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On November 18, 2022, the engaging, enchanting, cutting, yet beautiful Swedish metal supergroup Soen will release (via Silver Lining Music) a very special concert film, ‘ATLANTIS’, featuring thirteen of the group’s most popular compositions reinterpreted with live orchestral accompaniment.

The perfect way for Soen to celebrate a decade together; ‘ATLANTIS’ was created within the mystic and magical confines of Atlantis Grammofon Studio in Stockholm, Sweden, which has seen a wide range of international artists record, from Quincy Jones to Lenny Kravitz to Green Day. Formerly a movie house in 1941, it went on to become Metronome Studio (during which time ABBA was born) before becoming Atlantis Grammofon in 1983.

The first track being released as single and video from Soen’s “alternate utopia” is their brand-new piece “Trials”, which can be streamed/watched here:

Founding members Martin Lopez and Joel Ekelöf deliberate on the meaning of the song: “Freedom is not to be taken for granted. Modern society is built to entertain us and keep us passive, forgetting about the important things in life. We have to be aware of what we really value in our lives. “The great masses are taken advantage of by a few wolves of wealth, many of whom we put in power ourselves or pay monthly subscription fees to. “Trials” talks about the desperation and anger of knowing that society is unfair and that we all contribute to something we’re against just by existing.”

Filmed and recorded on December 10, 2021, Martin Lopez (drums & percussion), Joel Ekelöf (lead vocals), Lars Enok Åhlund (guitars & piano), Cody Lee Ford (lead guitar) and Oleksii “Zlatoyar” Kobel (bass) worked together with an 8-piece orchestra to reinterpret and rediscover fresh energy and elements in classic Soen songs, such as “Antagonist”, “Monarch”, “Jinn” and “Lucidity”, as well as introducing a stunning interpretation of Slipknot’s deeply dark meditation on darkness rejecting love, “Snuff”.

‘ATLANTIS’ Track List:

1.Antagonist 2. Lunacy 3. Monarch 4. Trials 5. River 6. Jinn 7. Illusion 8. Modesty 9. Lucidity 10. Savia 11. Fortune 12. Snuff 13. Lascivious 14. Lotus

‘ATLANTIS’ was recorded by David Castillo and Iñaki Marconi, mixed by Castillo, and mastered by Tony Lindgren. The performance was filmed and directed by George Laycock from the bespoke British production house Blacktide Phonic/Visual.

‘ATLANTIS’ will be available as a DVD-CD with bonus footage, a Double 12” Limited Edition Vinyl, Long Form Video, Digital Download and Streaming.

Pre-orders available HERE: https://lnk.to/SoenATLANTIS

With no sign of slowing down, the relentless metal quintet recently announced a twenty date North American Tour, kicking-off at Chicago’s Lincoln Hall; the tour will also see Soen perform as special guests of Katatonia in Dallas and Austin on December 6 and 7. All purchased tickets remain valid for the rescheduled dates and tickets remain on-sale. Full list of confirmed dates, tickets, and additional information available HERE

IMPERIAL European Tour 2022:

Sept.2 – Gdansk, Drizzly Grizzly – PL Sept.3 – Warsaw, Proxima – PL Sept.4 – Wroclaw, Akademia – PL Sept.6 – Aschaffenburg, Colos Saal – DE Sept.7 – Milan, Magazzini Generali – IT Sept.8 – Rome, Largo – IT Sept.9 – San Dona’ di Piave, Revolver – IT Sept.10 – Munich, Backstage – DE Sept.11 – Berlin, Fraanz – DE Sept.13 – Cologne, Stollwerck – DE Sept.15 – Leipzig, Hellraiser – DE Sept.17 – Budapest, A38 – HU Sept.18 – Bratislava, MMC – SK Sept.20 – Olomouc, S-Klub – CZ Sept.21 – Vienna, Arena – AT Sept.22 – Aarau, KIFF – CH Sept.23 – Strasbourg, La Maison Bleue – FR Sept.24 – Paris, La Maroquinerie – FR Sept.26 – Manchester, Rebellion – GB Sept.27 – Birmingham, o2 The Institute 2 – GB Sept.28 – London, o2 Academy Islington – GB Sept.29 – Antwerp, Trix – BE Sept.30 – Zoetermeer, De Boerderij (Acoustic) – NL Oct.1 – Zoetermeer, De Boerderij – NL

IMPERIAL North America Tour 2022:

Nov.22 – Chicago, IL – Lincoln Hall Nov.23 – Toronto, ON – Lee’s Palace Nov.25 – Ottawa, ON – Brass Monkey Nov.26 – Montreal, QC – Le Studio TD Nov.27 – Quebec City, QC – L’Imperial Nov.29 – Boston, MA – Brighton Music Hall Nov.30 – New York City, NY – Gramercy Theatre Dec.1 – Baltimore, MD – Baltimore Soundstage Dec.2 – Charlotte, NC – The Underground Dec.3 – Tampa, FL – Crowbar Dec.4 – Atlanta, GA – Center Stage Dec.6 – Austin, TX – Come and Take it Live* Dec.7 – Dallas, TX – Amplified Live* Dec.8 – Houston, TX – Scout Bar Dec.10 – Denver, CO – Bluebird Theater Dec.11 – Salt Lake City, UT – Urban Lounge Dec.13 – Seattle, WA – The Crocodile Dec.15 – Roseville, CA – Goldfield Roseville Dec.16 – Los Angeles, CA – Troubadour Dec.17 – San Diego, CA – Brick by Brick *Guests to Katatonia

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  • Rating: 9/10
  • Release Date: 18 November, 2022
  • Label: Silver Lining Music
  • Musicians : Joel Ekelöf - Vocals Martín López - Drums Lars Enok Åhlund - Keyboards and Guitar Cody Lee Ford - Guitar Oleksii “Zlatoyar” Kobel - Bass
  • Favorite songs: Antagonist, Lotus, Fortune, River, Lunacy
  • For Fans of: Riverside, Leprous, Wheel, Katatonia, Pain Of Salvation
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This review is being written just as Soen is wrapping up a hugely successful Latin American leg of its “Imperial” tour and preparing to embark on the European leg of its highly anticipated “ Atlantis ” tour. The latter is dedicated to the very album that is being reviewed here; the live, orchestra-backed “Atlantis”, as a refresher of sorts before European audiences finally have the opportunity to experience it in person.

While writing this in the context described above, I can’t help but ponder how I would summarize the album I’m about to review as an all-encompassing title. And here’s what I’ve come up with: Soen’s “Atlantis”: The Next Level For a Band That is Already Next Level . And to back up this daring statement, I’d recommend watching any of the latest videos posted on Soen’s various social media accounts from their recent Latin American stint. What you will most likely notice is a band that is more confident on stage than ever before, near-flawlessly performing in venues packed with people who genuinely live and breathe their music and lyrics.

This success is further proof that Soen has long ceased being legendary Martín López ’s latest band, but has become a standalone project in which every single member is a musical force in their own right. And this too is by design, since each one of them has been carefully chosen to round up a project that is impeccably polished, wonderfully unique and constantly evolving.

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“Atlantis” very much feels like the next step in this evolution and, after listening to the album, one might argue that it’s a very appropriate one. Because hearing Soen’s most powerful songs in this regal orchestral context gives you the sense that they have always been meant to play at this level and could very well continue to do so if they chose to.

Soen’s music is highly complex, both instrumentally and lyrically. Every single track is polished to perfection; every guitar riff and solo, every bass line and drum track thought out in the most minute detail. Layered upon this are strong, emotive vocal lines that give brutally honest accounts of the world we inhabit, with all of its cruelty and unfairness, but also impart hopeful musings over the power of resilience and unity against ever-increasing adversity. Soen speaks to the outcasts, the unsung heroes, to those who simply do not fit. And, if there was an anthem to be discovered among the band’s songs, I believe it would be ‘Lotus’.

Soen – Slipknot’s Snuff

“Atlantis” takes all of this and strips away the heavy overtones to reveal the deeper, emotionally and compositionally softer meanings underneath. The new orchestral arrangement and the vulnerability of the live performance itself paint songs that are well-known and loved into often entirely different colors. Intricate guitar solos are doubled by forceful piano passages that at times have an almost jazzy quality, thundering drum solos are enhanced by tempestuous string arrangements, while Joel Ekelöf ’s deep, velvety voice shines in a new light. As in most live performances, he allows his natural vibrato to come through a lot more, which adds more depth and realness to his emotive delivery, complete with delicate falsetto passages and flourishes. The backing vocals and the violins, which on certain tracks almost sound like an extra vocal layer, help to bring all of these qualities out even more. In describing this, my mind actually travels to a lyrical passage from ‘Monarch’: “thundering choirs fill the air with cries.”

Soen – Fortune

The album is almost entirely made up of existing Soen songs, one might say some of their most iconic: ‘Savia’ (“Cognitive”), which could be considered a common ground favorite for fans of the band’s original sound and fans of its current, post-“Lykaia” sound alike; ‘Jinn’ and ‘Lucidity’ (“Lykaia”); ‘Lotus’, ‘Lunacy’, ‘River’ and ‘Lascivious’ (“Lotus”); ‘Antagonist’, ‘Illusion’, ‘Monarch’, ‘Modesty’ and ‘Fortune’ (“Imperial”). Perhaps unsurprisingly, most of the songs chosen for this live recorded performance are from “Lotus” and “Imperial”, the albums that mark Soen’s evolution into its own unique sound.

The only new additions are the original song ‘Trials’, a hauntingly beautiful cry of despair within a broken world, and a masterful cover of Slipknot ’s already epic ‘Snuff’. It’s not often that I find myself unable to decide whether I prefer the original or the cover version of a song, but I can honestly say Soen has put me in this situation with their brilliant rendition of ‘Snuff’. The raw emotional tumult of the song is a perfect fit for everything Soen stands for stylistically.

Soen – Savia

To conclude, “Atlantis” is a decidedly next level stage for a band that has already been evolving at a constant, maybe even rapid pace with every new release. An absolute must-listen, in my opinion, as it gives insight into everything Soen stands for – both musically and thematically – from a completely fresh angle. One that gives a majestic touch to an already highly perfected sound. And, if you can catch them live on this tour, I would highly recommend you take the opportunity.

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In one sentence: ” Wearin’ the inside out ” Have seen’ the last Atlantis Show in ColosSaal Aschaffenburg Germany. Do underscribe every single word you’ve written. Blind. The best Concert we’ve been so far. Simply perfect.

Tracy Mosbarger

While technically a live album, compared to the live show I saw at an intimate setting here in Sacramento, it’s more like a greatest hits package to me. I agree, the newer renderings of the songs have improved them. What a great live show!!! Best concert I’ve seen in 2 years. I feel lucky they came to my town.

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Release Date: November 17th 2022

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ATLANTIS is out now! Available as a DVD-CD with bonus footage, a Double 12” Limited Edition Vinyl, Long Form Video, Digital Download and Streaming. Order all formats, including Long Form Video at this location

ATLANTIS is a special concert film featuring thirteen of the group’s most popular compositions reinterpreted with live orchestral accompaniment. ATLANTIS was created within the mystic and magical confines of Atlantis Grammofon Studio in Stockholm, Sweden, which has seen a wide range of international artists record, from Quincy Jones to Lenny Kravitz to Green Day. Formerly a movie house in 1941, it went on to become Metronome Studio (during which time ABBA was born) before becoming Atlantis Grammofon in 1983..

Filmed and recorded on December 10th 2021, Martin Lopez (drums & percussion), Joel Ekelöf (lead vocals), Lars Enok Åhlund (guitars & piano), Cody Lee Ford (lead guitar) and Oleksii “Zlatoyar” Kobel (bass) worked together with an 8-piece orchestra to reinterpret and rediscover fresh energy and elements in classic Soen songs, such as “Antagonist”, “Monarch”, “Jinn” and “Lucidity”, as well as introducing a stunning interpretation of Slipknot’s deeply dark meditation on darkness rejecting love, “Snuff”. The end result of this 80 minutes performance is some remarkable new aural refractions of Soen’s greatest material for fans to absorb and enjoy. As has always been the way with Soen: the deepest dives yield the greatest treasures.

“‘ATLANTIS’ undeniably proves that SOEN's music can be as breathtaking, poignant and ultimately beautiful in an acoustic live setting as it is imposing, crunching and thunderous in their studio releases. These guys are truly masters of combining emotion and strength, power and atmosphere in their own unique way” – SONIC PERSPECTIVES
“Flawless and sublime… So delightful and satisfying, you could listen to this endlessly and still be just as excited as the first time hearing it.” FISTFUL OF METAL
“ATLANTIS is a deep dive into SOEN's artistic soul” – A&P REACTS
“Intimate, prog and atmospheric” – ROCK HARD ITALY
“An Absolute gem” – WANTLIST
"Not so much a different spin but emphatically one that adds a new and enlightening perspective and dimension to the Soen catalogue 9/10” – POWER PLAY
“Stop signs for the restless world” – STARKSTROM
“This concert film of Soen is a definite must see” - HeadBangers LifeStyle
“Starring on 'Atlantis' is guitarist Cody Lee Ford, who comes up with one beautiful solo after another.” - AARDSHOK

ATLANTIS was recorded by David Castillo and Iñaki Marconi, mixed by Castillo, and mastered by Tony Lindgren. The performance was filmed and directed by George Laycock from the bespoke British production house Blacktide Phonic/Visual.

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SOEN Announce Release of Concert Film “Atlantis”, Watch Video for First Single “Trials”

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On November 18, 2022, the engaging, enchanting, cutting, yet beautiful Swedish metal super-group Soen will release (via Silver Lining Music ) a very special concert film, “Atlantis” , featuring thirteen of the group’s most popular compositions reinterpreted with live orchestral accompaniment.

The perfect way for Soen to celebrate a decade together; “Atlantis” was created within the mystic and magical confines of Atlantis Grammofon Studio in Stockholm, Sweden, which has seen a wide range of international artists record, from Quincy Jones to Lenny Kravitz to Green Day . Formerly a movie house in 1941, it went on to become Metronome Studio (during which time ABBA was born) before becoming Atlantis Grammofon in 1983.

The first track being released as single and video from Soen ’s “alternate utopia” is their brand-new piece “Trials” , which can be streamed/watched below.

Founding members Martin Lopez and Joel Ekelöf deliberate on the meaning of the song: “Freedom is not to be taken for granted. Modern society is built to entertain us and keep us passive, forgetting about the important things in life. We have to be aware of what we really value in our lives. The great masses are taken advantage of by a few wolves of wealth, many of whom we put in power ourselves or pay monthly subscription fees to. “Trials” talks about the desperation and anger of knowing that society is unfair and that we all contribute to something we’re against just by existing.”

Filmed and recorded on December 10, 2021, Martin Lopez (drums & percussion), Joel Ekelöf (lead vocals), Lars Enok Åhlund (guitars & piano), Cody Lee Ford (lead guitar) and Oleksii “Zlatoyar” Kobel (bass) worked together with an 8-piece orchestra to reinterpret and rediscover fresh energy and elements in classic Soen songs, such as “Antagonist” , “Monarch” , “Jinn” and “Lucidity”, a s well as introducing a stunning interpretation of Slipknot ’s deeply dark meditation on darkness rejecting love, “Snuff”.

The end result of this eighty minute performance is some remarkable new aural refractions of Soen ’s greatest material for fans to absorb and enjoy. As has always been the way with Soen : the deepest dives yield the greatest treasures.

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“Atlantis” Track List:

1.Antagonist 2. Lunacy 3. Monarch 4. Trials 5. River 6. Jinn 7. Illusion 8. Modesty 9. Lucidity 10. Savia 11. Fortune 12. Snuff ( SLIPKNOT cover) 13. Lascivious 14. Lotus

“Atlantis” was recorded by David Castillo and Iñaki Marconi, mixed by Castillo , and mastered by Tony Lindgren . The performance was filmed and directed by George Layc**k from the bespoke British production house Blacktide Phonic/Visual .

“Atlantis” will be available as a DVD-CD with bonus footage, a double 12” limited edition vinyl, long form video, digital download and streaming. Pre-orders available HERE

The additional orchestral musicians and contributors on “Atlantis” are:

  • Stefan Stenberg: Double Bass
  • Joakim Simonsson: Piano and Organ
  • Karin Liljenberg: Violin 1
  • Andreas Forsman: Violin 2
  • Erik Holm: Viola
  • Cecilia Linné: Cello
  • Johanna Börjesson: Vocals
  • Therése Börjesson: Vocals

Technical support: Dan Wahlbeck Drum tech: Rickard Gustafsson Sound support: Niclas Lindström

With no sign of slowing down, the relentless metal quintet recently announced a twenty date North American Tour, kicking-off at Chicago’s Lincoln Hall; the tour will also see Soen perform as special guests of Katatonia in Dallas and Austin on December 6 and 7.

The North American dates follow shortly after the 2021 rescheduled Imperial European Tour that Soen postponed due to the restrictions surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic at the time. The European dates include the opportunity for an unforgettable and intimate evening with Soen at their sole premiere live acoustic show taking place at Zoetermeer’s De Boerderij on September 30. The band are excited to be on the road again and have added fourteen new dates in Europe and the United Kingdom.

“It’s a dream come true to finally be able to do an extensive North American tour,” enthuses Lopez . “It’s a milestone for any band to tour a continent with such a rich musical history and we are very excited about finally getting to meet our North American audience. See you all there!”

All purchased tickets remain valid for the rescheduled dates and tickets remain on-sale. Full list of confirmed dates, tickets, and additional information available HERE

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  • May 01 2024 Gothic Theatre Englewood, CO, USA Add time Add time
  • May 02 2024 Bourbon Theatre Lincoln, NE, USA Add time Add time
  • May 03 2024 The Forge This Setlist Joliet, IL, USA Add time Add time
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