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The wife wants more seats than her Supercrew offers. I am considering a 5.4 liter (I am fond of the one we have in the Supercrew) in an Excursion. Am I all wet by thinking this is adequate power for an Excursion? She will not be towing. The V-10 is only $500.00 more. This is a kid hauler, and any help with mileage would be a bonus, but I do not want her underpowered on the expressways. John PS. She will not go for the Diesel  

The 5.4 gets about the same if not worse than the V-10 in the excursion.  

I test drove an Excursion w/ the 5.4 and 3.73 axle last year -- it was, shall we say, sluggish? The $500 for the V10 buys more than the larger motor. It also includes a higher capacity radiator (2 cooling rows instead of 1), a stronger rear diff (3 pinion gears instead of 2), and a tighter TC (1.90 vs 2.10 in the Ex). I also think the TCC is stronger, but I can't find the specs... HTH, crewzer  

Crewzer, I need help with the abbreviations. I drove the 5.4L with the 3.73, and agree it's no rocket. The V-10 felt "heavier", yet stronger, but not a bunch more pep. I understand it will drink 2 mpgs more than the 5.4L. I am curious about the 4.10 gear 5.4L match. My past present success with the 5.4L makes me want it to be the better choice. I have no ownership experience with the V-10, and am cautious about the reliability. John  

Crewzer, Good stuff. Unloaded, can you hang with your brother's truck? Again, I have been very pleased with the 5.4, and she won't be towing. John No Mo, I have considered the Expedition, but with the $3,000.00 rebate for the Excursion vs the $1,500.00 for the Expedition, I see more value for the Excusion for essentially the same price.  

johnlyon where did you get your 2 mpg better info for the 5.4L? Everyone I have talked with get worse MPG than I do with the 3:73 rear end. I am getting 12.2 consistantly in the Dallas area around town and between 14 and 16 on the Highway depending on the speed limit.  

No problem. Stronger rear differential Tighter torque converter (1.90:1 nominal stall ratio vs. 2.10:1) TCC = torque converter clutch I'm happy enough with the 5.4V8 and 4.10 combo in my 4X2 crew cab Super Duty. I wanted to get the V10 + 3.73 when I bought my truck in March 2000, but too many dealers told me about long waits for factory orders, so I bought mine off the lot. One of my brothers ordered his truck with V10 a few months later; he's very happy with the performance, and has had *no* problems of any kind. We both tow 3,250 lbs trailers. His winter mileage around suburbia was ~9, and he's seen 15 mpg's on the highway. My 5.4's winter suburban mileage was ~10, and I've seen 16 on the highway. One adjustment I've w/ the 5.4 made is to use mid-grade (89 octane) when towing at low altitudes (<2,500 ft), and 87 when towing above 2,500 ft. The engine is much more responsive, and it'll stay in overdrive longer before downshifting while climbing a hill. crewzer  

I am biased too, and hate the V-10. Those who've been here a while know why! I am very impressed so far with the powerband on my new 5.4/3.73 and mileage is better for short/in town trips. Highway mileage is about the same as the V-10 was. Here's the kicker, though: Banks now makes a powerpack for the 5.4 that will put you up to about 10 more rear wheel horsies than a stock V-10. Plus, you should get some mileage improvement and it will sound sweet! I would definatley go with the 5.4 and 3.73. Break it in a while, then put a powerpack on it if you need more. I was quoted about $1200 for the Banks kit from Fuel Injection in Allen, PA. I want to get a couple thousand miles on first and then I'm going for it. Good Luck  

summitx: Although I like the 5.4L in my superduty and think it's a fine engine choice, I've not hear that many negatives of the V10. Did you experience a problem with it? or was its performance not what you were expecting?  

KXH, My V-10 had a severe flutter problem. Go to http://www.idrive.com/summitx and download the mp3 sound files to hear it. It took a year of heavy battle with FMC to get any help. Finally, they put me in touch with a young guy who is the area rep for the Northwest (James Edwards) and he took care of me. Basically, he gave me a more than fair buy back on my old one and a $2000 voucher for a new one. I went with a 5.4 supercab and, although I really miss the Crew-Cab, I'm happy with it. The powerband is smooth and it seems to have the power where I need it most ~ 3-4000 RPM is just as tourqey as the V-10 was. Granted, the SC is a little lighter than a CC but.... I never towed anything significant with the V-10 but I do pull a 2 place snowmobile trailer that is probably 2500# loaded. The V-10 would pull OK but would have to downshift on even the slightest little hill. I've driven the new Chevy 8.1 vortec and I don't think the V-10 comes close to it for low-end torque. As far as mileage, the V-8 does way better on in town driving but about the same on the highway at 75+.  

The little woman is starting to like the psd. She's even refering to it as her car now!!!!!!!!!!!!  

I have a 2001 excursion limited, V-10, 3.73 limided slip. I tow a 7500 pound boat on weekends in the hills of new england. The engine/axle combo does a great job. It is in no way over or under powered. When unloaded I consistantly get 14 mpg in town and as high as 17 on the highway, towing I get around 12 mpg. I feel that even with just the seats full, the 5.4 would be under powered and fuel economy would suffer. This is a heavy truck that's capable of doing a lot of work for you, why would you want to do it the injustice of under powering it. Resale would also suffer because most that are interested in the excursion have a job for it to do. Go for the V-10, you'll be happier later on.  

I demoed an Ex with a V10 in Y2k and even that was underpowered. Dealers here won't even order one with a 5.4L. If memory serves (as of 2001 models), only the 2WD version is available with the V8. With the Ex weighing in at almost 4 tons, that small block is going to be working way too hard just to move the vehicle, much less any cargo/passengers. Since my 2 day test of that Ex I have always stated that of the current crop of motors, the PSD is the only logical choice for the Ex. Finally, with a 2WD Excursion, the resale/trade-in will be a shocker. If you like that V8 in a SUV, an Expedition is better matched to that powerplant. My .03  

Don't se how you could hate the V10 and like the 5.4 it is a 5.4 with 2 more cylinders same bore and same stroke!!and in that big heavy excursion i bet under most conditions mileage is same fill that thing with a half dozen kids and gear i bet it is a slug with the 5.4 besides resale will be better because most people buy a truck like that with towing in mind!!  

Johnlyon Just a thought for you based on your Bio and location. The fuel savings are not great enought to warrent the penalty you will pay come trade in or resale time here in Texas. My V10 is only 3 months old and has moved from 12.5 to and from work to 13.7 mpg. Most of the dealers here in Fort Hood area won't even order v8. One dealer in Lampasas only orders PSD and they jump off the lot.  

I know many V-10 owners are happy with it - My MAIN point was that I am quite impressed with the 5.4 - More so than I thought I would be - And, I am one of a probable few who have actually owned a V-10 and switched to the 5.4 so I should know. I just think that the 5.4 is a little bit under-rated and the 6.8 is a little over-rated. If you need more towing power than the 5.4 has, go with a diesel, or get the 8.1 Chevy.  

As Dear old Dad said, "Give her everything she wants and just a bit more. It's going to end up that way anyway, so you may as well get credit for being a good guy". She got the PSD. Thanks guys, John  

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• Provides safe haven for the family, carries lots of stuff, truck-tough underpinnings can take lots of abuse.
• Won't fit in a standard garage, drives like a loaded U-Haul, horrific fuel economy, hard to park, can't beat the Suburban at its own game.

Excursions get crystalline headlamp lenses for 2002, as well as "smart" intermittent front and rear wipers. XLTs gain a new auto-lock feature as well as standard third-row child seat tethers with a BeltMinder system. Excursion Limited receives a chrome side strip, automatic climate control and power-adjustable pedals. New options on XLT include power-adjustable pedals and a power front passenger seat. Limited models can be equipped with memory seats and pedals, second-row captain's chairs and redundant controls for climate and audio on the steering wheel. Both XLT and Limited will get a DVD-based entertainment system for rear-seat passengers later this year. Skid plates are no longer optional.

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Too much truck for too many people. Buy a Suburban if you need a nine-passenger SUV that can tow.

Cost to Drive Cost to drive estimates for the 2002 Ford Excursion XLT 2WD 4dr SUV (5.4L 8cyl 4A) and comparison vehicles are based on 15,000 miles per year (with a mix of 55% city and 45% highway driving) and energy estimates of N/A undefined in North Dakota.

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In a classic "bigger is better" move, Ford has upped the SUV ante by producing the largest Bradymobile yet. The Excursion offers more interior room and cargo capacity than the previous heavyweight title-holder, the Chevrolet Suburban. At the same time, Ford is touting the Excursion's "earth-friendly" aspects like an engine lineup that meets LEV standards (albeit for heavy-duty trucks, not passenger cars and light-duty trucks) and the fact that 85 percent of the Excursion, by weight, is recyclable (never mind that 85 percent of an Excursion still equals about 2.5 Honda Civics).

The Excursion's base engine is a 5.4-liter V8 (255 hp/350 pound-feet) on two-wheel-drive models or a 6.8-liter V10 (310 hp/425 lb-ft) on models equipped with four-wheel drive. Optional is a 7.3-liter V8 diesel that makes 250 horsepower and 505 lb-ft of earth-shaking torque. All engines come with a four-speed automatic transmission as standard equipment; no manual transmission is offered in the Excursion.

A trailer tow hitch comes standard, and the Excursion can tug 11,000 pounds in 4WD guise. For comparison, the Chevy Suburban 2500 equipped with the 8.0-liter Vortec V8 can manage 12,000 pounds. But the Ford holds slightly more cubic feet of stuff than the Chevy. The Excursion measures 146.4 cubic feet versus the Suburban's 138.4.

Two trim levels are available. The base XLT model includes running boards, remote keyless entry, four-wheel disc brakes with ABS, an AM/FM/cassette/CD stereo, a 40/20/40 split-bench front seat and a third-row removable bench seat. Angle up to the Limited trim level, and you get a leather interior, automatic climate control, front captain's chairs, woodgrain trim, rear-seat audio controls, a trip computer, power rear quarter-windows, aluminum wheels, illuminated running boards, power signal aero mirrors and fog lamps. An optional rear seat entertainment system, which includes a 6.4-inch overhead LCD monitor, is DVD-powered this year.

Buy an Excursion, and you get tons of cargo- and passenger-carrying capacity, plus the security of knowing that no one else on the road will try to mess with you. Of course, you also get the huge inconvenience of not being able to park in certain garages or use some car wash facilities, and then there's the possibility that other people will assume that, by driving such a behemoth, you're trying to overcompensate for some other area in which you may be lacking. But if you're in the market for such a vehicle, and neither the Chevy Suburban nor the GMC Yukon XL does it for you size-wise, this is your SUV.

Just keep in mind that driving the Excursion is like piloting a loaded U-Haul, and you're going to have to become an ultra-safety-conscious driver.

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