kbs tour 105 vs tour lite

KBS Tour Vs Tour Lite

When it comes to golf club shafts, the choice between KBS Tour and KBS Tour Lite can significantly impact your game. Both of these shaft options are popular among golfers, but they have distinct characteristics that cater to different playing styles and preferences. In this article, we’ll compare KBS Tour and KBS Tour Lite shafts, highlighting their differences in terms of performance, feel, and suitability for various players.

KBS Tour Shaft

Overview The KBS Tour shaft is a premium option designed to provide exceptional performance for golfers seeking control, consistency, and precision in their shots. It’s widely used by professional and skilled amateur golfers due to its stability and versatility.

Key Features

• Stability : The KBS Tour shaft is known for its stability, which helps reduce unwanted shaft flex during the swing. This results in improved accuracy and control.
• Mid-Launch : This shaft offers a mid-launch trajectory, making it suitable for players who prefer a penetrating ball flight.
• Consistency : The KBS Tour shaft promotes a consistent feel and ball flight, which is essential for players who demand predictability in their shots.
• Versatility : It’s available in various flex options, allowing golfers to choose the one that best suits their swing speed and playing style.

KBS Tour Lite Shaft

Overview The KBS Tour Lite shaft is designed to provide golfers with a lightweight option that promotes increased clubhead speed and a higher ball flight. It’s an excellent choice for players looking for extra distance and a softer feel.

• Lightweight Design : The KBS Tour Lite shaft is significantly lighter than the standard KBS Tour shaft. This encourages a faster swing speed, which can result in added distance off the tee.
• High Launch : This shaft is designed to produce a higher launch angle, making it a suitable choice for golfers who need help getting the ball airborne.
• Soft Feel : The KBS Tour Lite shaft provides a softer feel at impact, which some golfers prefer for increased feedback and comfort.
• Flex Options : Just like the KBS Tour, the Tour Lite is available in multiple flex options to cater to different swing speeds and player preferences.

Choosing Between KBS Tour and KBS Tour Lite

• KBS Tour : Better suited for skilled golfers who prioritize control and precision in their shots.
• KBS Tour Lite : Ideal for a wider range of players, including those seeking extra distance and a softer feel.
• KBS Tour : Players with moderate to high swing speeds may benefit from the stability and control offered by this shaft.
• KBS Tour Lite : Golfers with slower swing speeds may find the lightweight design of the Tour Lite helps increase their clubhead speed.
• KBS Tour : If you prefer a mid-launch trajectory, the KBS Tour is the better choice.
• KBS Tour Lite : For a higher ball flight, especially if you struggle to get the ball in the air, the Tour Lite is a suitable option.
• KBS Tour : Offers a more solid and consistent feel.
• KBS Tour Lite : Provides a softer feel at impact, which some players find more comfortable.

Shaft Material

Torque and kickpoint, spin and launch characteristics, flex options, weight range and price comparison.

In conclusion, the choice between the KBS Tour and KBS Tour Lite shafts in your golf clubs can greatly impact your game. Understanding the key differences in terms of performance, feel, and suitability for your playing style is crucial in making an informed decision.

Professional club fitting is highly recommended when choosing between these two shaft options. A club fitter can analyze your swing, assess your skill level, and consider your specific needs and goals to determine which shaft is the best fit for you. Additionally, experimenting with both shafts during practice rounds can provide valuable insights into how each one performs under real course conditions.

Remember that the right shaft can enhance your control, distance, and overall enjoyment of the game. Whether you prioritize stability and precision with the KBS Tour or are seeking increased clubhead speed and a higher ball flight with the KBS Tour Lite, making an informed choice will contribute to your success on the golf course.

In summary, your golf club shaft is a critical component of your equipment, and choosing between the KBS Tour and KBS Tour Lite should be based on your individual needs and preferences, ultimately helping you achieve your golfing goals and improve your performance.

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Which KBS iron shaft is best for you?

Published: 22 September 2022 Last updated: 17 January 2024

KBS iron shafts are for everyone from the world’s best golfers to slow-swinging amateurs, but which of their 14 models best suits you? Let us explain…

Golfers rarely give a second thought to which shafts are in a new set of irons . Yet, KBS believe 14 different models (all of which come in numerous weights and flexes) are needed to cover all types of players.

Technology has taught the brains behind KBS – Kim Braly, if he’s to fit hard-hitting tour pros alongside moderate speed, high handicap amateurs the brand needs a vast array of options. The thinking has led to the creation of 14 different steel and graphite KBS iron models.

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We don’t want to fit you for your perfect iron shaft. That should only ever be done with the help of a decent club fitter in the real world. But, to highlight how shaft technology helps you hit better iron shots more often we’ve taken a look at the full KBS line-up.

When buying your next set remember KBS shafts can change how a shaft feels, launches and spins, so you have the opportunity to choose your perfect ball flight and set-up. Here’s what you need to know about KBS iron shafts.

Players’ models  

Kbs c-taper iron shaft.

There are three-pillar players’ shafts within the KBS line-up and each differs by balance point. The Tour is stiffest in the grip section (for good feel) and it gives mid-launch and mid-spin. The C-Taper is stiffest in the tip section (close to the head) to give a stout and strong feel and deliver low launch with low spin. The S-Taper fits neatly between the pair.

C stands for Constant Taper, so the shaft has no steps, which allows the C-Taper to have a strong and stout feel. Typically the model suits stronger golfers, and players can expect a 5% lower ball flight than True Temper’s Dynamic Gold . Major winners Gary Woodland and Justin Rose have played the C-Taper as has Rickie Fowler .

KBS $-Taper iron shaft

All three KBS pillar players’ iron shafts come in the same five weights, so golfers get to choose based on the launch, spin, and ball flight desired for their own game.

Half flexes (R+ and S+) are brilliant for golfers that sit on the fence between two flexes. They alleviate decisions around whether to go regular flex for more distance or stiff for increased accuracy. The S-Taper (Subtle Taper) is midway between the C-Taper (lowest spin and launch) and Tour shaft (mid-spin and launch).

KBS Tour iron shaft

The Tour is Kim Braly’s signature shaft, it was the first KBS model and it’s the mothership of KBS. Thanks to not being overly strong the Tour can suit a wide audience of golfers. Its consistent step pattern is a good fit for smoother, less aggressive transition players.

Thanks to being a high balance point model (so weight is positioned closer to the grip), golfers get a slightly softer feel and good feedback at the top of the swing. A further Tour FLT (Flighted) shaft model launches long irons higher and short irons lower for a more optimised set.

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How KBS players’ steel shafts differ in launch and spin

KBS Tour V iron shaft

KBS see the Tour V as an outlier shaft because the model is 10g lighter than the C-Taper, $-Taper, and Tour.

KBS Tour Rep Paul Steels says “the Tour V shaft is often a good fit for players who like the shot shape and flight of the C-Taper but want extra feel, as the C-Taper is just so boardy”.

KBS C-Taper Lite, $-Taper Lite, and Tour Lite iron shafts

There’s lots of misunderstanding around lighter iron shafts. But KBS say golfers should see their Lite models (which are 15g lighter than the standard models) as giving a little more launch and being easier to get airborne (than the 3 pillar models).

For players who don’t go at iron shots full tilt Lite models can be a really good option as club speeds increase and shots launch higher. Lite models and aging typically go hand-in-hand. If you happen to overload the shaft you’ll know because shots will start turning over left of the target (for a right-handed golfer).

Also, think about launch windows. A strong but very low launch player could see benefits by going Lite but in a strong flex to up launch and ball flight.  

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KBS iron shaft swing speed recommendations

Average speed KBS iron shaft models

Kbs max and max ct80 iron shafts.

To ensure KBS have shafts to suit every golfer’s speed they produce ultralight Max and Max CT80 shafts as well. Both Max shafts are high-launch, high-spin models which help optimise ball flight for maximum carry distance at moderate speeds.

Remember it’s possible to be a fast but inconsistent high handicapper (in which case you’d be better suited to one of the KBS players’ shaft models), so think about shafts suiting speeds rather than ability. Thanks to their low kick point and high launch properties the Max shafts regularly make an appearance in stronger lofted irons (think TaylorMade Stealth and Callaway Big Bertha B21 ).

Typically high-speed players, irrespective of ability will not touch this product.

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There are junior options too   

To ensure golfers can go through their whole golfing career with a familiar KBS feel, the brand also produce two junior steel shafts (the 560 and 580). Both are designed to suit the speed of 8 – 11-year-old players.

Both shafts are lightened steel, so the weights are similar to lightweight graphite iron ranges. But, crucially golfers don’t get a heavy head feel which can cause issues when switching from graphite to steel once a child is a stronger teenager.   

When should you go graphite?

Graphite irons shafts are massively misunderstood in the modern game. Many people think they’re for older golfers and slower speed players, which just isn’t the case. Graphite irons shafts are easier on the body. They remove vibration, and can suit everyone from tour players to very moderate speed club golfers.

In typical KBS fashion, the brand make three graphite models (all are available in numerous weights and flexes), here’s what you need to know about them.

How KBS graphite iron shafts differ in launch and spin

KBS TGI – Tour Graphite Iron shaft

KBS specifically target a steel-like feel from their graphite shafts. They’ve done such a good job fulfilling their brief several tour players swear it’s not actually graphite. Thinking instead it’s a steel shaft painted black.

The TGI can be matched to golfers’ speeds (there are eight weights, so the model can suit from 57mph to 100mph speed players) in exactly the same way as the brand’s steel shafts. The TGI is the company’s lowest launching and spinning graphite iron shaft, it’s pretty strong and stout, so decent players often like it.

KBS PGI – Players Graphite Iron shaft

In developing their shafts KBS have undertaken masses of research, and they say when the flex isn’t disclosed golfers often prefer the feel of graphite over steel. Their advice is to play the flex you need. Don’t be tempted to go stiffer than necessary. And if you swing a 6-iron at 70mph play a shaft that performs at that speed.

The PGI was developed to bring a steel-like feel to graphite and it’s a step up from the lower launching and spinning TGI. The PGI is widely played on the LPGA Tour, it’s the brand’s mid-launch/mid-spin graphite iron shaft. Six weights mean the model can suit from 57mph to 94mph players.

KBS Max graphite iron shaft   

The Max graphite is the highest launching and spinning graphite iron shaft in the KBS line-up. It’s a model for golfers who really need help launching shots high into the air to maximise carry distance. Five weights mean the model can suit swing speeds from 51 to 82mph.

KBS graphite iron shaft swing speed recommendations

Get it right the first time

KBS reckon so long as golfers get fitted correctly the first time they can progress through KBS models throughout their playing career. It means, if like Gary Woodland you’re a C-Taper player or Cameron Smith a Tour shaft player you stay within that family but progress to lighter models as you age.

And to demonstrate how important finding the right family is KBS say to look at Adam Scott and Gary Woodland . Scott has been a Tour shaft player for years (think of his smooth, under-control swing) whereas Woodland is a big strong hitter of the ball, so he’s a C-Taper guy all day long. But, switch their clubs over and both would struggle to play, as they wouldn’t get the ball flight or shot window they’d be expecting.    

Don’t forget your wedges

Today KBS are a through-the-bag shaft company. They make shafts for drivers, fairways, hybrids, irons, wedges, and putters, so if you’re taking the time to get fitted don’t neglect how the company produce five different wedges shafts too.

KBS say the Hi-Rev wedge shaft has been designed from the Tour shaft profile. There’s a lengthened tip section to give a softer feel and generate extra spin. If you play the Tour shaft you’ll likely enjoy this wedge model too. The brand’s 610 wedge shaft was designed to complement the Tour V shaft.

Where C-Taper and S-Taper fans often run shafts from their irons through into the wedges, albeit at a slightly lighter weight as wedge shots are rarely hit full out.

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How do KBS iron shafts compare in data?

Verdict: KBS iron shafts

Lots of people will look at our test pro’s data and think the shafts are performing very much alike. But the data says nothing about how different the shafts felt.

Comparing the C-Taper and S-Taper the data shows the pair as being pretty evenly matched but the difference in feel was phenomenal. So different in fact our test pro felt he just wouldn’t be able to use the C-Taper effectively on the golf course (as it’s so strong). Where the $-Taper felt brilliant and could well be his perfect match within the KBS family.

The Lite shafts produced a faster ball speed, just as KBS promised and the C-Taper Lite in particular launched and flighted shots higher with a steeper descent angle, so there’s a huge amount of tuning in ball flight and feel available from shafts.

Just as KBS promised the TGI graphite shaft produced some very good optimal numbers too, they’d be a very sensible choice for golfers looking to avoid the shock and vibration of using steel shafts. Equally the Max graphite climbed to its peak height very early in its flight, which at lower speeds will be a real benefit in maximising carry distance.   

At the end of the day, KBS are all about the consumer. You get what you want, whether that be higher or lower launching, more or less spin, or a different feel, everything is on offer within the KBS iron family. Our test pro liked the $-Taper for his own game as it didn’t feel too strong, yet it felt stable and produced a good feel through the hands, and he had control over his ball flight.

KBS Founder Kim Braly on a life spend designing golf shafts

Many golfers won’t know the name Kim Braly, but the guy is a shaft legend. He has dedicated his life to creating the highest performance shafts you can buy, and we sat down with him. 

How have shafts evolved over the last 150 years?

A hundred of those years were dominated by hickory shafts. Steel shafts didn’t come about until the 1930s. My father patented “Frequency Matching” (in the 1980s) which has been the biggest breakthrough during my lifetime. Until then there were no standards; the method gave a baseline to compare and match shafts. Everything I’ve achieved since is down to the Frequency Matching method he invented.

How did the Frequency Matching idea come about?

We made titanium irons with tungsten weights and wanted to see how different set-ups affected performance. We organised a golf robot, and tried two identical set ups, yet the results were entirely different. We started questioning if shafts might not be matched. My dad developed Frequency Matching as a way to compare and match (for flex, weight, profile through CPM, cycles per minute) shafts to one another. The process hasn’t changed for 30 years.

You developed the Rifle and Project X shafts which are still popular; what was different about them?

No set of shafts had been designed individually for each club until then. They were a breakthrough. We’d follow the PGA Tour (at a time when there were no tour vans) and explain to players about matching their irons. We could match a whole set to the club they felt most comfortable and confident with. We were custom fitting without really knowing it.

I’m also proud of what we’ve achieved at KBS over the last 10-12 years. If we aren’t the leaders in shaft technology I really don’t know who is.

What was the players’ reaction?

They were super interested. We had lines of people wanting to understand how shafts affected performance. We learned all sorts. In relation to frequency the lightest shaft in the bag (the driver) will be the stiffest. The weakest shaft should be in the lob wedge, as there’s lots of shots hit less than full out, and a fraction weaker shaft allows you to know where the head is.

Today, the correct fit for players is often a flex and a half stiffer than we recommended 15 years ago. At the start we were a couple of guys just trying to understand. It wasn’t about marketing; we had our mathematical theory and we wanted to understand if it worked in practice.

How have launch monitors affected modern shaft fittings?

They’re one of the best things to have happened to golf. Launch monitors have helped people understand ball flight, spin, height and launch. Every shaft I’ve ever designed has been designed with a type of player in mind.

Each KBS shaft fits into a matrix, we’ve worked on them one at a time, and the line-up is nearly 100% complete.

Where do you start designing new shafts? Is it an idea from you, or a request from a player?

We have ideas, but they have to work in practice. In golf “feel” is a huge thing. If the feel is wrong products go nowhere. I’ve enjoyed dialling in the KBS Tour Lite (steel) and KBS PGI (Players’ Graphite Iron shaft) to be “everyman” golf shafts over the last two years.

They work at specific swing speed ranges, and thanks to our options we can optimise launch and spin for golfers swinging 6-iron in the region of 80mph.

You’ve worked on a bunch of top performing shafts, but which are you most proud of?

The Precision Rifle put me on the map, set up my career and I learned loads from it. The first KBS Tour shaft was a really big deal, too. It’s the foundation stone of every other KBS shaft, where all our other current shafts start. I’m awfully proud of it. 

Have you hit hickory shafts? How different are they to today’s models?

The last two tournaments I’ve played have been hickory challenges. Hickory weighs a ton (they’re 180g in a 6-iron), they’re really stiff but the torque is unreal. You can literally twist the head in your hand. Wood is strong in one direction – the one it’s grown in – which is up and down the shaft.

Will graphite shafts ever be the norm through the bag?

I’ve heard so many times how graphite represents the future. In terms of iron shafts steel is still a great material. The reason graphite became popular is its strength to weight ratio. It’s possible to make a 45in driver shaft at a “normal” swingweight.

You just can’t do that with steel, but you don’t need that as much in irons. Steel isn’t going away.    

KBS make 16 different iron shafts; why so many?   

Each of our profiles do different things. You may have the tendency to hit the ball low, so we have shafts designed to spin more and have a higher trajectory, and vice-versa.

For every 2.5mph of club speed change golfers need a different shaft flex, and that’s why we make half flexes. There’s also feel to consider. In our KBS Tour franchise we go from 130g to 90g in 5g increments (nine different weights), so golfers get what they need.

Whereas in a traditional three flex line-up (R, S, X) golfers get pushed into the best option available. KBS have a reputation for making good feeling shafts because golfers get shafts with the correct load at impact, which naturally feels good. Everything really does come back to fitting.

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Kbs Tour Lite Vs Dynamic Gold 105 Shafts Face-Off [2023!]

The KBS Tour Lite thrives due to its lightweight construction, which increases swing velocity and range. The Dynamic Gold 105 from True Temper’s selection of steel shafts is distinguished for its dependable efficiency, control, and consistency.

This section will go over the fundamental differences between KBS Tour Lite vs Dynamic Gold 105 in great detail and address all queries regarding its features and qualities.

Kbs Tour lite vs Dynamic Gold 105: Head-to-Head Comparison

Now we’ll have a brief look at how both these shafts differ from each other.

Kbs Tour lite vs Dynamic Gold 105: Comprehensive Analysis

Now we will have an extensive analysis to differentiate Dynamic Gold 105 vs Kbs Tour Lite.

1. Shaft Topology

One of the things that makes the Dynamic Gold 105 shaft topology so well-liked among golfers is that it is a complicated and exclusive design. Because of the shaft’s rigidity, forgiveness, and feel, golfers can improve their performance.

The KBS Tour Lite shaft is developed to be more stable and in control. Golfers can accomplish that by using a stronger flex and a more progressive taper profile. The stiffer flex offers more feedback to the golfer, while the progressive taper profile helps to provide a more rigid that is less prone to twisting.

KBS Tour Lite is more appealing to golfers as it offers a variety of shafts with unique properties. Based on Shaft topology, KBS Tour lite wins.

Read our KBS Tour and Tour Lite golf shafts comparison – We share some interesting facts about both shafts and Which Shaft Is Better in 2023?

2. Build Materials

KBS Tour Lite shafts are intended to be lighter than standard shafts. The use of lighter materials, a more aggressive tapered profile, and an innovative resin system are just a few of the modifications that have been made to achieve this.

Tour lite is also made of high-quality steel that enhances the performance of the players.

The good steel components are used to create Dynamic Gold 105 shafts that are strong, lightweight, and lasting. As a result, the shaft is extremely light without compromising strength or stability.

Tour lite has more quality steel in it than the Dynamic Gold 105 which makes it more user-friendly and a performance enhancer shaft. Tour lite edges gold 105 here .

The balanced flex profile of the shaft enables the best possible energy transmission throughout the swing. This encourages a smooth and reliable release, enabling you to keep command of your shots.

The KBS Tour Lite offers essential stability whether you’re aiming for a precise fade or a strong draw.

The firm flex profile of Dynamic Gold105 offers exceptional stability and control. Due to their stiffness, which encourages accuracy and consistency throughout the swing, they are suitable for players who like a more regulated ball flight as well as those who swing at faster speeds.

There isn’t much difference between these two shafts. Both provide almost identical output in terms of flex. But KBS Tour Lite has an extra flex option which could be a factor when choosing.

KBS Tour Lite has a higher launch angle. The benefits Golfers can gain from an increased launch angle by boosting distance, increasing carry, improving forgiving, and giving them greater authority over their shots.

The launch profile of the Dynamic Gold 105 is mid-high. It’s amazing how well the lighter shafts maintain a somewhat higher launch than the penetrating ball flight. Players who desire both control and distance should use this launch profile.

It is up to individual preferences. Some are comfortable with high-mid launch while some are happy to have a shaft with a higher launch angle.

The dynamic gold 105 generates a compact shot dispersion and has little amount of spin.

This balanced spin rate, which is sufficient for both greenside control and strong stopping force, aids in maximizing distance and control. Excessive spin might cause shots to inflate or distance to be lost.

Compared to comparable metal shafts in the same category, the KBS Tour Lite has a higher spin rate. For golfers who have trouble getting the ball in the middle of the air or require their iron shots to have more spin, this can be helpful.

A higher spin rate is not necessarily better for the golfers. It might make them lose control of their game in the air. It doesn’t to every player. That is why a minimal spin rate is good for the most of the golfers. I would give Dynamic Gold 105 the edge.

The feedback a golf shaft gives the player is an essential component. When it comes to providing a receptive feel on every swing, the KBS Tour Lite impresses. Using this information, you may optimize your swing and make the required changes for the best performance.

The Dynamic Gold 105 boasts the recognizable Dynamic Gold shaft feel. Right after the first swing, you will realize how great the feel is. You’ll be able to assess your influence as a result and make the appropriate adjustments.

In terms of feel, there is no match to Dynamic Gold 105. It is very comfortable and while swinging, it provides amazing feedback. It has a clear edge over KBS Tour Lite.

Kbs Tour lite and Dynamic Gold 105: Which One Should You Choose?

Golfers who like a lightweight shaft with a balanced flex profile and responsive feel will appreciate the KBS Tour Lite shaft. By extending the range, enhancing shot dispersion, and improving trajectory control, it maximizes performance potential.

This shaft, which is appropriate for players with average swing speeds, adjusts to different playing styles and provides adjustment possibilities for a tailored fit.

The Dynamic Gold 105 is adaptable to a variety of players, which makes it ideal for them. Players of different abilities can use it, although those who swing the ball slowly are the most likely to find it useful.

Golfers can perform to their fullest on the course with this shaft’s ideal balance of power and control.

Assessing all the features and specifications, the KBS Tour Lite Provides fewer benefits than the Dynamic Gold 105. So, I would recommend Dynamic Gold 105.

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frequently asked questions [FAQs ]

Who should employ kbs tour lite.

players looking for a maximum distance along with the tightest dispersion, highest trajectory, more spin, and most precise control in the lightest possible package.

What professionals used the Dynamic Gold 105?

The long list includes players like Tiger Woods, Brooks Koepka, Dustin Johnson, Keegan Bradley, Antoine Rozner, Sam Burns, Rickie Fowler, Min Woo Lee, Collin Morikawa, and Will Zalatoris.

What distinguishes dynamic gold from dynamic gold 105?

Weight-wise, the Dynamic Gold 105 is lighter than the Dynamic Gold 120, which carries 120 grams.

What is the meaning of C-taper Lite?

The proven KBS performance advantages are included in the C-TAPER LITE shaft’s reduced-weight construction.

Are KBS shafts made of steel? 

No. It is made of Graphite

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KBS Tour 105 Shaft Review

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Not all golf swings are created equal.  That’s a fancy way of saying, “we all swing the club differently.”  As such, a golf shaft will often feel and perform totally different between two different people.  Take, for instance, the KBS Tour iron shaft.  It’s one of the most popular aftermarket steel shafts in the game largely due to its feel.  The thing is, some players want that feel, but need a little less weight with more launch and spin.  KBS created a slightly lighter-weight version of the Tour shaft to promote a higher ball flight and higher spin rates .  That shaft is the KBS Tour 105.

How Does it Feel?

This statement is going to be pretty profound, but it’s totally true.  The KBS Tour 105 feels very similar to the standard Tour, but lighter.  There’s a great smooth feel like you’d expect from KBS with a gradual flex profile .  The profile is still somewhat firm with a stiffer tip section to maintain the Tour feel reputation.  It could just be my hands, but the 105 also felt a little more crisp to me as a result of the lighter weight.  The lighter weight also makes the shot feedback a little sharper.  There’s more response from the shaft to your hands, but little impact to the sting factor so your hands are nice and safe.

On-Course Performance

In terms of shot shaping and general control, the KBS Tour 105 performed very similar to the Tour.  I had a similar “built-in” draw and was able to manipulate my shot as necessary.   However, I had a very different launch and spin experience.  A good shot would leave the club face with a nice rising flight to a higher peak.  My launch angles were higher, but they weren’t over the top.   Rather than hitting balloons, the Tour 105 allowed me to play a strong flight but with a good rise and a soft landing.  Need to hood one and drive it low?  The Tour 105 will do it if you know how to hit that shot.

One thing I would feel remiss if I were to not mention it is tempo.  There are definite performance benefits to be had with a lighter weight shaft.  You can pick up swing speed, higher ball flights, maybe a more precise response, etc.  BUT, I generally find a lighter shaft is more dependent on just the right tempo.  With the Tour 105, every single bad shot could be traced to bad tempo in my swing.  Typically too aggressive.  As long as I had a nice smooth and easy tempo, I hit an excellent shot.  My point is you need to be aware of your tempo with these lighter shafts.  I believe a smoother tempo is the optimal player for this shaft.

Final Thoughts

The KBS Tour 105 really delivers exactly as advertised.  If I made a smooth-tempo swing, I had a strong rising ball flight with enough extra spin to keep the ball in the air and give me a soft landing at my target .  While this performance was quite a bit different for me than the KBS Tour, the Tour 105 is clearly closely related to the original Tour shaft.  In my opinion, the KBS Tour 105 is great for the player that likes the feel of the Tour but wants a little more carry and a higher ball flight .

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Would you consider this a high spinning shaft or a mud spinning? Thanks

100% depends on the player’s swing. If you’re a steep swinger with a lot of speed, it will absolutely spin a lot. If you are shallow with a positive angle of attack and lower speeds, you won’t see an over abundance of speed.

I use these shafts (reg) in my irons and I love them – wondering what kind of driver shaft set up I should use to get best match ? Cheers

That’s a tough one. The reality is that fitting your driver shaft to an iron comparison isn’t going to translate all that well so you really do need to test that independently. At least that’s my thought on it.

Hello and thanks for your article Bill I went after years in kbs 120 flt Stiff for 105 Tour lite S, that is a game changer, so easy to play, my GIR et my score became crazy, i have to share this to shaft’s seekers and… i have a question! The fact this shaft is so good for me can give a tendance in what kind of Drivers shaft can suit me? Is theire any logic to apply? Thanks a lot for your advice if you have time

I’m pretty of the mindset that it’s tough to say “if I hit X in my irons, then Y shaft would be good for my driver”. Chances are you move the clubs a good bit different and really should get fit just the same.

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INTRODUCING THE KBS TOUR LITE

January 31, 2022

The KBS TOUR LITE series is here, and it is the latest shaft offering from KBS Golf Shafts. This new series is designed for players seeking tight dispersion, higher trajectory and precision control, while combining it with maximum distance in a lightweight package. The TOUR LITE conclusively assists to increase swing speed, dispersion and ball speeds making it the ultimate performance weapon. Independent testing showed that the KBS TOUR LITE series averaged 9% more distance than its leading competitors. Officially the lightest steel shaft in the KBS product line, the TOUR LITE is 20% lighter than the KBS TOUR shaft and 20% lighter than any standard steel shaft in the same category. The TOUR LITE will consist of  95g/R, 100g/S, and 105g/X in weight and flexes. Same great KBS tour feel and performance, just in a lighter weight package. See the LITE and learn more at kbsgolfshafts.com .

  About KBS Golf Shafts

KBS is the fastest growing and most innovative steel shaft brand in the industry. Since its release in 2008, over 200 professionals across the PGA, European, Korn Ferry and LPGA Tours trust KBS shafts. That number is highlighted by 10 of Top 50 players in Official World Rankings. KBS shafts incorporate unique and advanced shaft designs to provide golfers maximum feel and performance. Headquartered in Boulder, Colo., KBS is manufactured in partnership with FEMCO Steel Technology (FST). Products are available through all major golf club manufacturers through stock or custom options. KBS has a vast network of dealers, both online and in-person, who provide custom fitting, ordering, and building.

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KBS Tour 105 Shaft Review – Specs, Flex Weight

We know, it’s very tempting to skip a bunch of steps and pick up shafts that you’ve seen pros use on Tour.

After all, you buy basketball shoes that LeBron and KD wear and use them just fine on the court, right?

Unfortunately, it doesn’t work the same way with golf gear. Everyone swings the club differently so you have to be extra careful about which shafts you choose. Some shafts are built to accommodate strong swingers while others are designed for more deliberate swings.

You have to be really careful with your iron shafts too because a lot of holes are made or broken by your iron play. So in the following review, we will be taking a look at the KBS Tour 105 – a shaft that was designed to be a replica of the KBS tour, only more accessible for everyday players.

KBS Tour 105 Overview

When we first got to testing the KBS Tour 105, we had our doubts in both directions.

First we doubted that it would live up to the high standards of the standard KBS Tour. Then we didn’t think that a Tour replica would be truly beneficial for mid and high handicap players.

But let’s start with the basics. The KBS Tour 105 had an active feel that made an impact almost immediately. You could feel the energy from your swing transfer almost automatically as you unloaded the shaft. Next, the KBS Tour 105 was designed to be lighter than the standard KBS Tour shaft but to have the same feel.

For those of us who were familiar with the standard KBS Tour, we were able to attest to the fact that the smooth, active transition is still intact in the KBS Tour 105. And we can also attest to the fact that yes, the KBS Tour 105 feels lighter. The overall feel is on the stiff side, which is to be expected from a shaft that is supposed to be a Tour replica.

Still, you don’t get a “shock” in your hands and wrists when you mis-hit. Overall, we have to say that they did a good job of maintaining the Tour feel in the KBS Tour 105 shaft.

Why is KBS Tour 105 So Popular?  

If a shaft has “KBS” in front of its name, it’s going to get a lot of attention.

The brand is what draws people in; but the crisp feel and accuracy are what make people fall in love with this shaft.

How Does the KBS Tour 105 Perform?

As we mentioned, the KBS Tour 105 has a nice, active feel to it.

So it felt like little was lost in translation in terms of swing energy. Our mid and handicap testers were also having a good time with the lightweight design of this shaft. It definitely helped them get their swing speed up.

However, for our faster swinging testers, the KBS Tour 105 presented a bit of a problem. Shots were flying off-line and for the most part, it was because they weren’t adapting their tempo. Players who have fast tempos will need to tune things down when they use the KBS Tour 105 shaft. The KBS Tour 105 was built for a deliberate and smooth transition.

But that was really the only caveat in terms of performance. The KBS Tour 105 launches high without getting out of control. What you end up with is a good rise that leads to a nice plateau and an easy landing. The spin was also pretty pleasing. Again, it was a controlled spin that added to the stopping power of the steep descent angles we were getting.

KBS Tour 105 Shaft Specs Table

What flexes are available what swing speeds do they suit.

  Regular, stiff and extra stiff flexes are available.

Regular is a good choice for sub 80 MPH swing speeds. Stiff would accommodate 85-90 MPH swingers and extra stiff is good for 90-95 MPH swing speeds.

What Weights Are Available? What Swing Speeds Do They Suit?

There are various weights but the 125-133 gram range would be best for fast swingers with slightly more aggressive tempos.

110 to 120 grams is where you wanna be if you have a naturally smooth tempo.

Why is it So Good?  

For us, what makes the KBS Tour 105 so good is that it faithfully replicates the performance of the KBS Tour shaft but makes it more playable for slower, more deliberate swingers.

KBS Tour 105 First Impressions

Our first impression was that the KBS Tour 105 looked and felt a lot like the standard KBS Tour – only with a crisper feel.

Key Features & Performance  

The best feature is that the KBS Tour 105 is lighter than its Tour-weighted counterpart.

It yields a mid launch and moderate spin while offering an active feel at transition and impact.

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So long as you maintain a smooth tempo, you can expect world-class consistency from this shaft with all your irons.

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We liked that we were able to work the ball effectively up-and-down with our wedges. The KBS Tour 105 promotes a soft landing and moderate spin so it’s a bit easier to land fast greens from tight lies.

KBS Tour 105 Pros & Cons

• Responsive feel
• Great for smooth tempos
• Good shot shaping ability
• Controlled launch
• Similar feel to the standard KBS Tour
• Difficult for fast tempos
• Plain design

Overall Score: 95/100

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Who Should Buy it?

As we mentioned, it is also ideal if you have a slower swing tempo so we would assume that most aggressive swingers wouldn’t have a great time with this shaft.

Still, the KBS Tour 105 would be a great option for anyone who likes the feel of the KBS Tour, but needs a lighter shaft.

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KBS Tour Lite vs Tour 90 Shafts: Which is Right for You?

The KBS Tour Lite and KBS Tour 90 are both popular steel golf shafts designed for players seeking enhanced performance. However, there are some key differences between the two shafts.

The main difference between KBS Tour Lite and Tour 90 golf shafts is their weight, with Tour Lite weighing slightly more at 105g compared to Tour 90’s 102g. Both shafts offer lightweight performance, but Tour Lite provides a more marketable nomenclature.

However, there are more; let’s explore them all-

KBS Tour lite Vs Tour 90 Golf Shaft: What Are The Differences?

Weight and flex options.

The KBS Tour Lite is a newer, lightweight steel shaft and is 20% lighter than the KBS Tour Shaft. 

The KBS Tour Lite is available in three weight and flex options: 95g/Regular (R), 100g/Stiff (S), and 105g/Extra Stiff (X). 

In contrast, the KBS Tour 90 is the lightest shaft in the KBS lineup before the introduction of Tour Lite. 

The KBS Tour 90 is available in two weight options: 90g/Regular (R) and 102g/Stiff (S). The Tour Lite’s wider range of options makes it a more versatile choice for different player types.

Launch and Ball Flight

The KBS Tour Lite is designed to provide the same signature Tour feel in a lightweight package, resulting in increased distance due to added carry yardage and faster swing speeds. 

The Lite shafts produce a faster ball speed, and the C-Taper Lite, in particular, launches and flights shots higher with a steeper descent angle. 

The KBS Tour 90, on the other hand, is designed to give players more spin, a higher trajectory, and greater swing speeds.

However, the Tour Lite’s higher launching and faster ball speed properties make it a more suitable option for golfers looking to optimize their ball flight.

Swing Speed Suitability

The KBS Tour Lite shafts are designed for various swing speeds. The Regular flex is suitable for players with swing speeds under 80 MPH, the Stiff flex for those in the 90 MPH range, and the Extra Stiff flex for 100+ MPH swingers. 

The KBS Tour 90 shaft is an excellent choice for players with a smooth tempo, regardless of their swing speed. 

The key is to maintain a deliberate transition, as aggressive swings can result in a limp feel and erratic shots. 

In this aspect, the Tour Lite offers more flexibility for various swing speeds, making it a more accommodating option for a broader range of golfers.

Material and Construction

Both the KBS Tour Lite and the KBS Tour 90 shafts are made from high-quality steel materials. 

However, the KBS Tour Lite is a 20% lighter version of the KBS Tour Shaft, making it an excellent choice for golfers seeking a lighter feel without compromising performance.

 On the other hand, the KBS Tour 90, while still considered a lightweight shaft, is heavier than the Tour Lite. 

The difference in weight between the two shafts can impact players’ swing speeds and overall performance.

Shaft Profile

The KBS Tour Lite has a similar bend profile to the KBS Tour 90 but with a higher launch, according to KBS. 

This means that while both shafts have a relatively similar feel, the Tour Lite’s higher launching characteristic can help players achieve better distance and more optimal ball flights. 

The KBS Tour 90, on the other hand, is known for its soft tip and higher center of gravity, which helps players get the ball in the air with more distance. 

Despite these differences, both shafts offer a smooth and responsive feel, catering to the preferences of various players.

Market Perception

The KBS Tour Lite is a newer shaft, introduced in 2022, and has already gained popularity among golfers due to its lightweight and high-performance characteristics. 

Meanwhile, the KBS Tour 90 has been a popular choice among golfers for its lightweight design and excellent performance for players with a smooth tempo. 

Both shafts have earned their respective reputations in the golf industry, but the Tour Lite’s more recent introduction and innovative design make it an attractive option for golfers seeking the latest in golf shaft technology.

KBS Tour 90 vs Tour lite: Which KBS Golf Shaft To Choose?

Both the KBS Tour Lite and the KBS Tour 90 shafts offer excellent performance characteristics, but the better option for you will depend on your individual swing speed, tempo, and playing style.

The better option between the KBS Tour Lite and the KBS Tour 90 depends on your personal preferences and playing style. 

If you are looking for a lightweight shaft with a higher launch and faster swing speeds, the KBS Tour Lite may be the better choice for you. 

On the other hand, if you have a smooth tempo and prefer a slightly heavier shaft, the KBS Tour 90 could be a better fit. 

It is essential to try both shafts and determine which one suits your unique swing and performance requirements.

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True Temper XP versus KBS Tour 105 Shaft Review

First, all tests were done with a Mizuno MP-15 6 iron and a Callaway Chrome Soft ball.  The shaft lengths and flexes were within the tolerances of our testers.

Launch Angle:  Launch angles for the KBS Tour 105 R, S, and X were .5-.7* lower than the XP 115 R and S.  Both the XP and KBS 105 are mid-launch shafts.

Spin Rate:  Both the KBS Tour 105 and XP 105 and 115 exhibited mid-spin and were within 50 rpm of each other at roughly 5200 rpm.

Feel:  While this is a subjective measure, our testers ranked the XP 105 and 115 better in feel both during the swing and at impact than the KBS Tour 105.

Design:  KBS shafts get their stiffness in general as the shaft gets heavier.  This could be either from increasing wall thickness or butt diameter, or both.  The design of the XP shaft allows the shafts to get progressively stiffer without adding a significant amount of weight.  The KBS Tour 105 R, S and X weigh 105, 110, and 115 while the XP 105 R and S weigh 106 and 107 and the XP 115 R, S, X weigh 113, 115 and 117 respectively.  So, with the XP you get the weight you want rather than getting heavier as the shafts get stiffer in flex.

Overall, our testers were pleased with the results of both XP and KBS shafts but the final vote was in the corner of the XP 105 and 115.

Other considerations would be ball flight and spin, in which case you would want to consider the C-Taper Lite for lower ball flight and spin or the Nippon 950 for higher launch and spin in the same weight class.  That is why you should go to an experienced clubfitter with a wide variety of shaft options before you make your final decision!

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KBS Tour vs. Dynamic Gold; Must Read Before Buying.

What is my personal experience on KBS, and Dynamic Gold shafts? I enjoy Dynamic Gold and KBS Tour equally. While the DGs launch low, KBS Tours launch high. Hard stepping them will still give you the KBS feel but with a lower launch and spin if you need to slightly lower the flight with KBS Tours. 

While the KBS Tours hard stepped still launches a little bit higher than the Dynamic Golds, it is a significant improvement over the KBS straight-in. Though overall profiles are still very different, keep in mind that sometimes a shaft just depends on how it is loaded to function (or not).

I can say that during my fitting, I preferred the feel of KBS and DG over PX, etc. But after playing for two years, I can frankly say that I need to return to DG .

 I need to swing with KBS as smoothly as I can because I can feel my tempo slipping. With my KBS, I’ve discovered that toe misses are the most frequent. Due to my inability to afford the cost of a new set at this time, I am returning to DG in the same heads via resift.

This was my personal experience on these two shafts, and in this article, we discuss and compare the Dynamic Gold and the KBS shafts with all the relevant technical information. So stick around until the end to find out what you’ve been looking for. 

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Kbs tour shafts specs..

Kim Braly’s trademark shaft, the KBS TOUR, is excellent for players looking for mid-trajectory and shot versatility. The KBS TOUR, which incorporates distinctive KBS technology, maximizes energy transfer for better shot control. Several of the best golfers in the world favor the KBS TOUR because it has a responsive, smooth feel.

• Tip diameter of 370″.
• In comparison to Dynamic Gold, 5% less spin.
• The trajectory is 5% lower than Dynamic Gold.
• 5% longer distance than Dynamic Gold.

How stiff is KBS TOUR?

The KBS Tour, in my opinion, has the most “neutral” feeling of the KBS lineup. In fact, the Tour feels incredibly slick and comfortable in the hands. The Tour is almost certainly forgiving of your hands if you miss a shot, I would almost say. The Tour seems to absorb the blow more than a typical steel shaft, which could cause some minor discomfort.

Dynamic Gold shaft specs.

All other iron shafts are compared to the Dynamic Gold, which serves as the industry benchmark. To enhance the performance of serious golfers, Dynamic Gold uses Variable Wall Technology and a step pattern that has been successfully used on the tour. This tour-weight, high-flex steel golf shaft is made for proficient players who want a low, penetrating ball flight for the best possible control and accuracy.

Which Dynamic Gold shaft is stiff?

Having a weight of 134 grams, the True Temper Dynamic Gold S400 golf shaft is a stiff shaft. The S400 can be found in golf clubs from Ping, Titleist, Callaway, and other manufacturers in a Tour Issue Dynamic Gold version. The S400 is made for players who swing more quickly and desire a lower launch.

Which Dynamic Gold shaft is best?

The most successful golf shaft in history, Dynamic Gold is the benchmark against which all other shafts are measured. Every golfer can use a Dynamic Gold, as it is offered in a variety of weight options. The shaft in the True Temper family that is the lightest and most flexible is called Dynamic Gold 95.

KBS Tour vs. Dynamic Gold; Comparison.

Conclusion..

I experience the DG as being stiffer and the KBS as having a stronger kick. The shafts I currently own are DG XP S300, which are, in my opinion, somewhere in the middle, feeling slightly stiffer than KBS but not quite as stiff as the DG. 

The KBS shafts might be a terrible fit for you but a good fit for someone else; it all depends on what works and feels the best to you. Just because they cost more and are considered a “upgrade” doesn’t mean they are any better. If a custom fit is not an option, I recommend hitting both shafts to determine which one you prefer, assuming you can tell the difference.

I also observed that the shafts come with various iron heads, which may affect feel and shot outcomes because they have various characteristics.

Some related FAQs.

What is the lightest kbs shaft.

The KBS TOUR 90, the lightest shaft in the KBS product line, is made for players looking for maximum distance, increased spin, and higher trajectory. Due to the 20% lighter weight of the KBS TOUR 90 compared to standard shafts, swing and ball speeds are ultimately accelerated.

How heavy are Dynamic Gold shafts?

Because Dynamic Gold is a weight-sorted product and weights can vary slightly during production, the standard stiff flex is divided into three sub-flexes: S200 (127 grams), S300 (130 grams), and S400 (134 grams).

What is the difference between Dynamic Gold S200 and S300?

The S300 has fewer flex options than the S200, which is one of the main differences between the two models. However, there are more weight options with the S300. The S300 has a high launch angle, while the S200 has a low on

The S300 has fewer flex options than the S200, which is one of the main differences between the two models. However, there are more weight options with the S300. The S300 has a high launch angle, while the S200 has a low one.

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KBS Tour Lite vs Nippon Modus 105

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15 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Likely more than 83+. What’s your typical carry? Im at 85mph 7 iron based on my fitting, about 153 carry. Didn’t have the greatest strikes so probably could go a few yards further. But i don’t get up to 120 ballspeed ever though with a 7 iron.

Only had about 1 out of 10 at 120+.

Most were around 117-118

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I have used the Modus 105 in stiff flex for years, in several different sets of irons,, great shafts. But, as with all shafts you will have to try them.  Get fit and try them.  You will adjust qu

I cannot hit the Modus 105 in any flex. I don’t even understand it but its always 15 yards shorter and poor strikes.   I get along with 950gh, dg95, etc., but not at all with Modus 105. Thin

Well with my HMP Mizuno which is 29* 7 iron Px lz 5.5  I  carry 160-165 on average in real life. Longer in simulator. Srixon zx7 modus 120 32* about 5 yards less. But don't get enough spin a

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I just transitioned from Modus Tour 120 to the Modus 105 and they are very smooth and the lighter weight has helped swing speed and launch on 

mid-long irons.  Game changer so far for me. 

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15 minutes ago, mitchdoc said: Unfortunately I am not within a 8 hour drive of a pxg fitter. I ahve always done well with 115 gram shafts but think it's time for lighter. I really enjoyed hitting the KBS tour lite in a jpx forged head of same loft as the pxg I ordered. Saw 18 to 20* launch. Spin was no less than modus 120 and maybe few hundred more. Dispersion into screen seemed good but who knows with a simulator. Am leaning that way. Don't have agressive swing. I tend to be low spin. Do you think it will be too soft?

Yeah. I totially get it.  I don’t think they will be too soft for you. KBS are very stable.    

And I wouldn’t have splurged on the SF if I didn’t plan on keeping the PXG a while.  I didn’t go for them in the HOt Metal HL as I know I will likely only keep them until the spring when I may trade them for the 923 Forged and May go SF then.    

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Lightweight irons shafts.  TXG on YouTube.  Good review includes Modus 105.

29 minutes ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said: Yeah. I totially get it.  I don’t think they will be too soft for you. KBS are very stable.     And I wouldn’t have splurged on the SF if I didn’t plan on keeping the PXG a while.  I didn’t go for them in the HOt Metal HL as I know I will likely only keep them until the spring when I may trade them for the 923 Forged and May go SF then.      

Heard good things about steel fiber also heard they play stiff to flex

5 hours ago, dlow206 said: I cannot hit the Modus 105 in any flex. I don’t even understand it but its always 15 yards shorter and poor strikes.   I get along with 950gh, dg95, etc., but not at all with Modus 105. Think i would quit golf if my only choice was to play modus 105, i just cant get along with them...

I'm the same...and play the 950ghs now. However, the Modus 105 wedge shafts are great and transition very well from the 950ghs!

I find the KBS Tour Lites also to be great! Planning on them for a second iron set.

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1 hour ago, sshadow2 said: I'm the same...and play the 950ghs now. However, the Modus 105 wedge shafts are great and transition very well from the 950ghs!   I find the KBS Tour Lites also to be great! Planning on them for a second iron set.

Modus 105 wedge shafts are great, its just those Modus 105 iron shafts i can't get a long with

11 hours ago, mitchdoc said: Hope someone can help. I ordered some PXG irons with elevate tour shafts in stiff. They way 117 grams. They supposedly play similar to the lz shafts. My current irons have project x lz 5.5 at 115 grams.   Am 54 years old. 7 irons ss in the low 80s. Carry my 921 HMP about 160-165 total 170. Thinking maybe it's time to look at lighter shaft. Want something that will be stable but give me a touch more launch and spin than my current setup. I still have time to change my order.   The no upcharge options are the KBS Tour lite I think in stiff are 100grams, the elevate 95. Or in graphite the MMT 80.   Wondering which one would be most stable while still giving the launch and spin I look for.    

I went from LZ 5.5 to Elevate 95 & couldn't make it work. 20g was just too big of a change for me. Very happy with Modus 105 now. Be careful dropping too much weight at once. I'd try the KBS first. 

7 hours ago, dlow206 said: I cannot hit the Modus 105 in any flex. I don’t even understand it but its always 15 yards shorter and poor strikes.   I get along with 950gh, dg95, etc., but not at all with Modus 105. Think i would quit golf if my only choice was to play modus 105, i just cant get along with them. And its not mental, was given one blind during a fitting and after a few shots, i asked the fitter what the hell he gave me. Modus 105

That's so wild. I can't stand DG. Weight was always too much for me. Played Project X 6.0, then LZ 5.5 & now Modus 105. Loved them all at the stage each fit my game. 

Elevate 95 & Steelfiber i95 have been my two costly mistakes. Hated both of them. It's no accident - they're closer to the DG profile. Golf is a crazy game. 

43 minutes ago, Canyonaro said: I went from LZ 5.5 to Elevate 95 & couldn't make it work. 20g was just too big of a change for me. Very happy with Modus 105 now. Be careful dropping too much weight at once. I'd try the KBS first. 

Tried at a golf shop in their simulator but not on the same head.

Trying to overload the shaft but it seems reasonably stable.

Also because I kept hitting it I was in a groove so I seem to be getting used to it fairly easily. Not sure if it would be the same experience on a golf course however. I am leaning on buying it with that shaft. Worse comes to worst they do offer a 60-day return policy and I would only be out the shipping cost.

Does anyone have any experience with the NS Pro 950 GH Neo?  It’s 98 gm in stiff and has mid/high trajectory per Nippon website.  Sounds comparable to the KBS Tour Lite.  They made the butt end a slightly smaller diameter for feel so not sure how it would work with a midsize grip.

I currently use the older NSPro 1050GH’s in stiff flex. Nice high consistent ball flight.  7 iron goes about 150 yards. Tried to transition to Modus 105’s a few times but couldn’t get them to work.  True temper 95’s performed well also. Just a little light. Never tried KBS or LZ. 

17 hours ago, Pasatiempo said: Does anyone have any experience with the NS Pro 950 GH Neo?  It’s 98 gm in stiff and has mid/high trajectory per Nippon website.  Sounds comparable to the KBS Tour Lite.  They made the butt end a slightly smaller diameter for feel so not sure how it would work with a midsize grip.

Yes, played them before, i like them better than the standard 950gh, less stiff in the butt.

Don't worry about the impact on a midsize grip, the butt on the Neo is 0.600" which is pretty standard. The original 950gh has a butt bigger than standard. 

Thank you.  I was able to hit the KBS Lite shaft and liked it.  Good feel and balance.  Stiff seemed suitable for my swing.  I am intrigued by the Nippon 950GH Neo since it’s parent shaft has been so successful, designed to flight the ball higher & manufactured by Nippon so tight tolerances and quality.  I’ve read it’s played on the LPGA tour which means the pros tested and put it in the bag.

My PXG irons arrived yesterday. Tour lite in stiff. First hit will be on Monday as work all weekend.

Will give my opinion after.

On 10/2/2022 at 8:52 PM, Pasatiempo said: Thank you.  I was able to hit the KBS Lite shaft and liked it.  Good feel and balance.  Stiff seemed suitable for my swing.  I am intrigued by the Nippon 950GH Neo since it’s parent shaft has been so successful, designed to flight the ball higher & manufactured by Nippon so tight tolerances and quality.  I’ve read it’s played on the LPGA tour which means the pros tested and put it in the bag.

KBS shafts are made in a state of the art factory in Taiwan, which has a manufacturing complex that rivals Japans. So the quality will be there either way. The shaft I saw in a number of LPGA players bags is the KBS PGI, slightly softer graphite for those who find the TGI too stiff.   

The 950 NEO is a nice shaft but so is the original. They feel slightly different.   

It really is about what you like. Weight might be the decider. 

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I have played both modus 105s in srixon zx5s and and KBS tour lite X parallels in Maltby KE4 max.

Very hard to Compare as there very different set ups but I will say that even in X flex the KBS feel softer and even a little smoother, I never really liked the modus 105 just never really played well with it for whatever reason.

2 minutes ago, Ize said: I have played both modus 105s in srixon zx5s and and KBS tour lite X parallels in Maltby KE4 max.   Very hard to Compare as there very different set ups but I will say that even in X flex the KBS feel softer and even a little smoother, I never really liked the modus 105 just never really played well with it for whatever reason.   Golf shaft reviews also state that the KBS tour lite is just a rebranding of the tour 90 same shaft only the X flex is a different profile screenshot attached.    

Weird as KBS seems to say it's a new shaft.

Also what about the parallel version

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Well couldn't hit the Pxg irons with this shaft worth a darn.

Club felt so light I had no idea where the shaft was.

Return the irons and got myself a set of Mizuno jPX 921 forged please have project x I owe shafts in 5.5 so probably about 10 G heavier and it was night and day better.

Got my low round of the season and tied for a career best 73 today.

23 minutes ago, mitchdoc said: Well couldn't hit the Pxg irons with this shaft worth a darn. Club felt so light I had no idea where the shaft was. Return the irons and got myself a set of Mizuno jPX 921 forged please have project x I owe shafts in 5.5 so probably about 10 G heavier and it was night and day better. Got my low round of the season and tied for a career best 73 today.

I moved from the 5.5 to the Modus 105 and it took about 2 weeks for me to begin to hit the ball well enough to start to like them.They are smooth but very stable. The weight diff is def something that takes a bit to get used to, but now I am not spent by the end of the round. 

Probably going lighter with some graphite next. It's been about 7 years with the last set, but those years were 50 to 57 so I've gotten a little slower and am always looking for that extra 'inth of comfort..

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I was fitted to the Tour90's, and then bought a new set of P790 with the Tour Lite's.  This season has been a mess.  Lefts and rights with them.  I am scheduled for a fitting in 2 weeks to check out other shafts.  I have a quick temp and 7i  SS of about 82.  I know it's probably the indian, but looking for tigher dispersion.  my home course is not friendly at all when you miss greens.

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19 minutes ago, Wardman said: I was fitted to the Tour90's, and then bought a new set of P790 with the Tour Lite's.  This season has been a mess.  Lefts and rights with them.  I am scheduled for a fitting in 2 weeks to check out other shafts.  I have a quick temp and 7i  SS of about 82.  I know it's probably the indian, but looking for tigher dispersion.  my home course is not friendly at all when you miss greens.

Similar iron speed. Came from project x lz a5.5 at 115 grams and these felt too light had no sense of the club.

Went to a different club with project x up 5.5. probably about 10 grams heavier and much better fit

On 10/20/2022 at 8:34 PM, mitchdoc said: Well couldn't hit the Pxg irons with this shaft worth a darn. Club felt so light I had no idea where the shaft was. Return the irons and got myself a set of Mizuno jPX 921 forged please have project x I owe shafts in 5.5 so probably about 10 G heavier and it was night and day better. Got my low round of the season and tied for a career best 73 today.

I had a set of PXG irons a couple years ago. Factory swing weight was on the light side, D0.

Well....  Just ordered i230's with OTi graphite shafts.  Dispersion was everything.  Excited and the P790 experiment is over for me.

Can anyone give a comparison between the KBS Tour Lite and the TT MPH 95. Have been playing the Modus 105 S, but looking for a higher launch.

Can’t comment on the MPH 95.  I paired the KBS Tour Lite with the Srixon ZX7 irons.  Really like the result.  Yes, lighter swing weight like some have said but playing 1/2” over length the balance is good.  Nice high flight and ability to knock it down.  Easy to swing over 18 holes. I only swing about 81 mph with a 7 iron so the lighter weight helps me with some added yards and control.  

KBS Tour Lite's are heavier in the parallel version.

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On 10/1/2022 at 2:36 PM, dlow206 said: I cannot hit the Modus 105 in any flex. I don’t even understand it but its always 15 yards shorter and poor strikes.   I get along with 950gh, dg95, etc., but not at all with Modus 105. Think i would quit golf if my only choice was to play modus 105, i just cant get along with them. And its not mental, was given one blind during a fitting and after a few shots, i asked the fitter what the hell he gave me. Modus 105

I have had a very very similar experience.  PXG rep handed me the modus105 and I could tell something was off, when he told me the shaft I was like ‘ahhh, ya this shaft and I do not mix 😂 ’.

I have tried to get on with modus 105’s For Years

i do like the modus120’s though, they work with my game.  Don’t know why

I'd imagine Lite S flex is a lot softer than 120S. But what about lite X flex?

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