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Trek Madone 4.5 Road Bike

From cruising back roads to enjoying all-day epics to getting your feet wet in the racing circuit, Trek's Madone 4.5 does it all. This full-carbon beauty boasts a stiff, light frame that floats up the climbs, along with Bontrager's Race Lite oversize carbon fork that provides maximum steering precision. Plus, Bontrager's Race wheelset cheats the wind, while the Shimano components include a slick-shifting drivetrain with the perfect gears to spin up the climbs and powerful dual-pivot brakes for complete control on the way back down. This able roadster sports a sweet spread of Bontrager's carbon and aluminum components, and a plush Bontrager seat, too.

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Fast ride, handles road irregularities and bumps well, effortless to ride, climbs well, handles curves expertly, absolute beauty to look at.

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Awesome frame - brilliant handling, climbs well, comfortable and fast and Radioshack graphics on mine look awesome - this is a keeper :-)

Saddle a bit uncomfortable - replaced with Fizik Aliante. Did replace wheels, chainset and brake calipers - Ultegra 6800 bought off a mate - did make a difference. Wheels were eventually replaced with Mavic Ksyrium Elites but only after I wore out the original Bontrager's.

OK. So this review is about 3 years out of date - but hell these things are now appearing on EBay at bargain prices! - thinking about buying one as a winter bike! Bought my Madone 4.5 in 2013 - 1st carbon bike - and 3 years on, and despite the additions to my bike collection it is still my fave. OK, so I have upgraded the brake calipers and chainset - Ultegra 6800 - and it does make a difference (although the original 105's are great) and the wheels are are bit stiffer, BUT if you want a bike that does everything well then it is brilliant - I cannot praise this bike (well mine at least) enough the Madone 4.5 is brilliant - no matter what I won't be selling mine.

Very good value, responsive bike, Excellent in sprints, nice color scheme, duotrap is very neat

extremely logo happy, terrible bontrager saddle, heavy stock wheels, stock crankset is shimano but not even 105, no-name weak brakes

I bought this bike in August 2011. I can say that I am quite satisfied with it. It is very responsive under sudden power, climbs well (the little climbs that I have done) and handles well in turns, which is really important when riding fast and aggressive in close circuits, similar to crits. I find it very comfortable and fast for long rides; I ride with a very fast group in Miami with speeds that oscillates around 28-30 mph and I have hit 38 mph in sprints on a couple of occasions with this bike, smoking in the process many riders in way more expensive machines. About upgrades, the first component to go was the saddle. That thing is awful, I am still thankful to this day that some good soul gave me $25 bucks for it in eBay; It was replaced by a Selle SMP stratos. Then I upgraded the wheels to Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL (I also have a Mavic Ksyrium elite set) and brake calipers to Shimano ultegra 2010. I rode with this setup for a year and then I decided to upgrade further: - I installed a new cool looking cockpit (Ritchey Evo carbon HB and ritchey carbon stem) thus getting rid of the alum bontrager HB, stem and rusted bolts; - I wrapped the HB with a beautiful and comfortable Lizard Skin black tape - 2 new bottle cages (Blackburn carbon) - New group set (2013 SRAM force with standard GXP crankset and 11/23 cassette) - Fizik saddle bag in small size - Upgraded GPS computer from Garmin FR305 to the Garmin Edge 500 with SRAM mount - Replaced the look keo classic pedals by Look keo blades carbon My bike now looks mean, is fast as the fastest (the engine is not so bad if you know what I mean), and all in all I am very happy with its performance. I have been considering upgrading the frameset but it is not really due to low performance but to the fact that the frame size might be a tad too big for me and my back is bothering me in long/hard rides

Well balanced, power transfer, descending, and comfort.

I just feel the need to comment on the last reviewer, and his/her bad experience with Trek brakes. As a bit of background, I have owned three carbon road bikes and a Cannondale Caad10 in the last six yeaes, so I have a bit of experience to compare brands and their corresponding brakes. When I test rode the Madone at the shop, I immediatly noticed that the brakes were weak. Everything else was superb, but I knew the brakes needed a fix. So... after purchasing my Madone, I immediatly replaced the brake pads for 'KoolStop' brand Brake Pads. Problem solved, with strong stopping power, even on long and steep descents. Price = $12.00 per pair. Installation takes about two minutes, and about five for those that find changing a light bulb to be a challange. To be fair, my other bikes had kinda weak brake pads as well, but the Madone version was even a step below. So, the moral of the story here is that yes, the brake pads are inferior (and yes, Trek should not be shipping finished bikes with these pads), but you should not dismiss this amazing bike, especially for such a quick and easy fix.

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Giant TCR Composite, Cannondale Synapse 4 (Carbon), Cannondale CAAD10

Generally rides well - but this is offset by the fact that this bike nearly killed me (see below). Until buying this bike new and crashing it three months later, I was a Trek loyalist.

The Trek Madone 4.5 may be the last road bike that you own -- because it can kill you. My 2011 Trek Madone 4.5 nearly killed me. The main problem with this bicycle is the braking system. To make this an "entry-level" carbon fiber bicycle at a low "price point," Trek used cheap no-name brand components on the 2011 Madone 4.5. If you think that's just a minor "performance" issue, you haven't carefully read the complaints from users about the poor braking system. Trek and your bike shop will do what they did to me, claiming that I didn't properly maintain my then three-month old bike and that I didn't apply the brakes properly. When I complained to my bike shop about the brakes before the accident, I was informed that I should expect longer braking distances on this bike because the thin tire tread has little friction with the road and that I just needed to get used to the superior performance of a carbon fiber bike. The shop and Trek really told me after the accident that I should've been cleaning dust off of the brake pads and that I was braking too hard. (The only way that my bike would even begin to stop was when I squeezed hard on the brakes. Otherwise I just heard a hissing sound.) Then they claimed that I should be more mindful of the weather (yet the road surface where the accident happened was completely dry on a dry, sunny day). When I complained to Trek's warranty guy about the brakes, he said that if Trek made stronger brakes, the pads would wear down the tires too much. Before the accident, I began asking other bike shops about the cost of upgrading the brakes out of my own pocket. The bike shop guy heard me describe a "2011 Trek Madone 4.5" and assumed that I had already brought my bike in. I was amazed when he led me to an identical twin of my bike - right down to the same paint pattern - that had been brought in for a brake upgrade at the owners' expense. Don't ignore the warnings about bad brakes. Trek doesn't care about your life and limb.

Bike rides well -- until you need brakes to stop it. Beware of the no-name Tektro brake system. Do not ride this bike on hills until you have thoroughly tested the braking system. Even on slight downgrades, realize that the bike can pick up speed very quickly and that the poor brakes cannot slow you down safely. Don't trust the Trek warranty because they likely will deny your claim and blame you 100% for their product's manufacturing and design defects.

Trek 7.3 FX, Trek 7300 (both are hybrids)

Excellent ride/handling. Very comfortable seat. Precise shifting w/ Ultegra components. Every bit of the pedal stroke goes to moving the bike forward. Very clean look with the DuoTrap and direct attach derailleur.

Only 1 color scheme available in the US. Would prefer a better crank, at least go with the 105 crank.

I've been mountain biking for 20+ years, after moving to South Florida I decided to get a road bike. I first looked at the Madone 2.0; Specialized Allez and Specialized Secteur aluminum bikes. Next I looked and almost bought a 2012 Madone 3 series on closeout, but I didn't. Just when I was about ready to buy the Madone 4.5 went on sale and it didn't make sense to buy a high-end aluminum or entry level carbon fiber when I could get a bike with better carbon fiber, better components (Ultegra) and a decent wheelset. I was amazed at how much better the Madone 4.5 rode as compared to the 3 series. This bike has a great feel, ride all day comfort with the Affinity 2 seat and carbon seatpost. Every bit of the pedal stroke is utilized to push the bike forward, no wasted effort at all. The direct attached derailleur and DuoTrap sensor really give the bike a clean aero look. I can't speak to how it climbs unless you want to call a 60' drawbridge a climb but I can speak to how well it handles headwinds and crosswinds as we do have a bit of that along the south Florida coast. The Madone 4.5 is a great value especially when you compare it to a comparable Specialized Tarmac which for the same money doesn't offer Ultegra components (105 instead). I also love the fact that Trek offers a service package that covers all parts and labor for 3 or 5 years for very little. Covers everything except for tires, tubes and brake pads, so for the cost of one chain & cassette replacement you're covered for that and more for 3 or 5 years. My only real complaint is the color scheme, only one available in the US. I have a white/blue mountain bike so I know how hard white is to keep clean. I would have also preferred to have internal cable routing but that's just me. Overall great bike, incredible value and I'm looking forward to many miles on this bike.

Solid frame, comfortable ride, good gearing

Too many Trek name on bike graphics, not full 105 group, rims heavy

Bought on year end close out for $1,700 at LBS and great deal compared to 2013 model pricing abet different component group. Tested Specialized Roubaix, Jamis Comp, Cannondale Synapse and the Trek felt the most comfortable to ride - I think even better than my steel Jamis Aurora Elite with 631 tubing. The wider BB certainly seems to help with the power transfer and light weight (@18-19lbs) helps to propel this easily. Love the color scheme (Metallic black and silver) but hate all the Trek name everywhere you look. May swap out the rims later but otherwise plan to keep everything stock for now (except tires) and see how the Tiagra gearing works out.

Roubaix, Jamis Comp, Cannondale Synapse

Trek's OCLV frame is just amazing, and the heart of this bike. Stiff, it absorbs shock well and the H2 fit is great for racing and enthusiasts like myself. Crank is just as stiff as a Shimano 105

R1 tires are very poor as they are too heavy and have a very low thread count.

I purchased a 2012 Trek 4.5 after comparing it to Cannondale, and Specialized bikes. I preferred the geometry of the H2 that Trek offers. I have to say that the frame on the 4.5 is just wonderful. It is very stiff, and it absorbs bumps very well. The crank is also stiff, and when climbing up hills, and there was no flex felt when pushing on my Shimano 105 pedals. The derailleur’s shift very smoothly and quickly. I see no reason to upgrade the crank or derailleurs on this bike. The brakes feel responsive and well controlled. Though the pads are ok, I found the Shimano pads to improve stopping distance overall. No need to upgrade the brake set to 105 as the Tektro breaks with Shimano pads are just as good. Everyone is talking about the seat on the Trek bikes. The Affinity saddle on Trek road bikes are usually 128mm size. If you’re a young slim person who races it’s a good fit. The 146mm was a better fit for me, and when A/B the Bontrager RL saddle to the Affinity, I agree it’s a lot more comfortable than the stock saddle. It’s not soft, but firm with some give. I have ridden for hours on this saddle with no complaints at all. Though I was very happy with the rims, I upgraded the tires from the Bontrager R1 to the R3’s. As another reviewer pointed out, the R1’s are heavy tires and the thread count too low. I am disappointed that Trek even considers putting the R1’s on any road bike they sell. The R3’s are a huge improvement with higher thread count, being much lighter, and they appear to help the bike be more responsive when climbing or sprinting. The R3 upgrade made a huge difference on the bike. I highly recommend this upgrade as you will notice more of a difference than changing any other component on the bike. I was told the R4 tires are lighter but wear faster. The R3’s are great for regular riding and racing. The saddle is a personal preference and you need a saddle that fits your frame. I would try the RL saddle and see if it works better for you. I am giving the bike 5 starts after changing the tires to the R3’s. There is really nothing I don’t love about this bike. No need to really upgrade anything besides the tires and brake pads. The only reason to buy a more expensive Trek is for an even lighter bike than the 4.5. I love this bike and have no desire to ride any other road bike. It is very comfortable holding on to the hoods when cruising and it looks great.

The OCLV carbon frame is light, and stiff. It absorbs road vibrations just wonderfully. The crank is very stiff and the paint job looks great.

The saddle comes with a 128 mm size which was too small for me. I also found the seat to be very hard. I changed to a Bontrager RL seat and went with a 146 mm size saddle. I found it to be a lot more comfortable.

Being in my 40's, I wanted to upgrade from my Puch bike that has a Reynolds 531 frame, fork, and Shimano 600 parts as well.. I decided to buy a 2012 Trek 4.5 bike. I found the Shimano 105 derail's to shift just fine, but not as quick and instant as I thought it should. With the 2013 version having some Ultegra, I decided to upgrade the front and back derail's to Ultegra. I found they shifted a little bit snappier than 105. The brakes stopped just find though they are a generic brand. I went down a hill over 35 mph and it stopped confidently. Once I upgraded the Bontrager Affinity 1 saddle to a larger size and to their RL model I was quite happy. The bike climbs really well and the handle bars are light and steady. The tape feels like likes styrofoam. I will upgrade the tape with white cork later on. I am very happy with the bike and found the rims to be good as well. I don't race so perhaps they are not the lightest but they are still good rims. The tires stick to the road nicely. The bike is great for someone who is a racer as well as a serious rider.

Good frame - absorbs road buzz, and all day comfort (if you have the right saddle). Frame is still in all the right places, but not so stiff that it leaves you sore. Handles well, and a good bike for climbing & long rides

A little heavy with the stock wheels, equipped with quite possibly the worst saddle in the world, and terrible brakes

(Based on the 2011 Madone, 54cm) I've now covered over 2,000 miles on this since I bought it. Overall, it's a great bike to ride. Good on the climbs, relatively fast on the flats, and handles well. Not the fastest into a turn, but not the kind of bike where you're constantly wondering where the edge is - it tells you quite gradually that you're getting close to the limit. First thing to note - the Tektro brakes are awful. Descending with the Tektro's was a bit of a lottery - on one downhill, I was in a full-on squeeze, and couldn't get the bike completely stopped. And that was from 20mph, in the dry. So, the Tektro's got swapped out for a pair of Ultegra's in the first 500 miles - stopping power infinitely better! Frame: Not the lightest frame out there, but it gets the job done. Stiff at the BB, but the thinned seat stays offer decent compliance over rougher roads. The H2 fit is very comfortable, and easy to set up. Matt black colour looks great, although as others have said, Trek went a bit sticker happy. Wheels: the stock wheels are heavy, and generally terrible. Whilst they roll reasonably well, they flex a fair bit, especially the front wheel on the climbs. The bearings are reasonable, but needed to be serviced after 1,200 miles in mostly dry weather. Also, front & back wheels both got out of true 800 miles in, and I'm fairly light (155lbs) and spend a lot of time avoiding potholes where I can. I'm now running some very light clinchers (Stan's 340 rims laced to Chris King R45 Hubs) - and the difference is enormous. The only downside is that the high weight down low makes the bike very stable - when you switch to the lighter wheels, the bike becomes much twitchier as your Centre of Gravity heads up Saddle: It's worth switching this out early on too. The stock saddle is well padded, but incredibly uncomfortable. Mine went in favour of a Specialized Romin, which is way more comfortable, and 100g lighter to boot. Groupset: the 105 set does a fine job otherwise. Mine came well set-up, so I've not had a dropped chain or missed shift so far, and it's very easy to service. Integrated barrel adjusters on the shifter cables make it easy to tune on the road if you need to.

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2011 Trek Madone 4.5

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Trek Madone 4.5 review

Madone frameset in OCLV carbon

Warren Rossiter

Last year’s Trek Madone 3.5 took the eventual Bike of the Year 2012 victor, the Focus Izalco Pro 3.0 , right to the wire, earning a runner-up spot in the process. For 2013, Trek have significantly upped their game with the Madone 4.5.

Frame & equipment: Strong all round

The 4.5 uses a significantly better grade of carbon than that of the already impressive 3.5, making it notably light at a claimed 1,100g for the frameset. The frame itself incorporates Trek’s take on the press-fit bottom bracket BB90, for improved stiffness and less weight.

As with the previous top-of-the-range 6-Series, the seat tube is asymmetric, with the same going for the rear chainstay mount for the ANT+ DuoTrap sensor (available separately for £39.99).

The E2 tapered head tube and highly sculpted shaping is taken from that US-built superbike, which is essentially what you’re getting with the 4.5; in terms of specification it’s a stripped-down version of their previous Grand Tour winning machine. The 5-, 6- and 7-Series bikes now have aero-optimised KVF designs, but we’re glad Trek have kept the wonderful Pro level chassis alive.

A frame with design credentials this good and on a sub-£2,000 complete bike would suggest some downgrades and compromises elsewhere, but Trek have been clever with the budget. For a start, they’ve used Shimano’s Ultegra system for the mechs and shifters, only downgrading the brakes and cassette to the still-impressive 105 range, while the chainset is Shimano’s non-series R565.

The wheel package hasn’t been compromised, though, as Trek’s component brand Bontrager have supplied the new-for-2013 Race wheels, featuring classy, minimal hubs with quality bearings, great seals and butted spokes. The all-new rims are also compatible with tubeless tyres.

The Races are shod with Bontrager’s R1 tyres – with a nominal size of standard 23, they are in fact slightly broader than that, and in our opinion all the better for it. The difference in size allows them to be run at the lower pressures necessary for winter grip, without increasing the chances of you puncturing. As you’d imagine, Bontrager also provide the rest of the Madone’s finishing kit.

The slender, compact reach and drop VR-C bar is an adequate performer – nicely shaped with great dimensions but little to make it stand out beyond that. The Race Lite stem is a bit classier, and nicely finished with quality hardware.

At the back it’s a much more impressive affair, with the Affinity 2 saddle (fast becoming one of our favourites) sitting atop an elegant carbon seatpost (though we did need a liberal coating of carbon prep to prevent it slipping).

Ride & handling: Smooth and extremely capable

Out on the road, the class of the 4.5 is completely evident. We loved the 3.5 last year but the 4.5 takes everything that made it exceptional and turns it up to 11. The overall feel is completely smooth, and a low overall weight and broad 50/34, 11-28 gearing make the bike a complete breeze on climbs. Yet the stiffness and oh-so-sorted position make it an absolute blast down hills.

Smashing the 4.5 through a succession of bends never caused it to get flustered or drift off line. Some bikes can have snappier initial turn-in, but the 4.5 doesn’t need to be as rapid; with a bike that gives this much communication through its feel, we never found the need for last-minute direction changes mid-corner.

Plenty of the 4.5’s ultra-confident ride comes down to the H2 geometry (the top tube is shorter than the pro H1 by a few millimetres, and slightly taller at the front, again by just a few units). Dimensions that include a 190mm head tube and 992mm wheelbase are nowhere near excessively relaxed, especially when you factor in a standard 73-degree seat angle and steeper-than-average 73.8-degree head angle.

The 4.5 scores a lot of its points from the frame being stiff where it’s required (the head and down tube, BB and chainstays) and comfortable elsewhere. We’d eventually upgrade the average handlebar and chainset but would be more than happy to pay the price to have this sublime chassis in our lives.

This bike was tested as part of Cycling Plus magazine’s 2013 Bike Of The Year feature – read the full results in issue 273, on sale Friday 1 March and available on Apple Newsstand and Zinio .

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I've been riding a Trek 7500 hybrid since 1998. I wanted to move up to something lighter and faster. After discussions and measurements with my LBS, I've ordered a 2010 Madone 4.5 to test. One problem I'm having while waiting for the bike to come in is that there is relatively little information online about this model. There are plenty of reviews and discussions about the 5 and 6 Series Madones, but very little about the 4 Series. (I should mention that this includes both the Trek road bike catalog, AND the Madone-specific catalogs, as well as Trek's web site and other web sources.) I'm wondering if it's a good choice, since it's the lowest Madone model and has the lowest-quality frame and component specs of all the Madones. Is it better to get a low-end Madone, or would a high-end 1 or 2 Series aluminum frame bike be a better choice? The best thing about this is that the LBS owner says if I don't like the bike, I don't have to buy it. I'd love some opinions about this. Thanks!  

tenrec said: I've been riding a Trek 7500 hybrid since 1998. I wanted to move up to something lighter and faster. After discussions and measurements with my LBS, I've ordered a 2010 Madone 4.5 to test. One problem I'm having while waiting for the bike to come in is that there is relatively little information online about this model. There are plenty of reviews and discussions about the 5 and 6 Series Madones, but very little about the 4 Series. (I should mention that this includes both the Trek road bike catalog, AND the Madone-specific catalogs, as well as Trek's web site and other web sources.) I'm wondering if it's a good choice, since it's the lowest Madone model and has the lowest-quality frame and component specs of all the Madones. Is it better to get a low-end Madone, or would a high-end 1 or 2 Series aluminum frame bike be a better choice? The best thing about this is that the LBS owner says if I don't like the bike, I don't have to buy it. I'd love some opinions about this. Thanks! Click to expand...

I think the Madone 4 series are a good value... the 4.7 has a lot nicer parts, but is a little more expensive. A custom $2500 bike is going to remotely compare... unless you're extremely unusually shaped.  

Nothing wrong with a 4.5 if you could scratch up a few more hundred the 4.7 is better. You should be happy with a 4.5 like the poster above said make sure it is a good fit.  

I'd go w/ a Madone over a 1 or 2 series. Here's some reviews: http://www.buzzillions.com/dz_444038_trek_madone_4_5_reviews#bz-model-reviewTitle http://www.roadbikereview.com/mfr/trek/road-bike/PRD_411974_5668crx.aspx http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/road/product/madone-45-08-29372 http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=120369  

My girlfriend has a Madone 4.5 WSD. She's had it about a year and a half now and really likes it. From what I've seen it looks great and performs well. Id take one over a 1 or 2 series any day. Only thing suspect in my opinion are the Bontrager wheels with the funky paired spokes. The wheels havent stayed all that true (and she isn't heavy) and there are black marks on the rim from the brakes near almost every pair of spokes indicating to me that the rim surface has been distorted near the spoke pairings. However I hear for 2010 Bontrager has finally wised up and is losing the gimmicky paired spokes. Maybe their new wheels will be more durable.  

This is the cheapest Madone but I think the quality will be as good as other carbon fiber frames. The design of the Madone frames is the same, the difference will be in frame weight and layup of the carbon fiber. So you can expect the ride to be similar to the more expensive Madones, the difference in frame weight will not be perceptible. The 4.7 Madone is the same frame but with SRAM Rival components for a higher price. Verdict: Good  

MarvinK said: I think the Madone 4 series are a good value... the 4.7 has a lot nicer parts, but is a little more expensive. A custom $2500 bike is going to remotely compare... unless you're extremely unusually shaped. Click to expand...

Marc said: Well the 4 series Madones are made in the Orient...odds are the 1/2k Series Al frames are made just down the street from where the Madone 4s are made. I can tell you with a fair degree of certainty, the bike will likely ride fine and be as durable as a CF bike can be. Click to expand...

Marc said: For me, the question I find myself asking is: "$2100USD MSRP for a plastic frame with 105 level components?" That is what gets my eye most. I know economies are in shambles--but at $2500 (after taxes mind you), you're near custom bike prices--and you're getting an off the peg frame with only 105 parts. But this is me and my set of values. Of course, if you're new to road cycling, you might be perfectly happy with 105, opine and parts-snobishness are funny things. Click to expand...

davidka said: I raced on one most of the year and it was an excellent race platform, stiff, stable and comfortable. Mine was a 62cm (6'4", 165lbs) with SRAM Rival and it weighed just under 17lbs. with Race X Lite wheels. If you get a Madone 4 series (any of them) and it fits you correctly you will not be sorry. Click to expand...

Farmer Tan said: I'd go w/ a Madone over a 1 or 2 series. Here's some reviews: http://www.buzzillions.com/dz_444038_trek_madone_4_5_reviews#bz-model-reviewTitle http://www.roadbikereview.com/mfr/trek/road-bike/PRD_411974_5668crx.aspx http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/road/product/madone-45-08-29372 http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=120369 Click to expand...

davidka said: .. and across the street from where Cannondales, Specialized, Scotts, Cervelos, Fujis and most all the others are made. The construction of the 4 series is different from the 5's and 6's but it's still a great frame. I raced on one most of the year and it was an excellent race platform, stiff, stable and comfortable. Mine was a 62cm (6'4", 165lbs) with SRAM Rival and it weighed just under 17lbs. with Race X Lite wheels. If you get a Madone 4 series (any of them) and it fits you correctly you will not be sorry. Edit: I don't think a custom frame/bike for $2500 is realistic these days. Click to expand...

tenrec said: Wow, you make it sound like a piece of crap! I've noticed that I can get a higher level of componentry in a full carbon frame for hundreds of dollars less if I go to a lesser-known brand and buy from someplace like Performance Bicycle. The disadvantage is that they are not local for things like repairs, adjustments, etc. Click to expand...

Don Duende said: The 4.7 Madone is the same frame but with SRAM Rival components for a higher price. Verdict: Good Click to expand...

Marc said: My point is that, a year or two ago--that same bike would be several hundred less, or have a better component group for the same price. To give you a notion-5 years ago: In Performance Bike, you could buy Dura-Ace shifters for $200. Now they cost $700-simply because that is what people will pay. 5 years ago you could by a crankset, new, from Performance of good quality for under $100USD. Now you cannot buy a crank for less than $300. Click to expand...

tenrec said: The Madone I've ordered will have a Shimano 105 triple chainring in the front and either a Shimano 105 or Ultegra rear derailleur. Is there much difference in performance, weight, or quality between the 105 and the Ultegra? Click to expand...

Kevin_in_SB said: Why do you want a triple get a compact. Click to expand...

tenrec said: Is it because they charge what the market will bear, or are there other factors? Inflation has increased in recent years, and the value of the dollar has fluctuated against the Japanese yen. Could these be factors in the price changes you mention? (And if Dura-Ace has inflated the way you say, have the equivalent Campagnolo parts done something similar? If the Shimano parts got so expensive, people would have switched to Campy unless they were doing the same thing.) Click to expand...

Marc said: For about $2500 or so, you can get a fully built custom Habanero with 105...and that is a Ti custom bike. Click to expand...

tenrec said: I've ridden a triple on my Trek 7500 for 11 years and I just like the wide range of gears it gives me. Click to expand...

For what it's worth, I'm the new owner of a 2010 Madone 4.7 and I couldn't be happier. The ride is well damped but stiff enough to climb very well. I optioned for the 4.7 over the 4.5 because for the small price difference between the 4.5 and 4.7 the move from 105 to SRAM Rival was significant. I even think that I've mastered the double click SRAM. If you are unsure of the 4.5, I promise that you'll be happy. If you can stretch your budget, the 4.7 is worth it in my opinion.  

rb1freak said: For what it's worth, I'm the new owner of a 2010 Madone 4.7 and I couldn't be happier. The ride is well damped but stiff enough to climb very well. I optioned for the 4.7 over the 4.5 because for the small price difference between the 4.5 and 4.7 the move from 105 to SRAM Rival was significant. I even think that I've mastered the double click SRAM. If you are unsure of the 4.5, I promise that you'll be happy. If you can stretch your budget, the 4.7 is worth it in my opinion. Click to expand...

Yep, Rival is lighter and the 2010 stuff got a bunch of upgrades, it's very similar to Force.  

I would go for Rival, but you should ride both and pick the one you prefer. The biggest upgrade will be the wheels but the wheels will be perfectly fine for everyday riding. Consider a custom hand built set from Speed Dreams when your budget allows.  

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