kbs tour v vs c taper

Which KBS iron shaft is best for you?

Published: 22 September 2022 Last updated: 17 January 2024

KBS iron shafts are for everyone from the world’s best golfers to slow-swinging amateurs, but which of their 14 models best suits you? Let us explain…

Golfers rarely give a second thought to which shafts are in a new set of irons . Yet, KBS believe 14 different models (all of which come in numerous weights and flexes) are needed to cover all types of players.

Technology has taught the brains behind KBS – Kim Braly, if he’s to fit hard-hitting tour pros alongside moderate speed, high handicap amateurs the brand needs a vast array of options. The thinking has led to the creation of 14 different steel and graphite KBS iron models.

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We don’t want to fit you for your perfect iron shaft. That should only ever be done with the help of a decent club fitter in the real world. But, to highlight how shaft technology helps you hit better iron shots more often we’ve taken a look at the full KBS line-up.

When buying your next set remember KBS shafts can change how a shaft feels, launches and spins, so you have the opportunity to choose your perfect ball flight and set-up. Here’s what you need to know about KBS iron shafts.

Players’ models  

Kbs c-taper iron shaft.

There are three-pillar players’ shafts within the KBS line-up and each differs by balance point. The Tour is stiffest in the grip section (for good feel) and it gives mid-launch and mid-spin. The C-Taper is stiffest in the tip section (close to the head) to give a stout and strong feel and deliver low launch with low spin. The S-Taper fits neatly between the pair.

C stands for Constant Taper, so the shaft has no steps, which allows the C-Taper to have a strong and stout feel. Typically the model suits stronger golfers, and players can expect a 5% lower ball flight than True Temper’s Dynamic Gold . Major winners Gary Woodland and Justin Rose have played the C-Taper as has Rickie Fowler .

KBS $-Taper iron shaft

All three KBS pillar players’ iron shafts come in the same five weights, so golfers get to choose based on the launch, spin, and ball flight desired for their own game.

Half flexes (R+ and S+) are brilliant for golfers that sit on the fence between two flexes. They alleviate decisions around whether to go regular flex for more distance or stiff for increased accuracy. The S-Taper (Subtle Taper) is midway between the C-Taper (lowest spin and launch) and Tour shaft (mid-spin and launch).

KBS Tour iron shaft

The Tour is Kim Braly’s signature shaft, it was the first KBS model and it’s the mothership of KBS. Thanks to not being overly strong the Tour can suit a wide audience of golfers. Its consistent step pattern is a good fit for smoother, less aggressive transition players.

Thanks to being a high balance point model (so weight is positioned closer to the grip), golfers get a slightly softer feel and good feedback at the top of the swing. A further Tour FLT (Flighted) shaft model launches long irons higher and short irons lower for a more optimised set.

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How KBS players’ steel shafts differ in launch and spin

KBS Tour V iron shaft

KBS see the Tour V as an outlier shaft because the model is 10g lighter than the C-Taper, $-Taper, and Tour.

KBS Tour Rep Paul Steels says “the Tour V shaft is often a good fit for players who like the shot shape and flight of the C-Taper but want extra feel, as the C-Taper is just so boardy”.

KBS C-Taper Lite, $-Taper Lite, and Tour Lite iron shafts

There’s lots of misunderstanding around lighter iron shafts. But KBS say golfers should see their Lite models (which are 15g lighter than the standard models) as giving a little more launch and being easier to get airborne (than the 3 pillar models).

For players who don’t go at iron shots full tilt Lite models can be a really good option as club speeds increase and shots launch higher. Lite models and aging typically go hand-in-hand. If you happen to overload the shaft you’ll know because shots will start turning over left of the target (for a right-handed golfer).

Also, think about launch windows. A strong but very low launch player could see benefits by going Lite but in a strong flex to up launch and ball flight.  

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KBS iron shaft swing speed recommendations

Average speed KBS iron shaft models

Kbs max and max ct80 iron shafts.

To ensure KBS have shafts to suit every golfer’s speed they produce ultralight Max and Max CT80 shafts as well. Both Max shafts are high-launch, high-spin models which help optimise ball flight for maximum carry distance at moderate speeds.

Remember it’s possible to be a fast but inconsistent high handicapper (in which case you’d be better suited to one of the KBS players’ shaft models), so think about shafts suiting speeds rather than ability. Thanks to their low kick point and high launch properties the Max shafts regularly make an appearance in stronger lofted irons (think TaylorMade Stealth and Callaway Big Bertha B21 ).

Typically high-speed players, irrespective of ability will not touch this product.

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There are junior options too   

To ensure golfers can go through their whole golfing career with a familiar KBS feel, the brand also produce two junior steel shafts (the 560 and 580). Both are designed to suit the speed of 8 – 11-year-old players.

Both shafts are lightened steel, so the weights are similar to lightweight graphite iron ranges. But, crucially golfers don’t get a heavy head feel which can cause issues when switching from graphite to steel once a child is a stronger teenager.   

When should you go graphite?

Graphite irons shafts are massively misunderstood in the modern game. Many people think they’re for older golfers and slower speed players, which just isn’t the case. Graphite irons shafts are easier on the body. They remove vibration, and can suit everyone from tour players to very moderate speed club golfers.

In typical KBS fashion, the brand make three graphite models (all are available in numerous weights and flexes), here’s what you need to know about them.

How KBS graphite iron shafts differ in launch and spin

KBS TGI – Tour Graphite Iron shaft

KBS specifically target a steel-like feel from their graphite shafts. They’ve done such a good job fulfilling their brief several tour players swear it’s not actually graphite. Thinking instead it’s a steel shaft painted black.

The TGI can be matched to golfers’ speeds (there are eight weights, so the model can suit from 57mph to 100mph speed players) in exactly the same way as the brand’s steel shafts. The TGI is the company’s lowest launching and spinning graphite iron shaft, it’s pretty strong and stout, so decent players often like it.

KBS PGI – Players Graphite Iron shaft

In developing their shafts KBS have undertaken masses of research, and they say when the flex isn’t disclosed golfers often prefer the feel of graphite over steel. Their advice is to play the flex you need. Don’t be tempted to go stiffer than necessary. And if you swing a 6-iron at 70mph play a shaft that performs at that speed.

The PGI was developed to bring a steel-like feel to graphite and it’s a step up from the lower launching and spinning TGI. The PGI is widely played on the LPGA Tour, it’s the brand’s mid-launch/mid-spin graphite iron shaft. Six weights mean the model can suit from 57mph to 94mph players.

KBS Max graphite iron shaft   

The Max graphite is the highest launching and spinning graphite iron shaft in the KBS line-up. It’s a model for golfers who really need help launching shots high into the air to maximise carry distance. Five weights mean the model can suit swing speeds from 51 to 82mph.

KBS graphite iron shaft swing speed recommendations

Get it right the first time

KBS reckon so long as golfers get fitted correctly the first time they can progress through KBS models throughout their playing career. It means, if like Gary Woodland you’re a C-Taper player or Cameron Smith a Tour shaft player you stay within that family but progress to lighter models as you age.

And to demonstrate how important finding the right family is KBS say to look at Adam Scott and Gary Woodland . Scott has been a Tour shaft player for years (think of his smooth, under-control swing) whereas Woodland is a big strong hitter of the ball, so he’s a C-Taper guy all day long. But, switch their clubs over and both would struggle to play, as they wouldn’t get the ball flight or shot window they’d be expecting.    

Don’t forget your wedges

Today KBS are a through-the-bag shaft company. They make shafts for drivers, fairways, hybrids, irons, wedges, and putters, so if you’re taking the time to get fitted don’t neglect how the company produce five different wedges shafts too.

KBS say the Hi-Rev wedge shaft has been designed from the Tour shaft profile. There’s a lengthened tip section to give a softer feel and generate extra spin. If you play the Tour shaft you’ll likely enjoy this wedge model too. The brand’s 610 wedge shaft was designed to complement the Tour V shaft.

Where C-Taper and S-Taper fans often run shafts from their irons through into the wedges, albeit at a slightly lighter weight as wedge shots are rarely hit full out.

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How do KBS iron shafts compare in data?

Verdict: KBS iron shafts

Lots of people will look at our test pro’s data and think the shafts are performing very much alike. But the data says nothing about how different the shafts felt.

Comparing the C-Taper and S-Taper the data shows the pair as being pretty evenly matched but the difference in feel was phenomenal. So different in fact our test pro felt he just wouldn’t be able to use the C-Taper effectively on the golf course (as it’s so strong). Where the $-Taper felt brilliant and could well be his perfect match within the KBS family.

The Lite shafts produced a faster ball speed, just as KBS promised and the C-Taper Lite in particular launched and flighted shots higher with a steeper descent angle, so there’s a huge amount of tuning in ball flight and feel available from shafts.

Just as KBS promised the TGI graphite shaft produced some very good optimal numbers too, they’d be a very sensible choice for golfers looking to avoid the shock and vibration of using steel shafts. Equally the Max graphite climbed to its peak height very early in its flight, which at lower speeds will be a real benefit in maximising carry distance.   

At the end of the day, KBS are all about the consumer. You get what you want, whether that be higher or lower launching, more or less spin, or a different feel, everything is on offer within the KBS iron family. Our test pro liked the $-Taper for his own game as it didn’t feel too strong, yet it felt stable and produced a good feel through the hands, and he had control over his ball flight.

KBS Founder Kim Braly on a life spend designing golf shafts

Many golfers won’t know the name Kim Braly, but the guy is a shaft legend. He has dedicated his life to creating the highest performance shafts you can buy, and we sat down with him. 

How have shafts evolved over the last 150 years?

A hundred of those years were dominated by hickory shafts. Steel shafts didn’t come about until the 1930s. My father patented “Frequency Matching” (in the 1980s) which has been the biggest breakthrough during my lifetime. Until then there were no standards; the method gave a baseline to compare and match shafts. Everything I’ve achieved since is down to the Frequency Matching method he invented.

How did the Frequency Matching idea come about?

We made titanium irons with tungsten weights and wanted to see how different set-ups affected performance. We organised a golf robot, and tried two identical set ups, yet the results were entirely different. We started questioning if shafts might not be matched. My dad developed Frequency Matching as a way to compare and match (for flex, weight, profile through CPM, cycles per minute) shafts to one another. The process hasn’t changed for 30 years.

You developed the Rifle and Project X shafts which are still popular; what was different about them?

No set of shafts had been designed individually for each club until then. They were a breakthrough. We’d follow the PGA Tour (at a time when there were no tour vans) and explain to players about matching their irons. We could match a whole set to the club they felt most comfortable and confident with. We were custom fitting without really knowing it.

I’m also proud of what we’ve achieved at KBS over the last 10-12 years. If we aren’t the leaders in shaft technology I really don’t know who is.

What was the players’ reaction?

They were super interested. We had lines of people wanting to understand how shafts affected performance. We learned all sorts. In relation to frequency the lightest shaft in the bag (the driver) will be the stiffest. The weakest shaft should be in the lob wedge, as there’s lots of shots hit less than full out, and a fraction weaker shaft allows you to know where the head is.

Today, the correct fit for players is often a flex and a half stiffer than we recommended 15 years ago. At the start we were a couple of guys just trying to understand. It wasn’t about marketing; we had our mathematical theory and we wanted to understand if it worked in practice.

How have launch monitors affected modern shaft fittings?

They’re one of the best things to have happened to golf. Launch monitors have helped people understand ball flight, spin, height and launch. Every shaft I’ve ever designed has been designed with a type of player in mind.

Each KBS shaft fits into a matrix, we’ve worked on them one at a time, and the line-up is nearly 100% complete.

Where do you start designing new shafts? Is it an idea from you, or a request from a player?

We have ideas, but they have to work in practice. In golf “feel” is a huge thing. If the feel is wrong products go nowhere. I’ve enjoyed dialling in the KBS Tour Lite (steel) and KBS PGI (Players’ Graphite Iron shaft) to be “everyman” golf shafts over the last two years.

They work at specific swing speed ranges, and thanks to our options we can optimise launch and spin for golfers swinging 6-iron in the region of 80mph.

You’ve worked on a bunch of top performing shafts, but which are you most proud of?

The Precision Rifle put me on the map, set up my career and I learned loads from it. The first KBS Tour shaft was a really big deal, too. It’s the foundation stone of every other KBS shaft, where all our other current shafts start. I’m awfully proud of it. 

Have you hit hickory shafts? How different are they to today’s models?

The last two tournaments I’ve played have been hickory challenges. Hickory weighs a ton (they’re 180g in a 6-iron), they’re really stiff but the torque is unreal. You can literally twist the head in your hand. Wood is strong in one direction – the one it’s grown in – which is up and down the shaft.

Will graphite shafts ever be the norm through the bag?

I’ve heard so many times how graphite represents the future. In terms of iron shafts steel is still a great material. The reason graphite became popular is its strength to weight ratio. It’s possible to make a 45in driver shaft at a “normal” swingweight.

You just can’t do that with steel, but you don’t need that as much in irons. Steel isn’t going away.    

KBS make 16 different iron shafts; why so many?   

Each of our profiles do different things. You may have the tendency to hit the ball low, so we have shafts designed to spin more and have a higher trajectory, and vice-versa.

For every 2.5mph of club speed change golfers need a different shaft flex, and that’s why we make half flexes. There’s also feel to consider. In our KBS Tour franchise we go from 130g to 90g in 5g increments (nine different weights), so golfers get what they need.

Whereas in a traditional three flex line-up (R, S, X) golfers get pushed into the best option available. KBS have a reputation for making good feeling shafts because golfers get shafts with the correct load at impact, which naturally feels good. Everything really does come back to fitting.

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KBS C Taper Lite vs KBS Tour: What are the Differences?

The golf club is undeniably a crucial piece of equipment in the game of golf.

Yet, many might overlook the fact that the shaft of the club is as pivotal to performance as the clubhead itself.

The shaft plays a significant role in the swing, profoundly influencing the head’s performance. Therefore, investing in the right shaft is paramount.

KBS is a brand that has earned a sterling reputation for its superior shafts, with standout offerings like the KBS C Taper Lite and the KBS Tour.

Both shafts are at the peak of the industry, courtesy of the meticulous precision employed in their creation.

Let’s delve into a detailed comparison of these two exceptional golf club shafts to understand what sets them apart.

KBS C Taper Lite and KBS Tour: Overview

Since its inception, the KBS C Taper Lite steel shaft has undergone significant enhancements.

Forged from premium steel and honed to perfection, this shaft is renowned for its high trajectory and minimal spin.

Despite these attributes, it remains impressively lightweight and facilitates effortless swings. Moreover, it excels in achieving elevated launch angles, yet does not compromise on accuracy.

Conversely, the KBS Tour shaft has carved a niche for itself with its distinctive mid-trajectory and long carry distances.

It further sets itself apart with a smooth, tactile feel and precise shot feedback. As such, it proves ideal for golfers seeking versatility in their shot options, all the while maintaining a medium flight path.

Performance

In terms of performance, both clubs offer great performance. However, your choice will be largely determined by your swing speed and preferences.

The KBS C Taper Lite shaft exhibits stellar performance, particularly in facilitating high-launch scenarios.

Its design intricately aids in taming excessive spin, thereby enhancing shot accuracy. It’s a prime choice for golfers seeking considerable control over their spin rates.

The KBS Tour shaft, on the other hand, excels in executing shots that necessitate low to medium trajectories.

Despite this, it still provides a degree of adjustability in the swing’s trajectory, though within specific parameters.

Surprisingly forgiving, this shaft delivers a smooth, soft feel that belies its sturdy steel construction.

The KBS C Taper Lite has a sleek and amazing design for a shaft. It has a matte/brushed chrome finish which helps to give it an industrial look.

Together with its red and white label, this shaft looks very classy. Additionally, the KBS C-Taper is made with a firmer tip section which provides a stiffer feel at impact.

The KBS Tour, on the other hand, has a softer tip for a more responsive feel.

This difference in the tip section affects the overall feel of the club and can impact the player’s ability to control the ball.

The KBS Tour also has a simple but stylish look. It also has a brushed chrome finish, but its label is red and black. This is quite useful when it comes to differentiating these two shafts.

Construction

KBS C-Taper Lite is a lighter weight shaft than the KBS Tour and is designed for golfers who benefit from more clubhead speed and a lower ball flight.

The KBS Tour is a heavier shaft and is geared towards players who prefer a more controlled ball flight and a slower swing speed.

The KBS C-Taper Lite and KBS Tour are both premium shafts, however, the KBS C-Taper Lite is generally more expensive.

You would think the Tour will be more expensive due to its heavier weight and more complex design.

The KBS C-Taper Lite is a lighter-weight option, which makes it more accessible for a wider range of golfers. Unfortunately, the price doesn’t seem to be on the good side of affordability.

The price difference between the two shafts can vary depending on the retailer, but in general, the KBS C-Taper Lite is more expensive, from our research on different retailers.

It’s worth noting that investing in a high-quality shaft like the KBS C-Taper Lite can have a significant impact on a golfer’s performance.

So the extra cost may be worth it for players who are serious about improving their game.

Pros and Cons

KBS C-Taper Lite:

• High launching characteristics, ideal for golfers struggling with getting the ball airborne.
• It might be slightly more forgiving than the Tour
• Lower spin rates can be advantageous for players fighting excessive spin.
• The firm feel may not appeal to golfers seeking a softer, smoother impact sensation.
• Lower spin characteristics might not be beneficial for players seeking more spin for control.
• Smooth, responsive feel that appeals to a wide range of players.
• Provides a medium trajectory, ideal for golfers seeking control and versatility.
• Excellent shot feedback, aiding in better strike quality and overall game improvement.
• Although forgiving, it might not be the best option for beginners who need maximum assistance with mishits.

KBS C Taper Lite vs KBS Tour: Which is Better?

These two shafts all have their similarities and their differences. With their only difference being in trajectory, spinning, and accuracy, it can be said that both shafts are legendary.

In conclusion, the type of golfer you are will help you to determine which shaft is best for you.

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KBS c taper vs $ taper: Which Golf Shaft Should You Choose?

Golfers constantly search for the newest and best equipment to improve their game. The golf club shaft significantly influences the accuracy and distance of each shot, making it one of the most essential pieces of equipment. 

The well-known brand KBS in the golf industry offers two well-liked options for players, the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper. 

Although both shafts offer unique benefits and traits, many golfers are unsure which suits them. This essay will contrast and compare the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper to help you make informed decisions and raise your game.

Quick Overview of KBS C Taper Shaft

The KBS C Taper shaft blends feel, control, and performance to become a widely sought-after substitute in the golf industry. 

The club has stable weight distribution and characteristic tapering design thanks to its high-strength steel construction. As a result, accuracy, distance, and feel are all improved. 

The KBS C Taper shaft may be used by golfers of all ability levels, from amateurs to experts. The mid-to low-kick point of the shaft allows for a smooth and steady release of the clubhead, which produces a predictable trajectory and ball flight. 

The KBS C Taper is regarded for having a smooth feel that reduces vibration and improves playing quality.

Its medium-weight shaft makes it ideal for players who want a balanced club without sacrificing performance. 

All things considered, the KBS C Taper is a versatile option that might help golfers of all ability levels improve their abilities and accomplish their course goals.

Quick Overview of KBS $ Taper Shaft

Another well-liked alternative for golfers looking to elevate their game on the course is the KBS $ Taper shaft. 

The KBS $ Taper, in contrast to the KBS C Taper, is created especially for players who place a premium on control and precision. 

With their robust build and high kick point, golfers can produce the quickest clubhead speed and the most vital ball flight. The result of this is shots that are longer, straighter, and more accurate. 

The KBS $ Taper shaft’s reduced weight, more responsive feel, and quicker clubhead are further advantages. 

For golfers who wish to extend their distance and have a quicker swing speed, this makes it the ideal choice. 

The shaft’s lightweight design makes it an enjoyable option for lengthy play since it.

KBS C Taper vs KBS $ Taper Shaft: Quick Comparison Table

Below is a short comparison table of the KBS $ Taper vs. KBS C Taper shaft features. The general parameters of the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper shafts are compared in this table. 

A golfer’s particular swing characteristics and playing style will determine whether the shaft suits them.

What are the Differences Between KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper Shaft?

The KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper shafts are both popular options in the golf industry, and each has unique characteristics that set it apart from competitors.

The KBS C Taper shaft’s tapered design provides uniform weight distribution and stability over the whole club. On the other hand, the KBS $ Taper features a stiffer build and is mainly designed for control and accuracy.

Start Point

A controlled and steady release of the club head is made possible by the mid to low kick point of the KBS C Taper. The KBS $ Taper, on the other hand, has a high kick point that lets players generate the most amount of clubhead speed.

Because of its medium weight, the KBS C Taper is ideal for golfers who want a balanced club without sacrificing performance. The KBS $ Taper, on the other hand, is a lot lighter, providing a responsive feel and allowing for a higher clubhead speed.

Performance

The KBS C Taper is renowned for its improved accuracy and feel, while the KBS $ Taper is designed for players who want to improve their control, accuracy, and clubhead speed.

suitable for

The KBS $ Taper is best for players with quick swing speeds, while golfers of all ability levels can use the KBS C Taper.

While the KBS C Taper has a soft feel that reduces vibration and provides a comfortable playing experience, the KBS $ Taper has a responsive feel that is ideal for golfers looking to enhance control and accuracy.

Ball flight

The KBS $ Taper should be used by golfers who desire longer, straighter swings, whilst the KBS C Taper should be used by those who like a steady ball flight.

So, Which One Should You Choose: KBS C Taper or KBS $ Taper?

As we can see, there are very slight variations between them. Despite the fact that both are superb, golfers have other choices. Based on the following considerations, you can choose one of them.

Swing Speed 

Players with quick swings have to use the KBS $ Taper. A better option for you would be the KBS C Taper if your swing speed is slower.

Playing Method

The KBS $ Taper might be your best bet if you want to improve your accuracy and control. On the other hand, if you’re looking for a shaft that will provide a consistent ball flight and a comfortable playing experience, the KBS C Taper might be a superior option.

Personal Preference

The choice between the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper will ultimately depend on your preferences and playing style. Try both options, if you can, and choose the one that best suits your style and produces the best results for your game.

The answers to the following frequently asked questions should help you with any additional queries you might have regarding these two shafts.

What kind of material is used to create the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper shafts?

The KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper shafts are made of high-quality steel, which gives them strength and durability while allowing them to perform at their peak on the course.

How does ball flight change according to the stiffness of the KBS $ Taper?

The KBS $ Taper shaft’s stiffness affects ball flight and improves control and accuracy. Because of the high kick point and low shaft weight, longer, straighter strokes may result in improved clubhead speed.

Can you use a different clubhead with the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper?

Yes, you can utilize a variety of clubheads, including drivers and irons, with the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper shafts. It’s important to consider the clubhead design and the golfer’s playing style when selecting a shaft.

Do the flex options for the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper differ from one another?

Indeed, there are differences between the flex options available for the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper. On the KBS C Taper, stiff and extra stiff is the only flex option; senior, regular, stiff, and highly stiff are all available for the KBS $ Taper.

How does performance for the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper change depending on shaft length?

The length of the shaft can affect how well the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper work by altering the weight distribution and balance of the club.

Golfers must choose the correct length for their particular requirements and playing style.

Are the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper durable and hold up over time?

Indeed, the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper are durable and sturdy due to their excellent steel construction.

How much do the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper cost in comparison?

The cost distinction between the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper varies depending on the retailer and the specific model. Given its sophisticated technology and design, the KBS $ Taper might be more expensive.

Do the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper require any additional installation or maintenance?

No additional installation or maintenance is required for the KBS C Taper or KBS $ Taper. But, it’s always a good idea to follow the manufacturer’s care and maintenance recommendations.

Can you use the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper on both driver and iron clubs?

Yes, you can use your driver and iron clubs with the KBS C Taper and KBS $ Taper. Therefore, golfers should consider the specific requirements and playing preferences for each type of club when selecting a shaft.

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KBS $-Taper Shaft Review

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The KBS $-Taper shaft is a mid-launching, low spin shaft reminiscent of the C-Taper performance, but with the feel of the KBS Tour.

Introduction

KBS has long been regarded for having some of the best feeling steel shafts in the game.  The KBS $-Taper (pronounced “Money Taper”) is designed to give players that Tour feel with a “straighter and stronger ball flight” and low spin.  My real world experience actually reminded me of a combination of two classic KBS shafts – the Tour and the C-Taper.  If you’re a fan of either of those two shafts, or just curious, I suggest reading the rest of this review.

Like most steel shafts, the KBS $-Taper isn’t all that exciting.  It’s a chrome stepped shaft with a signature small KBS label.  There are two minor details that are slightly different than previous KBS shafts.  First, the label features more white on it.  Second, the step pattern is a bit longer than the KBS Tour which is more for performance purposes.  If you’re feeling crazy, the $-Taper is also available in a black PVD finish .

The KBS $-Taper reminds me a lot of the Tour and the C-Taper.  The best way I can explain the feel of this shaft is that it’s stable and strong like the C-Taper but without the C-Taper “telephone pole” feel.

It has a “sweeter” feel like the Tour, but has a bit more response and life to it.   To simplify it, the feel fell somewhere in the middle of the C-Taper and Tour in my hands.

Performance

Continuing with the theme of falling between the KBS Tour and the C-Taper, the $-Taper’s performance was no different.  This is where I’m obliged to point out that every swing is different and people will experience different results with a shaft.

For me, the KBS Tour has a high and soft flight.  The C-Taper is a low piercing laser with tons of control.  The $-Taper falls right in the middle of that.  I was able to control trajectory with a strong flight.

My “standard” shot was a nice medium flight that elevated to its peak and dropped relatively straight down.   I think there is a wide range of players out there that would find the performance of the C-Taper or Tour too extreme in either direction, and the $-Taper is the compromise they’d be looking for.

KBS ‘s shaft lineup has not been short of options, but the $-Taper is a valuable addition.  That precise feel, mid-trajectory piercing flight, and stability make for a great combination.  As popular as the C-Taper and Tour shafts already are, I believe the $-Taper will quickly join the ranks.  It’s a total package that I believe will be more preferred by pros and amateurs alike.

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I’ve been considering sticking a steel shaft in my Hybrid and this seems to be exactly what I’m looking for. Any obvious reason I’ve missed as to why I should reconsider?

I wouldn’t say obvious reason, but I’ve never been nuts about the steel shaft/hybrid thing. Never played it in my own clubs.

I’d suggest the KBS Tour Hybrid shaft personally. You can read our review here .

The KBS graphite hybrid shaft is designed based on their Tour iron shaft. I would definitely suggest that for your hybrid.

I’m looking at getting a set of Cobra MB/CB irons. The stock shaft is the $ Taper (Black), which would look pretty snappy with the black iron head. However, I have hit a couple of irons with the Modus 120, which you were just gushy about. How would you compare the two? Do you still prefer the Modus?

Bill does not write for PIG anymore, and I have not tested the $-Taper, so I can’t offer an answer on this.

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The $-Taper is actually called “S” Taper, at least by KB himself.

how about compare to KBS Tour V flexS?

We have a review of the Tour V here: https://pluggedingolf.com/kbs-tour-v-iron-shaft-review/

How does the black PVD on the $-Taper hold up? Does it scratch/chip easily? How long should the finish last (30+ rounds per year)?

I don’t have any long term testing data on the finish. What I can offer is that we hear from thousands of golfers every year, and I have yet to hear a complaint about this finish.

I’ve been playing mine for a season and there is no scratches or wear at all.

I’ve played the KBS $-taper 120 PVD finish for 3+ years and not a scratch or chip is visible on the shafts. I play close to 70 rounds a year on average, so I’m probably over 220 rounds without any issues. I also play in the Midwest so weather extremes also factor in too.

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KBS Tour V Vs KBS Tour Shaft Comparison Overview

You have to admire Kim Braley for taking on True Temper and actually making it a fight.

The KBS Tour line of shafts is his crowning achievement as a shaft designer. In fact some would argue that you simply can’t go wrong with any KBS shaft.

But you can optimize your performance by choosing a shaft that actually fits you.

So in the following overview, I will be comparing the KBS Tour to the KBS Tour V shaft.

KBS Tour V Shaft Overview

“The KBS Tour V shaft is available in regular, stiff and extra stiff flex. There are 100g, 110g and 120g weights available.”

The KBS Tour V was designed to be a lightweight option compared to the standard KBS Tour.

It lacks a 125g and 130g weight option and instead offers a 100g version which is ten grams lighter than the lightest KBS Tour shaft.

What surprised me about the KBS Tour V was that it was producing very similar spin rate figures as the heavier KBS Tour shaft.

But the KBS Tour V shaft produces slightly steeper launch angles.

KBS Tour Shaft Overview

“The KBS Tour shaft is available in regular, regular+, stiff, stiff+ and extra stiff flex. There are 110g, 115g, 120g, 125g and 130g weight options.”

The standard KBS shaft looks almost identical to the KBS Tour V.

The difference is in performance. I was getting better feedback from the KBS Tour shaft and the lower launch angles suited my fast tempo better.

The KBS Tour shaft delivers really tight dispersion as well; but you may struggle with it if you already have a low-launch swing.

“The KBS Tour V is a good lightweight alternative to the standard KBS Tour shaft.

But the standard KBS Tour is better if you can actually gain distance by keeping the ball low.”

KBS Tour V First Impressions

Our first impression was that the KBS Tour V looked like any other KBS shaft.

But when we swung it, we could feel that it actually had less feedback.

KBS Tour First Impressions

“The KBS Tour shaft gave me the confidence to fire at will.”

Even on my most aggressive swings, I got the feeling that this was essentially a point-and-shoot shaft.

KBS Tour V Pros & Cons

• Very accurate
• Good for moderate and fast tempos
• Feels stable on full swings
• Great distance
• Classic KBS looks
• Limited feedback

KBS Tour Pros & Cons

• Extremely stable
• Very tight dispersion
• Takes strong loads very well
• Stepped design

Other Shaft Options

If you aren’t sold on the KBS C Taper Lite or the KBS Tour, you should check out the KBS Max shafts.

The KBS Max 90 in particular is like the KBS C Taper Lite in that it offers similar stability, accuracy and dispersion as the heavier KBS Tour shaft.

But if you are in the market for a graphite KBS shaft, you should check out the KBS Max 65. As the name suggests, the KBS Max 65 is a 65g shaft and it feels incredibly fast. While the dispersion certainly widens up with this shaft, it would still be worth a try for slow swing speed players.

KBS Tour V Shaft Specs

Kbs tour specs.

Weight : 110g, 115g, 120g, 125g, 130g (taper), 120g, 130g, 133g (parallel)

Flex : Regular, R+, Stiff, Stiff+, extra stiff (taper), regular, stiff, extra stiff (parallel)

Length : 37.5”-41” (taper), 43.5” (parallel)

Tip : .355” (taper), .370” (parallel)

Butt : .600”

Who Should Buy it?

Muted spin? Check! Tight dispersion? Check! Classic KBS feel? Not so much.

The lack of clear feedback was our biggest gripe about this shaft. Some players may also have issues with excessive rollout. Nevertheless, the KBS Tour V is a great distance iron shaft and it is as accurate as promised.

Overall Score: 95/100

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Who Should Buy the KBS Tour?

“Players who demand ultimate stability on powerful loads.”

This is the shaft that can keep up with your most powerful swings and should fit heavy hitters like a glove.

Overall Score: 98/100

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Using Callaway XR Pros with KBS Tour V 110 (stiff). Looking at a set of Apex CF16 with KBS C Taper 120 (stiff). Anyone have any feedback of making a jump like this? Yes this is a CPO special and really wanted these irons but not sure in the shafts. (9) HCP played with mid 90s driver swing speed. According to the KBS website they are 5% lower which I don't think is a problem for me as I don't have a problem getting the ball up.  

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Had my CF 16's with the Tour V's. Launched too high, spun too much. Funny too, cause that setup worked great in the original Apex Pros. C Tapers for me, still launched at a nice mid flight for me that didn't really get hurt too badly in windy conditions.  

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Ctaper will launch lower, spin is surprisingly close, and the feel is night and day with the CT feeling extremely rigid/stiff (in fact KBS has always recommended stepping a set rather than going straight flex) while the Tour V have that KBS feel. Both are on the lower launch end of their spectrum though FWIW.  

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Jman said: Ctaper will launch lower, spin is surprisingly close, and the feel is night and day with the CT feeling extremely rigid/stiff (in fact KBS has always recommended stepping a set rather than going straight flex) while the Tour V have that KBS feel. Both are on the lower launch end of their spectrum though FWIW. Click to expand...

Motopilot said: Yes researching now I'm seeing a lot of night and day feeling reviews. Can you explain? I play every other week so I found you do not play consistently is the C Taper just too aggressive? I'm not complaining about what I have now as they feel great just trying to understand the difference. Click to expand...

Jman thank you. I'm not totally sold yet as it's the 30% off right now that is tempting me. Have to see how I feel after thanksgiving dinner. Lol! So want to switch to these.  

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KBS $ Taper Lite Vs. C Taper Lite: Which Shaft to Choose?

The KBS $-Taper Lite and the KBS C-Taper Lite are notable among KBS’s lineup of golf iron shafts. They are made to meet the individual golfer’s needs while offering tour-caliber performance. 

While both shafts are very similar in many ways, there are also differences. The C-Taper Lite shafts are stiffer and a little heavier. On the other hand, the $-Taper Lite gives you more spin, while you get more height and distance with the C-Taper Lite. However, both have similar shot performances.

Continue reading to learn more about these two iron shafts and the characteristics that differentiate one from the other. After comparing, we will have recommendations on which one is better.

Overview Of KBS $-Taper Lite

When the KBS $-Taper was introduced, it was meant to be a shaft that gives you the feel of a Tour iron shaft but with the accuracy and dispersion of the C-Taper. So it falls right in the middle between these two shafts. 

The KBS $-Taper Lite is simply a lightweight version of the standard $-Taper shaft. Besides a higher launch angle , both shafts are virtually the same in other aspects. 

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Overview Of KBS C-Taper Lite

If you like the look and feel of the original KBS C-Taper iron shaft, but with different launch conditions and lighter weight, then the KBS C-Taper Lite is just the right one for you. 

You get the same stepless, brushed appearance and strong, stable feel as the standard C-Taper, but unlike a low trajectory with low spin, you get a high trajectory with mid or high spin. 

KBS $-Taper Lite vs KBS C-Taper Lite: Comparison Chart

The chart below compares the KBS $-Taper Lite versus the KBS C-Taper Lite. We will find the most notable differences between these two iron shafts. 

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What Distinguishes KBS $-Taper Lite From KBS C-Taper Lite?

What makes the comparison between the KBS $-Taper Lite and the KBS C-Taper very interesting is what makes them different, so below we go through an in-depth discussion on that. 

Different players have different swing speeds, which affect the flex. Hence all golf shafts, including the KBS $-Taper Lite and the KBS C-Taper Lite, offer multiple flex options for different users. 

Table 2: KBS $-Taper Lite Flex Options

Table 3: KBS C-Taper Lite flex options

As we can see from the above tables, both shafts offer 3 different flex options, although the options offered by C-Taper Lite are stiffer in comparison.

This means C-Taper Lite’s shafts are more suitable for more experienced or professional golfers, while the $-Taper Lite is a better fit for recreational golfers with greater handicaps.

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Unlike the standard $-Taper, the $-Taper Lite is stepless. It comes in two different finishes- Chrome and Black PVD.

The C-Taper Lite is also stepless but with the red and white (instead of red and black) KBS label covering a larger surface area on the shaft. 

While the $-Taper Lite does not look much different from most steel iron shafts other than its’ signature KBS label, the C-Taper Lite comes with a matte or silver-colored finish that gives it a very powerful look. 

The standard $-Taper gives a feel that balances the feel of the KBS Tour and the KBS C-Taper. It has a stable feel like the C-Taper but is not as stiff.

With the $-Taper, you get the same feel but with more response and kick to it on the downswing. 

In the standard C-Taper, you have one of the stiffest shafts in the market that is also very responsive, unlike most shafts of this build. You get a lot of control and response with this shaft. 

You get much of the same benefits with the C-Taper Lite as with the standard C-Taper but with a little more kick added in.

You feel that you can hit an accurate shot down a narrow tunnel. In short, the C-Taper Lite is stiffer than the $-Taper Lite.

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Performance

Like the standard $-Taper, the $-Taper Lite has a high but strong, piercing flight. You can get a high trajectory with the $-Taper Lite, and the wind won’t sway it. So it gives you more control. 

On the other hand, the C-Taper Lite differs from the standard C-Taper in that you get a high trajectory combined with a high spin instead of the low spin with a low trajectory that you get with the standard one while retaining the accuracy. 

Table 4: Performance chart comparison 

Generally speaking, a higher launch angle corresponds with more backspin, greater height and less carry distance, and vice versa.

As we can see in the table above, the C-Taper Lite has a higher launch angle and height, although the gap is very little. What’s notable is the difference in backspin, which is 229 rpm greater. 

But what is most surprising is that the carry distance of the C-Taper Lite is also a little more than the $-Taper Lite, even though a higher launch angle and trajectory should result in less distance. 

KBS $-Taper Lite Or KBS C-Taper Lite: Which Golf Shaft To Choose?

It is a very tough question to answer since both shafts offer very good value. The $-Taper Lite offers lighter flex options with a relatively smooth feel, which makes it more suitable for beginners or casual golfers.

But more experienced players with a stronger swing would prefer a stiffer shaft, so the C-Taper suits them better. 

In our view, though, performance is all that matters. In that case, the KBS C-Taper Lite is the clear winner. 

Whether you want a strong, piercing shot that covers a longer distance or a strong shot with greater flight and accuracy, the winner in both cases is the C-Taper Lite. Hence our vote goes to the C-Taper Lite with all factors considered.

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Naturally, interested golfers will have questions regarding these two similar yet different golf shafts. Some of the most common questions asked by users are discussed below.

Are $-Taper Lite and C-Taper Lite beginner friendly?

Both the $-Taper Lite and the C-Taper Lite come with 3 different flex options- Regular, Stiff, and Extra Stiff. So there are options for advanced golf players, casuals, and beginners.

Which of $-Taper Lite and C-Taper Lite is more suitable for advanced golfers?

While both offer the same number of options for different types of golfers and golf swings, C-Taper Lite shafts have relatively heavier and stiffer flex. Since advanced golfers play with a stronger swing, the C-Taper ones suit them better.

Which one should I pick if I want more spin on my shots?

Both the C-Taper Lite and the $-Taper Lite give you a good amount of spin on every shot. But the C-Taper gives you way more spin. The gap is about 230 rpm.

Which one should I pick if I want more distance on my shots?

Both shafts offer a respectable amount of distance on every shot. But if you were to compare, you would find that the C-Taper Lite edges by just a small margin of about a few yards.

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Best Iron Shafts in 2021 Review

Iron Shafts 2021

Selecting the best iron shaft or iron–shaft combination for your game starts with knowing your game. The newest irons and shafts in 2021 are producing greater distance, forgiveness and accuracy for our customers because we properly tune the iron and shaft combination to your handicap and swing dynamics. We’ve put the newest iron shafts from Project X, True Temper, KBS, OBAN, Mitsubishi, Nippon and others through rigorous testing. Choose your handicap range or swing speed to see how each iron shaft stacks up: (Our More Popular Shafts are Highlighted in Red)

• Professionals/ low handicaps (6 iron distance is 200+ yards with swing speeds 90+ mph)

• low to mid-handicaps (6 iron distance 175 – 200 yards with swing speeds between 80-90 mph), • higher handicaps (6 iron distance 150 – 175 yards with swing speed less than 80 mph, • seniors, juniors, ladies (6 iron distance under 140 yards), if you want to find the best iron shafts for your swing, schedule your fitting here, our fitting difference.

We fit a LOT of different golfers every year for iron shafts. Our master insights come from shaft performance testing and player testing during thousands of fittings. Our fitting system recommendations include length of iron, shaft weight, shaft trajectory and spin profile, shaft flex, and swing weight. Our recommendations are also determined by a golfers physical characteristics (height, weight, wrist crease-to-floor), strength (distance), launch characteristics (actual and desired trajectory, spin, dispersion), and swing dynamics (tempo, transition and release point). Unfortunately, many fitters including your local pro shop do not take all these factors into account, nor do they have the selection of shafts, nor do they have the underlying performance data needed to correctly fit you. Learn more in our blog what happens when golf shafts are not properly fit to your swing.

Our 2021 Guide to the Best Iron Shafts

Professional or low handicaps (200+ yards with a 6 iron).

If your swing speed with a 6 iron is 90+ mph, you should be getting close to 200 yards of distance or more from your 6 iron. If you’re not seeing these distances or happy with the trajectory, schedule your Fitting Here  and we’ll get you dialed in with the best iron shaft or iron-shaft combination for your swing.

                                                    Shaft Weight   Trajectory      Spin

True Temper X7                  132gr                    Low             Low

Project X 6.0, 6.5, 7.0     120-130gr          Mid             Mid

Project X LS                           120-130gr        Low             Low

Project X LZ Steel 6.5      125gr                   Low-Mid      Low-Mid

Rifle 6.0 and 7.0             125-130gr               Mid              Mid

OBAN CT-125                     125gr                      Mid              Mid

OBAN CT-115                     115gr                      Mid              Mid

KBS C-Taper X                  120gr                Low-Mid       Low-Mid

KBS Tour V                       115-130gr         Low-Mid       Low-Mid

KBS $ Taper X                  130gr                      Mid               Mid

Nippon Modus 130      121 – 129gr        Low-Mid      Low-Mid

Nippon Modus 125       127 – 129gr        Low-Mid       Low-Mid

ACCRA TiMesh                  125gr                     Mid               Mid

Aerotech i110                     110gr                 Low-Mid       Low-Mid

Aerotech i125                    125gr                Low-Mid      Low-Mid

KBS TGI 100, 110          100-110                   Mid                 Mid

Mitsubishi MMT Taper  125gr                     Mid                 Mid

UST Recoil 110                   110                         Low-Mid   Low-Mid

Low to Mid Handicap Players (175 – 200 yards with a 6 iron)

If your swing speed with a 6 iron is between 83 – 90 mph, you should typically see between 175 – 200 yards of distance or more from your 6 iron.  For mid-handicappers, we often see a lot of variance in distances, especially when standard flex and even standard stiff flex shafts are used. Your shot dispersion can be less than 10 yards right to left and 7-10 yards front to back, ensuring you’re getting more greens in regulation.

                                                            Shaft Weight Trajectory         Spin

True Temper TI X100                128gr      Low-Mid        Low-Mid

True Temper DG 120                 120gr     Low-Mid         Low-Mid

True Temper AMT White  102-130gr Low-Mid          Low-Mid

OBAN CT 115                                 115gr           Mid                  Mid

Project X I/O                            105-115gr    Variable         Variable

Project X LZ Steel 6.0               120gr             Mid                  Mid

True Temper ELEVATE Tour   115-120gr Mid-High    Mid-High

True Temper ELEVATE ETS 115 115gr        Mid                 Mid

Project X Catalyst 100CW       100gr      Low-Mid          Low-Mid

Rifle 5.0 and 6.0                         115-125gr      Mid                  Mid

KBS $ Taper                               115-120gr        Mid                  Mid

KBS $ Taper Lite                      95-105gr     Mid-High       Mid-High

Nippon Modus 120                  111 -126gr       Mid                  Mid

ACCRA iSteel                                 115gr             Mid                  Mid

ACCRA I Series                         95-105gr    Low-Mid      Low-Mid

KBS TGI 90, 95                            90-95            Mid                    Mid

Xcaliber RT 95                                 96                    Mid                    Mid

Mid to High-Handicap Players (150-175 yards with a 6 iron)

If your swing speed with a 6 iron is less than 83 mph, you should expect between 150 – 175 yards of distance from your 6 iron. Shot trajectory can be extremely important here so that you can still get enough loft to stop the ball on the green without sacrificing distances or artificially creating excessive spin that costs you distance.

                                                              Shaft Weight    Trajectory        Spin

True Temper DG                       105-115gr        Low-Mid           Low-Mid

True Temper XP95                   93-95gr          Mid-High           Mid-High

True Temper ELEVATE 95    95-97gr             High                  High

OBAN CT 100                               100                   Mid-High           Mid-High

Project X I/O                             105-115gr          Variable         Variable

Project X LZ Steel 5.5               115gr              Mid                  Mid

Project X LZ Steel 5.0               110gr              Mid                  Mid

KBS C-Taper Lite                      100-110     Mid-High          Mid-High

KBS $-Taper Lite                        95-110      Mid-High          Mid-High

Xcaliber 85                                        86                   Mid                    Mid

Nippon Modus 105                      105                  Mid                      Mid

Project X Catalyst 80CW          85             Low-Mid          Low-Mid

Aerotech SteeFiber i90 FC    90gr         Variable         Variable

OBAN i83 and i93                    83-93gr     Mid-High          Mid-High

KBS TGI 80, 90                          80-90                  Mid                      Mid

ACCRA i80 and i90                 85-95gr              Mid                      Mid

Mitsubishi C6 80                      80-89gr              Mid-High             Mid-High

Nova Tech i800                        80-90 gr              Mid                      Mid

UST Recoil 780ES                 80-85gr             Mid-High          Mid-High

Xcaliber 75                                        76                    Mid                    Mid

Slower Swing Speeds (UNDER 115 yards with a 6 iron)

If your swing speed with a 6 iron is a bit slower, we’ve still got a perfect solution for you. From your swing and personal dynamics, the shaft we recommend and all the other parameters we ask in our fittings helps us optimize the shaft for your swing – no change to the swing and you get the perfect balance of distance, trajectory and spin.

                                                           Shaft Weight    Trajectory        Spin

Fujikura Vista Pro                   50-80gr          Mid-High          Mid-High

Xcaliber 75                                     76                    Mid                    Mid

UST Recoil DART                65-75gr         Mid-High          Mid-High

Aerotech SteelFiber i70FC  70-75gr       Mid-High          Mid-High

KBS TGI 50, 60. 70              50-70gr          Mid-High         Mid-High

KBS MAX Graphite              45-85gr          Mid-High        Mid-High

Mitsubishi  C6                        45-75gr          Mid-High             Mid-High

OBAN i43i-i73i                       43-74gr         Mid-High         Mid-High

Project X Catalyst 40-60  57-68gr         Mid-High        Mid-High

Project X CYPHER 40-60  52-74gr        Mid-High        Mid-High

Nova Tech  i700              70-75gr              Mid-High          Mid-High

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KBS TOUR vs C-taper

By fra3snny May 25, 2011 in WRX Club Techs

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I have played s400's forever. A year ago I made the switch to kbs tour s. The s flex felt a little bit better to me than s+. I don't tinker very much but several weeks ago I got on a trackman and noticed that my spin numbers were too high which was surprising because my distances seemed normal for me. (6iron 190). The ctapers have been in my irons for a few weeks now and they feel really great. It brought my spin numbers down a lot. Right now I have the s+ in my irons. My question is... I am thinking about going to the C taper S for a little bit more feel. I have always played slightly softer shafts than what a spec chart would tell me. Obviously the technology of the shaft is helping me create less spin. When talking flex- what would the comparison between the Tour s and c taper s be? Are they similar? I was told that the C taper s would feel slightly more stout than the kbs tour s. I am just concerned that my spin rate would jump back up if I went back to the S flex but maybe the technology of the shaft would allow me to play the ctapers in s flex without my numbers jumping back up.

Let me know what you think,

thanks guys

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[quote name='fra3snny' timestamp='1306379513' post='3263386'] I have played s400's forever. A year ago I made the switch to kbs tour s. The s flex felt a little bit better to me than s+. I don't tinker very much but several weeks ago I got on a trackman and noticed that my spin numbers were too high which was surprising because my distances seemed normal for me. (6iron 190). The ctapers have been in my irons for a few weeks now and they feel really great. It brought my spin numbers down a lot. Right now I have the s+ in my irons. My question is... I am thinking about going to the C taper S for a little bit more feel. I have always played slightly softer shafts than what a spec chart would tell me. Obviously the technology of the shaft is helping me create less spin. When talking flex- what would the comparison between the Tour s and c taper s be? Are they similar? I was told that the C taper s would feel slightly more stout than the kbs tour s. I am just concerned that my spin rate would jump back up if I went back to the S flex but maybe the technology of the shaft would allow me to play the ctapers in s flex without my numbers jumping back up. Let me know what you think, thanks guys [/quote] your spin rate might go up slightly but it would be considerably less than your kbs tour s... the c taper is slighty more stout also so the c taper s would be close to the kbs tour s. If you wanted to get as close as possible to the kbs tour s feel with a bit lower spin you should soft step the C taper s. Granted this is most likely going to give you a minor decrease in spin, unlike the big jumps you saw my going to the C taper S+. btw, love my C tapers also!

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Maybe i am misunderstanding but when you hit a 6 iron 190, don't you want it to be spinning so it will stop on the green? Or does the decrease in spin not affect stopping power?

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What are your spin rates?

[quote name='Mick Ill Son!' timestamp='1306417012' post='3263973'] What are your spin rates? [/quote] I dont remember exact numbers. my 6 iron was above 7,500 rpm.

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whats your spin numbers with a real ball? Presuming range balls can vary How do they play on the course? Are you getting the right flight and shots on the course?

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I'd think the only reason you wouldn't want a ton of spin would be for distance reasons, but if you're hitting a 6 190, you should be good? I mean, unless you're sucking balls back 10 feet with a 6, I can't imagine a lot of spin would be too bad with 190 yards...

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I feel that my c tapers are pretty similar to my Dynamic Golds as far as trajectory... maybe a bit more consistent through the set (7 iron almost as high as PW). My distance is a bit more, maybe 5 yards per iron. I do think this is the only claim that the shafts cannot fulfill (5% lower ball flight), unless they were referring to a high launch steel shaft as their competition. Granted, I still like the flight and feel so no complaints here.

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[quote name='nickrut' timestamp='1306420413' post='3264099'] I'd think the only reason you wouldn't want a ton of spin would be for distance reasons, but if you're hitting a 6 190, you should be good? I mean, unless you're sucking balls back 10 feet with a 6, I can't imagine a lot of spin would be too bad with 190 yards... [/quote] Another reason to consider would be the effect hitting shots INTO wind with that amount of spin would have on the distance and the ability to control it.

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So, are the C-Tapers going to knock down that spin rate more than the KBS Tours will? I am in a similar situation, only difference being I am currently in a set of DG X100's. Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks!

I had a chart from a thread showing the difference in CFM between shafts, but its on my other computer so will look for it later. I went from S300 to c taper as i was hitting balloons with the S300 and needed something different. The c taper took away my balloning, killed spin only slightly, but i gained a half a club in distance. The Stiff ctaper was definitly stiffer than my S300, it felt more like a X100 in my opinion. Driver SS is 107 to give you a refeerence of my swing and I have a aggressive transition.

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[quote name='fra3snny' timestamp='1306379513' post='3263386'] I have played s400's forever. A year ago I made the switch to kbs tour s. The s flex felt a little bit better to me than s+. I don't tinker very much but several weeks ago I got on a trackman and noticed that my spin numbers were too high which was surprising because my distances seemed normal for me. (6iron 190). The ctapers have been in my irons for a few weeks now and they feel really great. It brought my spin numbers down a lot. Right now I have the s+ in my irons. My question is... I am thinking about going to the C taper S for a little bit more feel. I have always played slightly softer shafts than what a spec chart would tell me. Obviously the technology of the shaft is helping me create less spin. When talking flex- what would the comparison between the Tour s and c taper s be? Are they similar? I was told that the C taper s would feel slightly more stout than the kbs tour s. I am just concerned that my spin rate would jump back up if I went back to the S flex but maybe the technology of the shaft would allow me to play the ctapers in s flex without my numbers jumping back up. Let me know what you think, thanks guys [/quote] I have C-Taper 120s in my ap2's and my buddy had a set of Cobra mb's with KBS tour x flex. Side by side, both of us hit my ap2's consistently lower and with less spin. And clearly the mb head should be launching and spinning a lot less than my ap2. I definitely like the c-tapers over the kbs tour and in stiff flex they seemed just as stable as the tour x. Very straight hitting and good feeling shafts.

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