trek: Legacy as a possible Paramount+ movie

S ection 31 starring Michelle Yeoh will be the first Star Trek streaming movie by Paramount+, and, according to Jonathan Frakes , who joined All Access Star Trek podcast to talk about the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network [ via Trekmovie ], there could be possibilities moving forward for other Star Trek series to move into film format, including the potential spin-off to Star Trek: Picard that fans have been hoping for.

“I do know that there’s a lot of positive energy around the Michelle Yeoh Section 31 movie. So that 2-hour format is now on the table for Star Trek going forward.”Jonathan Frakes

If a series isn't a possibility at this point, a two-hour Legacy movie could be a great way to get the show underway. One movie doesn't necessarily mean it will be the only movie. It all depends on the success of the movie and whether the actors would be onboard. For instance, Michelle Yeoh has already confirmed to Variety [ via Comicbook ] that if Section 31 is a success, she'd love to do a sequel.

A Legacy movie is just about guaranteed to be a success. There's no way, with this amount of demand, that it wouldn't be. So this could very well be the way to go to get the spin-off we want. No, it's not a series, but five two-hour movies is one season of a series on streaming nowadays. The only problem is that Paramount+ could possibly only do one movie every two years, and with Section 31 already slated to be its first release (and no set release date at present), a Legacy movie would be a lot further down the road.

Frakes can see things about the franchise that we can't as he's been behind the scenes on almost every series. He know what will work for Trek, and there's no doubt that, with the right producer and director, a Legacy movie would work to satisfy fans...for the time being. But all of the adventures of Captain Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan) and her illustrious crew cannot be told in one movie. Still, this would at least put Legacy in front of fans if a series is out of the question.

This article was originally published on redshirtsalwaysdie.com as Jonathan Frakes sees Star Trek: Legacy as a possible Paramount+ movie .

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Star Trek : Jonathan Frakes über Legacy und miserable Folgen

Wie es für Legacy weitergehen könnte und was Jonathan Frakes über Folgen sagt, die als minderwertiger angesehen werden. Bei TNG sieht er da nur eine.

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Jonathan Frakes ist als Regisseur auch bei den neuen Star-Trek -Serien involviert. Zu sehen war er zuletzt in der dritten Staffel von Star Trek: Picard. Aus dieser heraus würde sich Showrunner Terry Matalas eine Spin-off-Serie namens Star Trek: Legacy wünschen – so wie die Fans auch. Frakes sieht größere Chancen darin, zuerst einen Legacy-Film zu drehen, da Paramount+ mit Section 31 auch experimentiere, wie ein Star-Trek-Film, der exklusiv für den Streamer produziert wurde, ankommt. "Dieses Zwei-Stunden-Format existiert nun" , so Frakes. "Es könnte also weiterhin damit experimentiert werden." Das sagte er im Podcast All Access StarTrek .

Frakes erklärte auch, dass Terry Matalas schon mit ihm darüber gesprochen hat. Wenn aber aus der Idee ein Film würde, so erwarte er nicht, dass er ihn inszeniere. Frakes glaubt, dass Matalas sich selbst als Regisseur anheuern würde – so wie für das Finale der dritten Staffel von Star Trek: Picard. Aber möglicherweise gäbe es eine Rolle für Will Riker.

"Die ist ein Stück Scheiße."

Der Schauspieler wurde auch auf die Einlassungen von Produzent Alex Kurtzman angesprochen, der erklärt hatte, dass man in der Streaming-Ära nur noch Staffeln mit etwa zehn Folgen habe und dafür sorgen müsse, dass jede Geschichte zähle. Im Gegensatz zu früher, als es bis zu 26 Folgen pro Staffel gab und jede Menge Filler-Episoden nötig waren, also solche, deren Geschichten nicht viel taugten und die gegebenenfalls auch günstiger produziert wurden. Dazu sagte Frakes: "Die einzige Filler-Episode, die wir wirklich hatten, war die Clip-Show. Die ist ein Stück Scheiße."

Er bezieht sich auf die Folge Kraft der Träume , die die zweite Staffel abschloss. Riker war hier bewusstlos und man zeigte jede Menge Szenen aus bisherigen Folgen. Dafür musste kaum neues Material gedreht werden.

Es lag an der Verteilung des Budgets

Weshalb manche Folgen günstiger waren, erklärte Frakes auch: Damals hatte man ein festgelegtes Budget für 26 Folgen und teilte dies den Geschichten entsprechend, die man erzählen wollte, auf. Besonders am Anfang und Ende einer Staffel sollte auch geklotzt werden, weswegen es im Mittelteil mehr Folgen geben musste, in denen hauptsächlich geredet wurde.

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WARP FIVE: Sonequa Martin-Green on the Gift of Michael Burnham

The Star Trek: Discovery actress walks us through 'Face the Strange,' her love of the franchise, fandom, and more!

SPOILER WARNING: This article contains story details and plot points for the fifth season of Star Trek: Discovery.

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For the fifth and final season of Star Trek: Discovery , Michael Burnham finally gets to settle in and soak in the thrill of an epic chase with the galaxy’s biggest threat (the Dark Matter Anomaly) behind her.

Ahead of season’s premiere, StarTrek.com sat down for an intimate conversation with series star and executive producer Sonequa Martin-Green where we discussed what the franchise means to her, being surrounded by the fandom, the first half of the final season, and more!

Facing Michael Burnham’s Legacy

"Face the Strange"

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In the latest episode, " Face the Strange ," Michael Burnham, Rayner, and Paul Stamets are stuck in a time loop after fugitives Moll and L'ak plant a time bug on the U.S.S. Discovery . The episode allows fans to revisit pivotal moments across the series' first four seasons and Captain Burnham to face herself, literally, as she stands before the mutineer who was offered a second chance to serve the Federation.

Burnham reflects on that moment in the episode telling her first officer, "The first time I walked onto this bridge, it took every ounce of strength I had not to turn around and run right back off. I respected Starfleet too much to believe I deserved to be here after what I had done." As Rayner notes, Burnham has to be "the only person in Starfleet to ever captain a ship that [they] first boarded as a prisoner."

"That’s one of my favorite episodes of the entire show," Martin-Green shares. "We get to see old Burnham, and that interaction, I feel that it was a gift. It was a gift that the writers gave me, and it was a gift that they gave Burnham. It really means a lot to me because you see this woman falling forward, you see this woman going through the necessary trouble to grow. And you can almost forget where Burnham started, when you look at where Burnham ended, when you look at where I ended up as Michael."

"That right there, that episode gives context," states Martin-Green. "For me, doing it, and then being able to see it in Post, you see it. You see the progression right there in front of your face. That was just one of the best gifts that we could have given to Michael Burnham. It champions the permanent change that is a tenet to our story because every character can do that. Every character could look back and see who they were in Season 1 and see the growth, see the distance that they’ve traveled. It was representative of one of our cornerstones."

The Changing of the XO Guard

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Following Discovery 's first run-in with Moll and L'ak on Q’Mau in " Red Directive ," Saru steps down as Burnham’s first officer in " Under the Twin Moons ," allowing the captain to extend a second chance to the gruff Antares captain, Rayner .

Reflecting on Burnham’s relationship with Saru, who served alongside her on the Shenzhou , before their history aboard Discovery , and his decision to take a new position with the Federation, Martin-Green says, "That was such a heartbreaking moment for Burnham."

"The relationship between Burnham and Saru is just one of my favorite things about Star Trek: Discovery ," she continues. "That brother and sister, they will always be unified. Their relationship was refined with fire and carved in stone, if you will. Him going off to fulfill his own destiny is necessary, honestly, for Burnham's development and maturation. Having him as a guide, a shepherd, and a big brother in a lot of ways gave me as Burnham a sense of security and a sense of peace. And so those things are going to have to be found from within. It's that process of growth. Saru has also, he's matured to that place. He has transformed. He has morphed into this confident, fearless leader and legend with his people. It’s really beautiful because you see these people actualizing. You see these people literally stepping into who they were meant to be and doing it together. They couldn't have done it without each other."

Ushering in a New Era

With the conclusion of Star Trek: Discovery , the series star has had ample time to reflect on the journey these past seven years. As Michael Burnham took us to the 32nd Century, Sonequa Martin-Green took Star Trek to uncharted territory ushering a new modern era for the franchise when Star Trek: Discovery debuted in 2017, 12 years after Star Trek: Enterprise went off air.

Looking holistically, Martin-Green imparts, "We all knew that this franchise has made an impact on our society. We knew that we needed to do it justice, and we were all passionate about that and there was no ego. We knew that we had a great responsibility and a great duty ahead us. And so it is thrilling."

"It's thrilling to be able to be a part of something that has already made an impact, that's already solidified in the consciousness of society," she adds. "It's also great to play these characters, to bring these characters to life that are brand new and fresh. It was great and fulfilling to be able to tell a serialized story, to be able to be the most diverse Trek ever, and to be able to go beyond where any Trek had gone before, even from a timeline perspective. It's really thrilling and fulfilling as an artist, as an actor, as a human being, for me as a Black woman. Also, to be brutally honest, as a Christian, as a wife and mother. It's been a blessing."

What Star Trek Means to Sonequa Martin-Green

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Executive producer and showrunner Alex Kurtzman, speaking exclusively to StarTrek.com , shared that in the run up to the production of the series, they were lucky to come across Martin-Green, "It's that beautiful thing. We had been looking for so long for the right Michael Burnham. And it's that miracle moment that you always wait for when you're in a casting process where just the right person shows up and starts saying the lines, and you go, 'That's my Michael Burnham.' That's what we got with her just out of the gate."

On taking on the role, Martin-Green recalls, “I remember saying really early on that, to me, Star Trek was a call to rise. And I still feel that way.”

“Now here we are almost seven years later after I first said that,” Martin-Green concludes. “And I can attest that it has been true. It has allowed me to grow in my own understanding of who I am. It's emboldened me to express myself more authentically. It's encouraged me to understand my worth and my value and that it is intrinsic. It's inherent. It's not something I need to fight for. All of those things have really deepened in me from being a part of this. And I've heard countless stories. I've had the blessing of hearing countless stories of people saying a version of that as well because of this franchise and because of Discovery specifically. So to me, it's still that call to rise, even if that rise is rising to who you really are and what you're really here to do.”

The Beauty of Her Fandom Experience

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As Discovery readies itself for its final journey, Martin-Green sees the Discovery family extending beyond the cast and crew, to the fandom.

"It's really transcendent, honestly, being a part of the franchise," she shares. "And I had an interesting experience because when I came into the franchise, I knew of it peripherally, but I didn't know it intimately. And we were a family on Discovery ."

"And then over the years, I've come to understand all the different families that make up the franchise, the audience being part of it, being the extended family," notes Martin-Green. “And now here on [ Star Trek: The Cruise VII], my first time doing the full cruise. And now that we're done with Discovery , I feel like now I can see it more clearly. Hindsight is 20/20, and I feel that I have a more objective point of view now and I'm getting to understand these families that make up the franchise in a brand-new way. It's almost like being separated from it is allowing me to be a part of it like never before. In a weird way. It's kind of beautiful though."

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Star trek fans launch new campaign for picard’s legacy spinoff.

Now that fans have #SavedStarTrekProdigy, a renewed effort to advocate for Star Trek: Picard's proposed spinoff, Star Trek: Legacy, is underway.

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• Star Trek: Prodigy was saved by Star Trek fans, and now a grassroots campaign called Letters 4 Legacy is rallying fans to get Star Trek: Legacy a green light for production.
• The campaign calls for fans to stream each episode of Star Trek: Picard season 3 on Paramount+ every Thursday starting November 9th, as a call to action to renew the spinoff series.
• Fans have shown a strong desire for Star Trek: Legacy, with an online petition gaining over 62,000 signatures, and the ending of Picard season 3 setting up an intriguing continuation aboard the USS Enterprise-G.

Star Trek fans saved Star Trek: Prodigy, and a renewed effort is underway to get a green light for Star Trek: Picard season 3's proposed spinoff known as Star Trek: Legacy . Picard season 3 was a huge hit for Star Trek on Paramount+ as generations of fans thrilled to the reunion of the cast of Star Trek: The Next Generatio n in one more galaxy-saving adventure masterminded by showrunner Terry Matalas. Although Picard season 3 ended with a clear setup for a continuation aboard the USS Enterprise-G, there has been no movement by Paramount+ to produce the spinoff dubbed Star Trek: Legacy, and that series is not in development .

The grassroots campaign Letters 4 Legacy is rallying fans to renew the effort to get Star Trek: Legacy a green light by streaming Star Trek: Picard season 3 on Paramount+. Similar to how Picard season 3 was released for 10 weeks from February to April, "Legacy Launch" - Star Trek: Picard Season 3 Rewatch calls for fans to stream each episode every Thursday starting November 9th . The schedule for the “Legacy Launch” - Star Trek: Picard Season 3 Rewatch is as follows:

• November 9, 2023: 'The Next Generation'
• November 16, 2023: 'Disengage'
• November 23, 2023: Calibrate Tricorders for optimal turkey temperature
• November 30, 2023: 'Seventeen Seconds'
• December 7, 2023: 'No Win Scenario'
• December 14, 2023: 'Imposters'
• December 21, 2023: 'The Bounty'
• December 28, 2023: 'Dominion'
• January 4, 2024: 'Surrender'
• January 11, 2024: 'Võx'
• January 18, 2024: 'The Last Generation'

According to Letters 4 Legacy's press release, streaming each episode of Star Trek: Picard season 3 every Thursday during the rewatch "serves as a call to action, an appeal to Paramount not to let the promising future of Star Trek: Legacy slip away." The goal is to get a green light for Star Trek: Legacy with Terry Matalas as showrunner, and his creative team and cast in place to continue the story of Star Trek 's 25th century where Picard season 3 left off.

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Why picard season 3 fans want star trek: legacy.

Fan demand for Star Trek: Legacy has not subsided in the months since Star Trek: Picard season 3's finale streamed on Paramount+. An online petition to green-light Star Trek: Legacy has garnered over 62,000 signatures. Although the Writer's Guild and SAG-AFTRA strikes prevented the writers, and still prevents the actors, from publicly advocating for Terry Matalas' vision to continue Star Trek: Picard season 3's vision for months, fans online have never ceased voicing their desire for Star Trek: Legacy .

Star Trek: Picard season 3 ended with an undeniably intriguing set-up for more voyages aboard the USS Enterprise-G.

Captain Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan) and Commander Raffi Musiker (Michelle Hurd) have earned their roles as the new lead characters of Star Trek: Legacy while Q (John de Lancie) reappearing to tease the cosmic destiny of Ensign Jack Crusher (Ed Speleers) offers a road map that fans find too intriguing not to want to see come to fruition. Picard season 3 also established a dynamic supporting cast including Lieutenant Sidney La Forge (Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut), while Star Trek legend Jonathan Frakes expressed his desire to return as Admiral Will Riker and cameo in the spinoff while also directing episodes. At the very least, "Legacy Launch" - Star Trek: Picard Season 3 rewatch is a great reason to experience Terry Matalas' rousing reunion of Star Trek: The Next Generation all over again.

Star Trek: Picard season 3 is available to stream on Paramount+.

Source: Letters 4 Legacy

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'Star Trek: Picard's Michelle Hurd Says Raffi "Will Love Seven [Until] the End of Time"

Hurd also told the story of how Seven and Raffi's relationship became part of the series during a panel at Calgary Expo.

The Big Picture

• At Calgary Expo, Michelle Hurd spoke in depth about the relationship between Seven and Raffi.
• Hurd confirms Raffi's enduring love for Seven, hinting at a potential future in Star Trek: Legacy if Paramount+ greenlights the series.
• The unexpected Seven and Raffi romance in Picard was sparked by the chemistry between the Hurd and Jeri Ryan at Comic-Con.

While many Star Trek: The Next Generation fans watched their dreams come true in the third and final season of Star Trek: Picard , Saffi fans were left wanting more. Having gotten together in the Season 1 finale and sharing a rocky, but ultimately happy relationship in Season 2, Saffi — or Seven and Raffi to those who may not know their 'ship moniker — went through an off-screen break-up ahead of the final season. While the split was never really directly addressed in the jam-packed season, it set both characters up to serve as the captain and first officer of the newly commissioned Enterprise-G in the series finale.

Speaking during a panel at Calgary Expo hosted by Collider's Maggie Lovitt , a fan asked Michelle Hurd about the break-up and the relationship's potential future in Star Trek: Legacy . Laughing, Hurd said, "[You say] break up and I've got my U-Haul." She went on to say that she and her co-star Jeri Ryan have discussed the relationship at length. "Jeri and I have also talked about this and I’ve said it to her many times. And I’m like, ‘You do understand that Raffi loves Seven, period. End of discussion.’ She will love Seven [until] the end of time. "

While that answer is about as straightforward as they come, Hurd went on to say, "The one thing that we also have to acknowledge is that Raffi loves Seven, that Fenris Ranger, that incredible creature, that amazing individual that stands in front of her. Raffi would never want to limit her or extinguish any of her beautiful flames . So, Raffi will always be happy with Seven in her vision." Even if the pair technically shouldn't be in a relationship while in command, "She wants Seven to be happy with Raffi in her eyesight, but she's perfectly happy to be in her space."

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Hurd went on to say, "One of the things that we really wanted to tell [was] that story of two women of a certain age, who are stubborn, who are set in their patterns, who are living their lives as authentically as they can, who can't help but find each other. So with that, it's a beautiful thing, but it's a complicated thing. And so, I think that there's always going to be love there. " While we don't know if Legacy will get the green light yet at Paramount+ , if the spin-off does happen Hurd said:

"It would be an amazing thing to see that kind of dynamic, to see the respect that each other has to have for each other's space as well as, [some] jealousy[...] I think it would be a phenomenal story. So I can't say for sure whether there's going to be, you know, a white picket fence. But if you're asking Raffi, there’s a white picket fence"

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During the panel, another fan spoke about being surprised by the handhold between Seven and Raffi in the Picard Season 1 finale and asked Hurd if the relationship was planned from the beginning or if it was added in later. While their romance wasn't always planned, Hurd explained that when she looked back at the first season there was an "appreciation" between Seven and Raffi from their first scenes together. She said: "I think that in that season, that episode where they're getting ready to go down to the planet, and I'm helping Seven and Raffi’s giving her [the handcuffs], you could tell that she respects her. So there was already some kind of appreciation between the two of them that moment ."

Hurd went on to tell the story of how at SDCC ahead of the first season, co-star Jonathan Del Arco happened to snap a picture of Hurd and Ryan dressed to the nines and immediately showed it to their producers. She told the Calgary Expo crowd:

"I believe it was at the San Diego Comic-Con, that same event, which was huge and fantastic. And they had a green room, a space where all the actors and everybody goes to get ready for whatever. And Jeri was in this fantastic red dress. She was absolutely gorgeous, and I was wearing a white Helston jumpsuit, so I didn't look too bad myself. And we’re friends, I adore her, and we were standing together and I kind of put my arm around her waist and I kind of gave her a squeeze. And Jonathan Del Arco, Hugh, [and] Jeri's manager is Jonathan's husband. So we're all friends, with Kyle [Fritz]. So Jonathan was standing over there, and he was like, ‘Oh my God, look at me.’ And so we both just looked at him and he took a picture. And then I swear to God, he took that camera, walked right over to our producers, Akiva Goldsman , Alex Kurtzman , [and] Michael Chabon . We’re all sitting right there, and he said, ‘You guys look at how big these two look together.’"

The rest was history as the producers immediately turned around and told Hurd and Ryan, "'Ladies, we have an idea,' and that’s how it started." While we wait to see if Hurd and Ryan will return on Star Trek: Legacy you can stream all three seasons of Picard on Paramount+.

Star Trek: Picard

Follow-up series to Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987) and Star Trek: Nemesis (2002) that centers on Jean-Luc Picard in the next chapter of his life.

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