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Set almost 100 years after Captain Kirk's 5-year mission, a new generation of Starfleet officers sets off in the U.S.S. Enterprise-D on its own mission to go where no one has gone before. Set almost 100 years after Captain Kirk's 5-year mission, a new generation of Starfleet officers sets off in the U.S.S. Enterprise-D on its own mission to go where no one has gone before. Set almost 100 years after Captain Kirk's 5-year mission, a new generation of Starfleet officers sets off in the U.S.S. Enterprise-D on its own mission to go where no one has gone before.

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• Trivia When the cast decided to lobby for a salary increase, Wil Wheaton 's first offer from the producers was to instead have his character promoted to Lieutenant. His response was, "So what should I tell my landlord when I can't pay my rent? 'Don't worry, I just made Lieutenant'?!"
• Goofs It is claimed that Data can't use contractions (Can't, Isn't, Don't, etc) yet there are several instances throughout the series where he does. One of the first such examples is heard in Encounter at Farpoint (1987) , where Data uses the word "Can't" while the Enterprise is being chased by Q's "ship".

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• Crazy credits The model of the Enterprise used in the opening credits is so detailed, a tiny figure can be seen walking past a window just before the vessel jumps to warp speed.
• Alternate versions The first and last episodes were originally broadcast as two-hour TV movies, and were later re-edited into two one-hour episodes each. Both edits involved removing some scenes from each episode.
• Connections Edited into Reading Rainbow: The Bionic Bunny Show (1988)

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WIRED Binge-Watching Guide: Star Trek: The Next Generation

If the original Star Trek proved that space was the final frontier, it also suggested that maybe it was a frontier too far for mainstream American television. It got canceled after just three years. Apparently, a lot can change in two decades: When Star Trek: The Next Generation debuted in 1987, it launched not only a series that would last for seven glorious seasons, but an era of television dominance for the franchise that would stretch out for decades to come.

We're here to fix that. If you're one of those folks whose never experienced the joys of Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart), Commander William T. Riker (Jonathan Frakes), Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge (LeVar Burton), and—yes—even Wesley Crusher (Wil Wheaton), now is the time to get familiar. Get ready to rock your very own "Shut up, Wesley" jokes—here's WIRED's binge-watching guide for Star Trek: The Next Generation .

Number of Seasons: 7 (178 episodes)

Time Requirements: If you watch a couple of episodes a day every day it'll take you just over three months. Sure, there are times where that might seem like a little bit too much, but Starfleet isn't for the weak-hearted.

Where to Get Your Fix: Netflix, Amazon Prime, Google Play, iTunes

Best Character to Follow: The answer to the question of which character you'll follow throughout the series' long run really depends on what you want from the show. Do you want the straightforward Star Trek experience? Then you should stick with Picard, the man in charge of this version of the Enterprise, or Lt. Commander Data (Brent Spiner), playing the Spock role in these proceedings. But perhaps you're looking for something a little more off-base. In that case, Riker provides both the self-aware over-the-top acting and a refusal to take the show too seriously that made the original so appealing. You also might also want to follow Counselor Deanna Troi (Marina Sirtis), who provides a horrifyingly clear lesson of the ways in which gender equality really hasn't reached the fictional 24th century just yet.

For our money, though, the best characters to follow are the recurring guests that pop up throughout the show's run: Chief Miles O'Brien (Colm Meaney), before he ships off to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , for example, or Ensign Ro Laren (Michelle Forbes). Hell, even following omnipotent know-it-all Q (John de Lancie) has its charms. But if you're looking to follow one of the regular cast no matter what, then it really has to be Lieutenant Worf (Michael Dorn). Not because he's the show's most interesting character (he's not), but because you can always tell roughly where in the series' run you are based upon the length of his hair, which slowly grows over the course of the whole thing.

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Seasons/Episodes You Can Skip:

The easiest, and shortest, way of putting this is "just avoid the first season altogether, and prepare to have a bumpy ride through the second, as well." The first year of The Next Generation is almost legendarily uneven, with more poor episodes than great ones, and some downright terrible ones thrown in for good measure. Things improve in the second year, but the show doesn't really hit a sustained run of good stuff until Season 3.

That said, if you're determined to watch as much of the show as possible, here are some episodes that you really will want to avoid.

Season 1: Episode 3, "Code of Honor" There's probably some way to describe this episode without using the phrase "a surprisingly racist piece of trash," but we're not going to waste time looking for it. Quite how nobody involved in this production realized they were making an episode wherein an all-black alien planet was depicted as tribal savages is baffling, but if only they had...

Season 1: Episode 8, "Justice" If ever there was an episode to make you convinced that the addition of a teenage Wil Wheaton to the cast was not the wisest of moves, this might be the one. Teenage wunderkind Wesley Crusher accidentally breaks the rules of an alien planet by crushing flowers and launches a diplomatic incident. Kids, amirite?

Season 1: Episode 14, "Angel One" Hey, here's a great idea: What if you tried to make a parable about the inhumanity of apartheid, but changed it from racism to sexism and then made the women the sexists? If your response is "that sounds like a terrible and potentially offensive idea," then congratulations: You're more farsighted than the people in charge of the first season of Star Trek: The Next Generation .

Season 2: Episode 18, "Up The Long Ladder" The Next Generation record when it comes to comedy is, admittedly, more than a little spotty, but no comedic episode is worse than this one, which has to have been created as the result of a dare along the lines of "I bet you can't create an episode based on space stereotypes about Irish people, who end up being the punchline to a joke about their need to keep breeding." Yes, it really is as bad as that sounds, amazingly.

Season 2: Episode 22, "Shades of Gray" Almost definitely the least favorite episode of Next Generation aficionados, "Shades of Gray" commits a cardinal sin for any television program: It's essentially a clip episode. Worse yet, it's the clip show that finished off the show's second season. Based on the tackiness of this, it's impressive that this show returned for Season 3 at all, never mind doing so in such a strong manner creatively.

Seasons/Episodes You Can't Skip:

The strange truth about Star Trek: The Next Generation 's appeal is that, once it hits its stride in the third season, it's remarkably consistent throughout the rest of the series. What that means in practice is that, once you reach the third season, you pretty much know what you're going to get for the next five years' worth of programming, for better or worse. That said, there are still some peaks to be found in there, like these episodes.

Season 3: Episode 26 and Season 4: Episode 1, "The Best of Both Worlds"/"The Best of Both Worlds Part II" The first of the show's big season-finale/season-opener two-parters, and easily the best, "The Best of Both Worlds" brought the crew of the Enterprise against an unstoppable foe and... watched as they lost. Or, at least, that's how things got started; the second half offers a far more satisfying climax that suggests resistance may not be entirely futile after all.

Season 4: Episode 5, "Remember Me" One of the things that later-era Next Generation did particularly well was do-over high-concept episodes: ones that seemed to be based around one big idea, only to slowly let on that something else is happening after all. "Remember Me," which opens with members of the crew disappearing one by one with no one remembering them except for Crusher, is one of the best.

Season 4: Episode 24, "The Mind's Eye" Sure, the idea of "What if one of our heroes got brainwashed by the bad guys?" sounds like it's something you've seen before, but this episode manages to play everything just right and create a surprisingly unsettling psychological drama in the process. Geordi, you always seemed so nice before...!

Season 5: Episode 2, "Darmok" Based around a suitably high-brow idea (communicating with aliens who can only speak through metaphor), what makes "Darmok" so engaging are the performances of Stewart and guest star Paul Winfield as the two stuck trying to bridge the language gap. For those who aren't into that kind of thing, there's always the first on-screen appearance of Ashley Judd, playing Wheaton's on-screen love interest. (Let that sink in. We'll wait.)

Season 5: Episode 24, "The Next Phase" For a character so often in the background of stories, La Forge certainly got some great spotlight episodes to show off his chops. In "The Next Phase," he gets to see his own funeral after an accident is believed to have killed some of the Enterprise crew—except that they're actually still alive, but invisible and intangible to everyone around them. (Yes, the use of "phase" in the title is a pun.)

Season 6: Episode 4, "Relics" A handful of faces from the original Star Trek showed up in this second series from the franchise, but none so effectively as James Doohan, playing Scotty as a man literally out of time and unsure about his place in the universe. Both funny and touching, this episode—written by Ron Moore, who'd go on to run Battlestar Galactica years later—is a charming celebration of Star Trek as a whole, and the differences between the original series and Next Generation at the same time.

Season 6: Episodes 10 and 11, "Chain of Command, Parts I & II" Picard gets tortured and interrogated behind enemy lines and his replacement decides that the Enterprise crew has been far too relaxed in its behavior until now. Next Generation might have been a serious show, but it was rarely a dark one—which makes this two-parter a welcome break from the norm and far more effective as a result.

Season 6: Episode 12, "Ship in a Bottle" Another fun episode that isn't all that it appears to be, "Ship in a Bottle" is probably the best of the series' Holodeck episodes, exploring the limits (and lack of limits, from a certain perspective) of the show's virtual reality playroom in a way that went beyond the "our characters play dress up" method it traditionally opted for. What is reality, anyway...?

Season 7: Episode 15, "Lower Decks" After six-and-a-half seasons of showing what the upper echelon of Enterprise staff gets up to, "Lower Deck" flipped things up and gave us an adventure as seen by the grunts: the ones who don't really know what's going on. For those looking for an episode in which everything is explained away easily and ends happily, this isn't going to do it for them, but if you've been wanting more of an idea of how the Enterprise works, then this really is a pretty good place to go.

Season 7: Episodes 25 and 26, "All Good Things..." The show’s final episode (a two-parter) is, impressively, one of its strongest, looking back at the earliest days of the series as well as the far-future of the characters while simultaneously retroactively imposing a structure and coherence on the last seven years that hadn't been there before. Part fan-service, part nostalgiafest and part solid episode, All Good Things..." let the show go out on top. It's something that, let's be honest, is a rarity for most shows that go on this long.

(For those who are continuity-conscious, you can't skip "Encounter at Farpoint" (Season 1, Episode 1) or "Skin of Evil" (Season 1, Episode 23) and "Q Who" (Season 2, Episode 16), either. Also, way back in 2012 , WIRED readers picked their own favorite episodes, so check that list out as well.)

Why You Should Binge:

After a rough start, Star Trek: The Next Generation proved to be a worthy successor to the original show, eschewing Star Wars -esque action and escapades in favor of television that tried to be thought-provoking and entertaining in a more cerebral manner. In the process, it became a phenomenon that didn't just set the tone for the next three Star Trek shows, but also for a lot of science fiction that followed for the next decade or so. There's a lot to enjoy in this series, and enough of it to find yourself getting sucked into the minutiae in the best ways. Before too long, you too will find yourself believing that the only way to order tea is to demand "Earl Grey, hot," and be unable to rise from a chair without self-consciously tugging down your sweater.

Best Scene—"I Am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is Futile"

The first half of the "Best of Both Worlds" two-parter has a great cliffhanger that the show never quite lived up to ever again: The Captain of the ship has been kidnapped and turned into one of the emotionless enemy, and his second-in-command has given the order to fire! How could anything be the same again after this? (Spoilers: They find a way.)

The Takeaway:

Binge-watching a show that defined the childhood of so many nerds and ne'er-do-wells? Make it so.

If You liked Star Trek: The Next Generation You'll Love:

Both of the Next Generation spin-off shows, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager play with the core DNA of the show in different ways and come up with twists on the formula. Just remember that, while the show inspired a raft of sci-fi shows in the early '90s, none of them are worth your time or attention. No, not even SeaQuest DSV . Trust us on this.

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When it comes to Star Trek, fans have strong opinions. Here are some unpopular opinions fans hold about The Next Generation.

When it comes to Star Trek , fans have strong opinions. Some prefer Star Trek: The Original Series, while others love Star Trek: The Next Generation . The late 1980’s and early ‘90s series takes place 78 years after the original series, featuring a better USS Enterprise with a mature, likable Captain Jean-Luc Picard ( played by Patrick Stewart ).

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Many fans love everything about the show. It’s their favorite and they have nothing to complain about, while others have unpopular opinions that they might be afraid to admit to other fans, including these 10 shared on Reddit. The opinions boldly go where no one has gone before.

Data Is The Worst Part Of The Show

To some fans, Data (Brent Spiner) is one of the best characters on Star Trek: The Next Generation. However, to others, he’s the worst part of the show. As the Lieutenant Commander of the USS Enterprise, he’s actually an android who has a unique perspective on humanity. He is almost a parody of Spock (Leonard Nimoy) in the original Star Trek series.

According to perscitia , Data is the worst character on the show. He has boring storylines, including when he wants to become a human, and Spiner’s acting is cringeworthy.

Wesley Crusher Is Awesome

Star Trek fans have mixed opinions about Wesley Crusher ( played by Wil Wheaton ). As Doctor Beverly Crusher’s son, Wesley is a semi-regular character and he later attends Starfleet Academy. To some fans, he’s insufferable, but to others (including SabrinaFaire ), he’s a great character.

For teenagers who watched the show during its original run, they related to Wesley. He was just like them, and they appreciated his intelligence. They cheered for him when he later received a field commission to ensign.

None Of The Movies Are Good

The main characters in The Next Generation returned in four movies : Star Trek: Generations (1994), Star Trek: First Contact (1996), Star Trek: Insurrection (1998), and Star Trek: Nemesis (2002). For the most part, fans enjoyed the movies because they love anything associated with The Next Generation.

However, Trekky0623 admitted that they aren’t good, including First Contact. The movies might have cool special effects, but they have lackluster storylines, and the characters seem unrealistic. They're mediocre science-fiction adventure movies.

The First Season Is Good

For the most part, fans don’t like the first season of The Next Generation. It has poor writing and some bizarre storylines. The first few episodes are hard to watch.

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A minority group of fans, including ThatGuysNewAccount , actually enjoy the first season. According to the Reddit user, it’s “really neat.” The show is finding its footing and it has new concepts that were not a part of The Original Series.

Lack Of Character Development

One of the biggest flaws of The Next Generation is its lack of character development. As chiree explains, “ Star Trek: Generations did more to develop Picard’s arc in the first 20 minutes than they did the previous seven years [of the show].”

Some Star Trek fans agreed with the Reddit user, elaborating that while the show is very cerebral, it is not very character-driven. The only characters who grow during the show’s seven seasons are Data and the Klingon Worf (Michael Dorn), and even they received minimal development.

The Klingons Are Rubbish

In the Star Trek franchise, the Klingons are humanoids, and they were originally created as antagonists in The Original Series. However, in The Next Generation, the Klingons become close allies for humanity, especially Worf. They’re fan favorites, but not everyone likes them.

This includes the Reddit user J-M-McNamara , who says the Klingons are rubbish. They’re terrible fighters and they don’t have any martial prowess. They were tolerable in The Original Series, but they became worse and more boring throughout the seven seasons of The Next Generation. Essentially, they should not have been featured predominantly.

Pulaski Was A Better Doctor Than Crusher

Doctor Beverly Crusher (Gates McFadden) is the USS Enterprise’s chief medical officer in the first season, and then she was replaced by Doctor Katherine Pulaski (Diana Muldaur) for the second season. Crusher returned to the show for the third season. Some fans like her, but others found her character interactions off-putting.

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That’s why some fans prefer Pulaski, including Reddit user sev1nk . She was a better character. Other users argued that Crusher shouldn't be so harshly criticized, but everyone has to have their favorite characters.

The USS Enterprise Hasn’t Aged Well

According to kurburux , the USS Enterprise on The Next Generation has aged poorly. The colors, artificial wood panels, lights, and chairs are stuck in the 1980s.

In addition, the main engine room is strange where the characters only use one computer table. Nothing is operated with or around the warp core. The USS Enterprise is dated, and that’s unfortunate since The Next Generation is set during the 24th century.

Some Of The Characters Aren't Great

Mostly every Star Trek fan loves The Next Generation. However, some fans dislike several of the show's characters. As the Reddit user Sleepy_Spider explains, Geordi La Forge (played by LeVar Burton) has boundary issues. Doctor Crusher and Wesley are the least interesting characters.

In addition, Lwaxana Troi (Majel Barrett) is a horribly written character, even though Barrett delivered a great acting performance. Finally, while Worf is an interesting character with some funny dialogue, he doesn’t fit the show and he is sometimes prejudiced towards people of other races.

Picard Is A Bad Captain

If one were to ask Star Trek fans to name their favorite thing about The Next Generation, they would most likely agree that Captain Picard is the best character. He is a likable character, and the show wouldn’t be the same without him, but not everyone agrees with this.

The Reddit user Sneezyowl argues that Picard is a bad captain. This might be the most unpopular opinion about the show. According to the Reddit user, Picard is terrible with children, his romantic relationships, and he has aggression issues. The Reddit user adds that Picard’s best moments are when side characters point out his flaws. However, these flaws are never resolved. He might be a great character to study, but he’s “a shell of a man.”

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Star Trek: The Next Generation: The Complete Series Reissued On Blu-ray Disc

Star Trek: The Next Generation: The Complete Series on Blu-ray Disc has been reissued for release on Sept. 20, 2022. This 41-disc set from Paramount includes all seven seasons of the show that ran from 1987 to 1994 on CBS. Total run time is approximately 8,076 minutes.

Episodes are presented in 1080p (HD) at 1.33:1 aspect ratio. The audio is provided in 24-bit English DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 channels with subtitles in multiple languages that include English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Spanish, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, Norwegian, and Swedish.

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Whatever Happened To Jennifer Hetrick, ‘Vash’ From Star Trek: The Next Generation?

By Nick Lee | September 6, 2023

In the vast cosmos of the Star Trek universe, many characters have come and gone, leaving indelible marks on the hearts of Trekkies worldwide.

Among these iconic figures stands Vash, portrayed by the talented Jennifer Hetrick. With her fiery spirit and adventurous nature, Vash quickly became a fan favorite, especially for her intriguing relationship with Captain Jean-Luc Picard.

But as the years have passed, one question lingers in the minds of many: Whatever happened to Jennifer Hetrick after her Star Trek days?

Join us as we embark on a journey through time and space, unraveling the mysteries surrounding the life and career of this beloved actress.

Acting Career

Squeeze play.

Hetrick’s first film role marked the beginning of her acting career with 1979’s Squeeze Play!, a comedy directed by Lloyd Kaufman. The story revolves around a group of women who, after becoming frustrated with their boyfriends who prioritize sports over romance, decide to create a softball team of their own and challenge them to a game.

The film received universally negative reviews.

In 1989, Hetrick landed a main cast role on NBC’s crime drama Unsub, a portmanteau of “unknown” and “subject.” She played Ann Madison, member of an elite FBI forensic team, for all 8 episodes of the show’s run. It was unfortunately canceled after only one season.

Following her stint on Unsub, Hetrick continued on to feature as a recurring character on NBC’s legal drama L.A. Law between 1989 and 1991. Her character, Corinne Hammond Becker, appeared in 14 episodes during a storyline that involved a divorce proceeding, and she disappeared after the plot concluded.

Star Trek: The Next Generation

In 1990, Hetrick would play Vash, a human archeologist known for shady business dealings and selling of priceless artifacts for profit, on Star Trek: The Next Generation. Picard is initially unaware of her duplicitous nature during Vash’s premiere episode, “Captain’s Holiday”, and so the two enjoy a romance while Vash simultaneously uses Picard to push her own hidden agenda.

Although the two part ways, they meet again in 1991 episode “Qpid” when the seemingly omnipotent alien entity Q places them in a Robinhood fantasy together. Q then tasks a Robinhood-donned Picard to rescue Vash’s Maid Marien before she faces certain doom. 

When Picard succeeds in his rescue, the two rekindle their romance once more before Vash chooses to join Q in his travels through the universe. This is the last we see of Vash on The Next Generation.

Fans generally did not care for Vash’s character and felt Picard, a self-identified morally upright man, should have comported himself with more dignity than to fall for the wiles of a charmer and thief. However, Hetrick was kindling a real-life romance with Picard actor Patrick Stewart, and the two were engaged at the time “Qpid” was filmed.

Just as with Picard and Vash, Hetrick and Stewart parted ways before long. The engagement did not conclude in a marriage.

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

In 1993, Hetrick made an appearance in season one of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, reprising her role as Vash. The episode brings Vash aboard the titular space station to reveal that her partnership with Q has dissolved. However, Q appears before long in an attempt to woo her back.

What ensues is a competition for Vash’s attention between Q, Dr. Bashir, and Quark. Whereas Q and Bashir wish for the pleasure of her company, Quark recognizes her undeniable charm and proficiency for selling priceless goods.

At the end of the episode, Quark convinces Vash to continue with her business using Quark as a partner and financial backer for her operation. Vash agrees to the terms, but is never seen on-screen again.

Bodies of Evidence

Between 1992 and 1993, Hetrick portrayed Bonnie Caroll, wife of main character Lieutenant Ben Carroll, on the CBS police drama series Bodies of Evidence alongside Lee Horsely, George Clooney, and Kate McNeil.

Hetrick appeared on 4 of the series’ 16 total episodes. It was canceled after two seasons.

The X-Files

In 1996, Hetrick appeared on an episode of The X-Files as Sharon Skinner, wife of assistant FBI director Walter Skinner, in an episode entitled “Avatar”. During the episode, she serves Walter with divorce papers leading to him having a one night stand with a stranger. When the stranger winds up dead in the morning, Scully and Mulder investigate the unusual circumstances.

Hetrick appears in various scenes in the episode. While her character survives the episode, including a car crash that lands her in a coma, she is never seen on the show again.

In 1995, Hetrick played Caroline Fontaine on an episode of Sliders called “Last Days”. Hetrick would appear on the show once more in 2000, but as a separate character entirely. Her second appearance was as Claire LeBeau in an episode entitled “The Seer”.

Other TV Appearances

Hetrick went on to appear on numerous TV shows including Alias, Criminal Minds, NCIS, Cold Case, Prison Break, 24, and Raising the Bar.

What is Jennifer Hetrick doing now?

Jennifer Hetrick remains an actress, although her last appearance was in 2018 on an episode of CBS medical drama Code Black. Hetrick has returned to filming TV commercials as well, including a 2018 ad for Prolia alongside Blythe Danner.

In recent years, Hetrick has taken a step back from mainstream Hollywood, focusing on smaller projects and personal pursuits. She’s been involved in community theater and has also explored other artistic avenues, including writing.

Relationships and Family Life

While Jennifer Hetrick’s romance with actor Patrick Stewart fizzled before tying the knot, Hetrick went on and married someone else. However, she has not shared details of her husband, including his name or occupation.

The two have one child– a daughter named Lilly.

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Voyager v.s. The Next Generation and Deep Space 9

Discussion in ' Star Trek: Voyager ' started by Nine of Four , Sep 1, 2013 .

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I've heard a lot of people say Voyager is the worst of the three, one of the worst series. But I've also heard a lot of people say Voyager is the best series EVER. I'd like to settle it right now.  

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Nine of Four said: ↑ I'd like to settle it right now. Click to expand...

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I've said it before and I'll say it again; I think anyone who thinks Voyager is clearly better is looking at the others (TNG in particular) through rose colored glasses and voyager through darker colored glasses. Voyager felt far too much to me like "The little ship that could" during its premier, but now that its almost 20 years since the series launched and I've seen it in rerun a whole bunch of times now (and rewatch the series about once a year), I've really come to realize its written a lot better then I gave it credit for in premier and I think a lot of fans are the same way. Truthfully, the lessons the writers, producers and directors learned in TNG and DS9 culminated in Voyager and started to towards the end of Enterprise. If Enterprise didn't get cut off in its prime, I think it would have easily been recognized as the best Star Trek series; that simply demonstrates each series has gotten progressively better.  

F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

In the past couple of years I've rewatched TOS, VOY and ENT. For the most part, I've enjoyed myself. Up next was TNG - but I couldn't make it. The show has aged terribly . The acting and direction is poor (the direction is so awful, they literally stand around taking turns to recite lines), the morals are trite and the action is next to nonexistent. Deep Space Nine was the first series I got on DVD, and I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch it. Therefore - Voyager wins.  

Lucky Captain Captain

Had to vote against Voyager. I like it, but as far as I'm concerned it is the worst Star Trek series.  

Tosk Admiral Admiral

The poll doesn't specify whether you're supposed to vote for worst or best.  

DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

^Indeed. Anyway, TNG vs. VOY might be interesting, but DS9 is, for me, better than either one.  

And lumping TNG and DS9 together skews the results regardless of what the question is supposed to be.  

MacLeod Admiral Admiral

Agreed, the poll should also include TOS and ENT and be in the general Trek sub-forum. As some people might not venture into the VOY sub-forum further skewing the results.  

dauntless Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

TNG for me. I personally believe that DS9 is the worst of the three - wooden acting being the biggest issue.  

DS9 started out all right, but all the obsession with space battle scenes is not what I watch Star Trek for. If I wanted big space battles, I'd watch Star Wars (and I don't mean that guy with the threads).  

(blinks) Obsession with space battle scenes? Beyond a certain point, the series was portraying a war between two major powers. Battles were inevitably going to occur, and I believe they're in the minority of episodes. Anyway, sorry if the show wasn't to your liking.  

MacLeod said: ↑ Agreed, the poll should also include TOS and ENT and be in the general Trek sub-forum. As some people might not venture into the VOY sub-forum further skewing the results. Click to expand...

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TOS>TNG>ENT>VOY>DS9  

Amusingly I can't tell whether that's intended to be worst-best or best-worst.  

DonIago said: ↑ (blinks) Obsession with space battle scenes? Beyond a certain point, the series was portraying a war between two major powers. Battles were inevitably going to occur, and I believe they're in the minority of episodes. Anyway, sorry if the show wasn't to your liking. Click to expand...

DonIago said: ↑ Amusingly I can't tell whether that's intended to be worst-best or best-worst. Click to expand...

Bry_Sinclair Vice Admiral Admiral

DS9 beat VOY in stories, characters, development and overall feel. They had great arcs, plenty of storylines that crossed each season and were revisited, rich and interesting main characters and brilliant recurring ones too. VOY had some good moments but it never hit what it could've been, it never had a sense of isolation and desperation that a ship lost 70 years from home would have had, whilst the premise itself kinda demands the need for some sense of serialisation. Add to that some wishy-washy characters who didn't really go anywhere and the fact that most were ignored for a pair of bionic boobs in the matter half of the show. That compared to the combined might of TNG/DS9 and it doesn't stand a chance.  

Akiraprise To Ꝏ & BEYOND! Moderator

Voyager remains my favorite. Although I like all of the series. Any Star Trek is better than no Star Trek. I never really got into DS9 first run thanks to the network that was showing it butchering the schedule. I missed huge chunks of the ongoing arcs thanks to sports preemptions all of the time. TNG is good, despite the first two seasons looking bad from today's standards. The stories still hold true. ENT's first two seasons were mediocre at best, the last two were pretty sweet. TOS is TOS, it started it all. But I have a soft spot for VOY. It was showing when I was going through high school and I really looked forward to watching it week after week. It was the Trek I grew up with and it aired at a time when spoilers were pretty much nonexistent for me. I did not know of any behind the scenes stuff. I just liked the characters, the ship, the premise, Seven of Nine...  

Bad Thoughts Vice Admiral Admiral

Although it's not my favorite Trek series (I don't often have a hankering to rewatch episodes the way I do with even Enterprise), I think Voyager gets unfairly maligned as TOS part 3. It's a little too easy to point to single episodes and say, "that's why Voyager was so bad," as if the other series didn't have their crewmembers transforms in strange ways. I do think the show went too many times to the well with the Borg, diluting one of the franchise's more powerful storytelling tools. On the other hand, I think that the first two seasons are more assured than the other series. Although the Kazon could seem to be derivative and unbelievable in their incompetence, they were certainly the right size for villains for the ship. Indeed, if the story had remained in the Alpha Quadrant, Janeway et al would not be taking on the same tasks as Picard. It's missions would be smaller in scale, and the villains would need to be downsized appropriately (unless, of couse, the ship became involved in the Dominion War). Of all the little things that could have been done to improve the show (like not focusing on three characters and pissing off the rest of the cast), there's really only one thing I think would have drastically improved the show: that Mulgrew was invested in Janeway the same way Brooks was invested in Sisko, putting forth not just a de facto vision of a women in charge, but making the character a focus of commentary on femininity and authority. (I'm sure people will disagree with the assessment.) BTW, I didn't vote in the poll--too simple.  

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Alex Kurtzman Hopes Shorter Seasons Are Better for Star Trek

Star trek 's streaming age renaissance has come with a lot fewer episodes than the old shows—but its architect thinks that that's ultimately for the best..

There’s more Star Trek around right now than there has been since its ‘90s heyday, but there’s not exactly all that much of it in comparison. The franchise’s resurgence in the age of streaming has meant condensed seasons—these days, the average season is often half the size (or less) of one from the broadcast era. But the man behind Trek ’s TV renaissance thinks that that might be a good thing overall.

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The concept of what is and isn’t “filler” in a show these days has evolved, as the term has grown from describing any kind of standalone story separate from advancing an overarching narrative to, in a world where content is king, anything that doesn’t add to the canon in any kind of way. But classic Star Trek , which made its success away from the idea of serialized television, is built on the back of what people would now consider “filler”—stories that do not set the stage for future events, could more often than not be watched with almost zero context about the rest of the show, and are often peppered with fascinating ideas and great character work. The opportunity for those moments is still there in modern Star Trek ( Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks in particular have made the case for adopting an approach where more standalone storytelling co-exists with overarching narratives, and for the most part, made a great deal of success with it) but its reduction to what is now a standard 10-episode count every season makes those opportunities fleeting—something Star Trek architect Alex Kurtzman sees as a strength.

“I think what’s lovely about that is—it’s funny, you can talk to old writers of old Trek series, and they’re like, ‘Man, there’s a bunch of filler episodes in there. We are just trying to get to 22 a season,’ and we all know which of those episodes were [filler episodes],” Kurtzman recently told Cinemablend . “We know the ones that were truly stellar from the ones that felt like they were kind of spinning their wheels. And so I think what 10 episodes a season forces you to do is really make sure that every story counts as much as it possibly can. And I like that, I like what that affords us now.”

Of course, Kurtzman doesn’t exactly set how many episodes a show gets a season—that’s both a Paramount decision and also increasingly just what’s become standard in non-procedural television—so it’s not like he’s going to turn around and blast that modern Star Trek doesn’t get enough time to tell the stories it wants to. It’s also just the reality of making a show that costs as much as contemporary Trek does, to look the way it does, and the amount of time to shoot those episodes makes it so that 22-part seasons become much less feasible. TV viewing habits have changed as much as the way it’s made has—something Kurtzman further acknowledged in the miracle that Discovery got five seasons (“short” by ‘90s Trek standards, where TNG , DS9 , and Voyager ran for seven), in a world where a lot of streaming original series barely make it past two. “I think most people watch two seasons of a streaming show, and they check out, you know, and that’s not specific to Trek ,” he added. “I just think that’s the watch pattern for television in the streaming world.”

TV’s changed, and so has Star Trek —and while that might mean there’s less chances for the series to experiment or tell isolated stories, it doesn’t mean those opportunities have vanished altogether.

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George Takei releases children’s book “My Lost Freedom”

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George Takei shares his experiences at an Arkansas incarceration camp during WWII with water-colored illustrations of barbed wires and armed soldiers, in his new children’s book My Lost Freedom .

The Star Trek actor, activist, and author wanted to help children understand his experiences as a Japanese American during a time of adversity and discrimination, KARK reports.

“I looked back at my own memories to help children today understand what it feels like to be treated as an enemy by your own country,” Takei said in an Instagram post . “This is a story of my family’s courage and the important of staying true to yourself in the face of injustice.”

Two months after the Pearl Harbor bombing, Takei (4) and his family were forced to leave their home in California.

“Americans saw us as the enemy simply because we looked like the people who did the bombing,” Takei wrote in his book.

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According to Penguin Random House , him and his family would move around between three different camps, Santa Anita, Camp Rohwer, and Tule Lake. The Takei family, alongside the other 120,000 Japanese Americans sent to camps endured poor living conditions and unjust treatment.

“The generation that went through that experience were so wounded by it and also felt so ashamed by it, which is actually not their shame,” Takei said. “The shame is that of the governments because they’re the ones that acted in such an irrational and cruel undemocratic way.”

After four years in camp, when World War II the Japanese Americans were released. Each prisoner was given $25 and one-way ticket to the U.S. destination of their choice. The Takeis, with nothing, returned to Los Angeles and started over.

When they returned home, Takei wanted to talk about their experiences, People reports. Takei said that him and his parents “had many after-dinner conversations.”

And, now, Takei hopes to continue these conversations for generations to come. In his book, he writes for children ages 6 through 9. Targeting this age group, he is able to educate and reach more people.

“My Lost Freedom tells a very elementary story, but maybe even on that elementary level, it puts the curiosity of daddy and mom to learn a little more about it,” Takei said. “And for their children, they are introduced to that story.”

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‘oldboy’ tv series in the works from filmmaker park chan-wook.

Lionsgate TV is partnering with the Korean filmmaker for a TV series adaptation of the acclaimed film.

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Korean filmmaker Park Chan-wook is partnering with Lionsgate Television to develop a series version of his 2003 revenge thriller Oldboy .

The project would be an English-language adaptation of the story, which was loosely based on a magna with the same name.

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“Park is one of the most visionary storytellers of our generation, and we’re excited to partner with him in bringing his cinematic masterpiece to the television screen,” added Scott Herbst, EVP and Head of Scripted Development, Lionsgate Television. “This series adaptation of  Oldboy  will feature   the raw emotional power, iconic fight scenes and visceral style that made the film a classic.”

Oldboy , which Park directed and co-wrote, follows a man who is kept in prison for 15 years without knowing why he was imprisoned or by whom and, upon his release, must find his captor in five days. The film is part of Park’s  Vengeance  trilogy, which includes  Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance  and  Sympathy for Lady Vengeance .

Oldboy was previously adapted into a 2013 English-language film directed by Spike Lee and starring Josh Brolin.

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