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Kendrick Lamar reignites the big 3 hip-hop debate: K.Dot, Cole, and Drake face Off

I n the ever-evolving landscape of hip-hop , certain debates never seem to fade away. One such perennial discussion revolves around the “Big 3” – a trio of rap heavyweights who dominate the genre. For years, Kendrick Lamar , J. Cole , and Drake have held court as the most influential artists of their generation. But recently, Kendrick Lamar’s latest move has reignited the flames of this debate, prompting fans and critics alike to revisit the question: Who truly deserves a spot in the hip-hop pantheon?

The big 3: A brief history

Before we delve into Kendrick’s recent maneuver, let’s take a quick trip down memory lane. The term “Big 3” gained prominence during the 2010s, a decade marked by seismic shifts in hip-hop. These three artists emerged as titans, each carving out a distinct lane:

• Kendrick Lamar (K.Dot): The Compton wordsmith burst onto the scene with his groundbreaking album “good kid, m.A.A.d city.” His intricate storytelling, social commentary, and lyrical prowess elevated him to icon status.
• J. Cole: The North Carolina native brought raw authenticity to the game. His introspective lyrics and relatable narratives resonated with fans worldwide. Hits like “No Role Modelz” and “Love Yourz” solidified his place in the hip-hop pantheon.
• Drake: The Canadian superstar seamlessly blended rap and R&B, creating a genre-defying sound. His chart-topping hits, vulnerability, and global appeal made him an undeniable force.

Kendrick’s bold move

Fast forward to 2024, and Kendrick Lamar has thrown down the gauntlet once again. His recent verse on Future and Metro Boomin’s track “Like That” sparked heated discussions. In those bars, Kendrick subtly referenced the “Big 3,” leaving fans dissecting every syllable. Was he reaffirming his position? Or challenging his peers?

The contenders

Let’s break it down:

• Kendrick Lamar: His discography reads like a modern-day epic. From “To Pimp a Butterfly” to “DAMN.,” Kendrick’s impact transcends music. His Pulitzer Prize win for “DAMN.” solidified his genius.
• J. Cole: The Dreamville founder has consistently delivered thought-provoking albums. “2014 Forest Hills Drive” and “KOD” showcased his ability to blend consciousness with commercial appeal.
• Drake: The 6 God’s dominance is unparalleled. Whether it’s “Take Care,” “Scorpion,” or “Certified Lover Boy,” Drake’s hits are etched into the cultural fabric.

Why Kanye isn’t in the mix

But wait, what about Kanye West? The enigmatic genius who birthed classics like “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy” and “Yeezus.” Kanye’s absence from the “Big 3” conversation raises eyebrows. Here’s why:

• Generational Shift: Kanye belongs to the era preceding Kendrick, Cole, and Drake. His influence is undeniable, but the torch has passed.
• Controversy: Kanye’s polarizing persona – from MAGA hats to Twitter rants – muddies the waters. The “Big 3” thrive on consistency and relatability.
• Artistic Versatility: Kanye’s ventures extend beyond music – fashion, sneakers, and more. He’s a cultural polymath, but the “Big 3” focus squarely on rap.

So, who reigns supreme? Kendrick Lamar’s cryptic verse hints at a brewing showdown. Fans dissect lines, tweet theories, and await the next move. Perhaps it’s time for a rap royal rumble – K.Dot, Cole, and Drake in the lyrical squared circle.

This article was originally published on rhymejunkie.com as Kendrick Lamar reignites the big 3 hip-hop debate: K.Dot, Cole, and Drake face Off .

J. Cole Responds to Kendrick Lamar Diss on ‘7 Minute Drill,’ Included on Surprise New Album ‘Might Delete Later’

By Steven J. Horowitz

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When Future and Metro Boomin dropped their recent collaborative album “We Don’t Trust You” last month, fans were quick to latch onto Kendrick Lamar’s guest verse on “Like That,” where he took shots at Drake and J. Cole for including him as part of the “big three” on their duet “First Person Shooter,” released last year.

While Drake has vaguely referenced Lamar’s diss on his current tour, J. Cole took a direct approach with the surprise release of his new project “Might Delete Later,” responding to the diss on the concluding song “7 Minute Drill.”

He continues by referencing Lamar’s five-part “The Heart” series that he’s rolled out in pieces throughout his career. “He averaging one ‘Heart’ verse like every 30 months or something / If he wasn’t dissing, then we wouldn’t be discussing nothin’ / Blood don’t make me have to smoke this n—a ’cause I fuck with him / But push come to shove on this mic I will humble him.”

Fans have been eagerly awaiting a response from the rappers after Lamar’s cameo on “Like That.” Lamar initially took issue with J. Cole’s bars that put them in the same tier of success: “Love when they argue the hardest MC / Is it K. Dot? Is it Aubrey? Or me? / We the big three, like we started a league.”

Lamar fired back with a pointed response: “Yeah get up with me, fuck sneak dissing / ‘First Person Shooter,’ I hope they came with three switches,” he sneered. “Motherfuck the big three, n—a, it’s just big me.”

Cole previously came under fire for veiled homophobia on his 2013 song “Villuminati,” where he clumsily attempted to subvert the usage of slurs against gay people.

“Might Delete Later” arrives after his sixth solo album, “The Off-Season,” which released in 2021. The 12-song project features guest appearances from Ari Lennox, Gucci Mane, Bas, Central Cee and Cam’Ron.

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The 50 Best Kendrick Lamar Songs

K. Dot. King Kendrick . Cornrow Kenny. King Kunta . Kung Fu Kenny. Top Dawg Entertainment’s shining beacon of hip-hop greatness has many monikers, but his born name precedes them all - Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick’s a definite fave of ours and a multitude of hip-hop diehards thanks to his masterful wordplay , strong discography , his dedication to reflecting on the social ills of the modern world and of course a collection of amazing Kendrick Lamar songs.

When he hops on a track, you can bet that he’ll deliver a bevy of quotables and make you reflect on the serious topics he touches on. His delivery of quality mixtapes , EP’s, and LP’s have made it so hard to hit the skip button - why would you when K. Dot regularly provides incredible bars backed by wonderfully crafted beats? We made sure to revisit all of Kendrick’s projects so we could reflect on the best songs he’s put on each one.

Prepare to build yourself an all-new daily commute playlist as we list the 50 greatest Kendrick Lamar songs of all time.

1. ‘Wanna Be Heard’

A young K. Dot popped up on this joint to deliver some bars about his desire to be placed among the greatest. And he made it clear that he wanted to do that by properly representing the hood he knows so well. “Wanna Be Heard” acts as a brief history lesson that covers Kendrick’s upbringing and his grand ambition as a world-renowned MC. 

2. ‘Far From Here’ (feat. ScHoolboy Q)

Anytime a member of TDE’s Black Hippy crew gets together on a song, magic ensues. And that’s definitely the case here as Kendrick and ScHoolboy Q join forces to lament their many struggles. Times are definitely hard no matter the time or place. Both rappers make those hard times sound so soulful and make it easy to relate as you bump your head extra hard to their heartfelt delivery.

3. ‘Thanksgiving’ (feat. Big Pooh)

This is one of those celebratory records that sounds like Kendrick is in the middle of the Super Bowl celebrating a championship win. The added element of a triumphant Big Pooh verse makes this stadium status banger even better. “Thanksgiving” is quite the bold statement in hip-hop form and we’re glad Kendrick got to be the one to deliver it.

4. ‘P&P 1.5’ (feat. Ab-Soul)

Do you know what will definitely make you feel alright? The two main elements that K. Dot and Ab-Soul rap about on this super chill tune. This is another one of those joints that speak on the ills that constantly trip up both rappers’ lives. By the end of each verse, both MCs make it clear that the only thing that can lift their spirits is the company of a beautiful woman and some good liquor.

5. ‘Barbed Wire’ (feat. Ash Riser)

The instrumental for this one goes extremely hard, which is part of the reason why it’s such a gem. “Barbed Wire” features a K. Dot that stays right in the pocket in the finest way possible. By kicking off every verse with “Have you ever felt like…,” Kendrick delves into a series of questions and events that makes you reflect on everything he’s spitting about on this track in comparison to your life.

6. ‘F**k Your Ethnicity’

This booming introduction to Section.80 makes quite the bold statement with its title. But after it comes to a close, you leave it with a clearer idea of what K. Dot was going for and end up appreciating it even more. It doesn't matter what you represent because Kendrick rocks with you all the same. This tune hits hard and stands out as one of the best hip-hop album starters the genre has ever been treated to, as well as one of the greatest Kendrick Lamar songs of all time.

7. ‘Hol’ Up’

As far as feel-good Kendrick songs go, this one is certainly among the best. What we get here is a braggadocious track that speaks on Kendrick’s many highs and how quickly he’s managed to bypass most of his peers. Listening to him go on about being wise for his young age is also another crucial element of this song’s overall message.

8. ‘A.D.H.D.’

“A.D.H.D.” is a super spacey tune that places your mind, body, and soul onto another plane of existence. Its production makes you feel as if you’re floating through space, while Kendrick’s wonderful wordplay puts you on a natural high. You can’t help but see everything move in slow motion as this chill-inducing tune comes through your loudspeakers.

9. ‘Chapter Six’

The jazzy overtones tied to this one also exude those relaxed vibes a lot of early Kendrick songs live by. While it may not offer a bunch of mind-blowing quotables, “Chapter 6” still puts forth an easy-to-comprehend message that quickly gets stuck in your head. We also hope and pray that a lot of you young heads reading this also make it to 21.

10. ‘Ronald Reagan Era (His Evils)’ (feat. Ash Riser, Ab-Soul, and RZA)

Kendrick goes all out here to make it clear that the individuals that came up in his city had quite a tough upbringing during a tumultuous time in American history. Thanks to the added presence of Ash Rizer’s soulful intro, Ab-Soul’s hilarious callout, and RZA’s unexpected assistance on the chorus, “Ronald Reagen Era (His Evils)” reaches the top of the list for K. Dot’s best songs. You can’t help but feel like you’re riding through Compton looking for trouble when this one comes on.

11. ‘Poe Mans Dreams (His Vice)’ (feat. GLC)

The trials and tribulations of a young street prodigy come into full view here. Kendrick details all the inner thoughts that go through one’s head as one witnesses the ills that come with being raised in a tumultuous environment. But by the time this track wraps up, Kendrick drops a bunch of life lessons for those that went through what he went through and are looking to become a better person.

12. ‘Rigamortis’

The flow that your favorite rapper’s favorite rapper adores is all over this impressive display of fast and furious wordplay. “Rigamortis” is one of those Kendrick tracks that instantly makes it clear just how much of a lyrical threat he is. First-time listeners are usually left in awe once this one wraps up and longtime K.Dot Stans go back to it on the regular. Kendrick leaves several bodies in his wake by the time he brings his super-fast flow to an end.

13. ‘Blow My High (Members Only)’

As soon as this track kicks in, Kendrick blesses us with a few bars from the late great Pimp C. That rousing dedication sets the tone perfectly for “Blow My High (Members Only),” which is a song that sends all the love in the world to Pimp C, Aaliyah, and Lisa “Left Eye” Lopes. The production tied to this track is certainly bop-worthy, while K. Dot’s bars provide a noteworthy dedication to three musical legends.

14. ‘HiiiPower’

Kendrick gets real reflective and provides a whole lot of food for thought on this one. This Section.80 cut is most definitely one of his most powerful contributions to the hip-hop medium - it examines the everyday ills of being a black person trying to thrive in America and mentions the many leaders that fought to help them fight for prosperity. Fighting the system with the words spoken on “HiiiPower” will certainly get anyone amped up in the fight for equality.

15. ‘Sherane aka Master Splinter's Daughter’

The prayer placed at the beginning of this album intro exudes images of a group of young brothers seeking holy refuge from their everyday struggles. And once the beat kicks in, K. Dot tells the story of a young woman that takes him on a wild ride through feelings of puppy love. This song’s breakdown of a young Kendrick pursuing the girl of his dreams is quite an engrossing tale. Shout out to Kendrick for tagging the name of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles’ master on this song’s clever title.

16. ‘B***h, Don’t Kill My Vibe’

Kendrick isn’t really asking for much here - he simply wants to vibe out without any negative elements disturbing his peace. Getting into an uplifting mood and feeling out everything around you are the sort of themes that come through front and center on this track. K. Dot floats so wonderfully over the soothing soundscape for this track and turns it into a complete vibe setting experience.

17. ‘Backseat Freestyle’

This head banger sounds like Kenny’s pulled up to a cipher to body anyone and everyone in his vicinity. “Backseat Freestyle” is supremely braggadocious and showcases a rare moment of Kendrick talking that fly ish. We’re glad he decided to stop being humble for a moment - this song thrives because of it. We’re betting that a lot of you reading this rapped a few bars to this song’s instrumental in your homie’s ride.  

18. ‘The Art of Peer Pressure’

We’ve all been there before - the homies say anything and everything to make you engage in some illegal activities. And once you’ve decided to heed their advice, you end up on the bad end of your horrible decisions. “The Art of Peer Pressure” provides one of those well-crafted storytelling tunes that Kendrick is most known for. A whole lot of lessons are learned here as K. Dot retells the sort of stories that have become tied to the young, wild, and reckless.

19. ‘Money Trees’ (feat. Jay Rock)

“Money Trees” has so many moments where a concert audience can join in and belt out its lyrics. As soon as the first few notes of this track come on, you and everyone around you will instantly get excited. K. Dot and Jay Rock show off their Black Hippy chemistry with their super chill flow on this one - you can’t help but rap along to this tune as both MCs wax poetics about getting’ to that paper.

20. ‘Poetic Justice’ (feat. Drake)

A Janet Jackson sample. A Kendrick verse that’s dedicated to the ladies. And a quality Drake feature. Those three elements ended up concocting one of the smoothest odes to women K. Dot has ever recorded. Kenny shows off the casanova side of himself here while Drake offers his usual delivery of lyrics that keeps his heartthrob status intact. “Poetic Justice” works so well when the lights are low and the mood is set (if you know what we mean).

21. ‘Good Kid’ (feat. Pharrell)

Coming up in Compton provided a pretty tough upbringing for Kendrick. With the assistance of Pharrell, TDE’s top dog gives listeners a detailed account of the thoughts that run through his head regarding that arduous lifestyle. K. Dot speaks on unfriendly encounters, drug addiction, gang affiliations, and everything in between on this one.

22. ‘m.A.A.d city’ (feat. MC Eiht)

We go from a mellow reflection on Kenny’s life on “Good Kid” to a banger that changes the mood to a chaotic one with “m.A.A.d city.” This song places you smack dab in the middle of some intense gang warfare - Kendrick’s vivid descriptions and ScHoolboy Q’s signature callouts bring you into their tumultuous hometown. The switch-up in the middle of this track makes it even better thanks to a booming 90s Dr. Dre-esque beat and a hard verse from West Coast veteran MC Eiht.

23. ‘Swimming Pools’

The many ills that plague folks that deal with alcoholism can be detrimental to one’s physical and mental attributes. Kendrick touches on that rarely rapped-about topic and delves into the inner monologue that goes through his head when liquor is a part of the equation. As far as hit singles go, this is one of Kendrick's best since it covers a very serious topic and still manages to be a total club/radio banger.

24. ‘Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst’

Three individuals come into the picture on one of Kendrick’s finest examples of past reflections. “Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst” transports listeners into the life of a troubled youngster, a pissed-off brother of a sister that does whatever she can to get by, and that very same sister. This track produces four chapters full of deep looks at the lives of a group of people whose stories must be told. The way Kendrick wraps up this song by speaking on the people he mentioned beforehand is masterful.

25. ‘Compton’ (feat. Dr. Dre)

You just can’t go wrong with a song that features bars from Kendrick and Dr. Dre. And the added element of some incredible production from Just Blaze is just the perfect cherry on top. “Compton” is an audio tour through one of California's most talked-about locales and excels as the city’s unofficial theme song. It doesn’t get any harder than this collaborative track that brings together two of the West Coast’s hip-hop kings. 

Honorable Mentions

26. ‘the recipe’ (feat. dr. dre), 27. ‘black boy fly’, 28. ‘wesley’s theory’ (feat. george clinton & thundercat), 29. ‘institutionalized’ (feat. bilal, anna wise & snoop dogg), 30. ‘these walls’ (feat. bilal, anna wise & thundercat), 31. ‘alright’, 32. ‘for sale (interlude)’, 33. ‘momma’, 34. ‘hood politics’, 35. ‘how much a dollar cost’ (feat. james fauntleroy & ronald isley), 36. ‘complexion (a zulu love)' (feat. rapsody), 37. ‘the blacker the berry’, 38. ‘you ain’t gotta lie (momma said)’, 40. ‘mortal man’, 42. ‘feel.’, 43. ‘loyalty. (feat. rihanna), 44. ‘humble.’, 45. ‘love.’ (feat. zacari), 46. ‘duckworth.’, 47. ‘untitled 03 | 05.28.2013.’, 48. ‘untitled 08 | 09.06.2014.’, 49. ‘all the stars’ (feat. sza), 50. ‘big shot’ (feat. travis scott).

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J. Cole Responds to Kendrick Lamar Diss on Hard-Hitting ‘7 Minute Drill’

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J. Cole has offered a reply to Kendrick Lamar ’s guest verse on Future and Metro Boomin ‘s “Like That,” which saw the rapper taking shots at Drake and J. Cole. Drake sort of responded to the diss on his current tour, but Cole took a more direct approach with “7 Minute Drill.”

The track, which closes out his surprise drop Might Delete Later , sees Cole addressing Lamar’s verse. “I got a phone call, they say that somebody dissing / You want some attention, it come with extensions,” he raps. “He still doing shows but fell off like ‘The Simpsons’ / Your first shit was classic, your last shit was tragic / Your second shit put n-s   to sleep but they gassed it / Your third shit was massive and that was your prime / I was trailing right behind and I just now hit mine.”

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The rapper’s “Like That” verse has galvanized rap fans and inspired numerous social-media explainers on Lamar’s references. Earlier this week, the song hit No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart.

Might Delete Later features 12 tracks, with guest appearances by Ari Lennox, Gucci Mane, Bas, Central Cee, and Cam’Ron. It follows Cole’s 2021 LP, The Off-Season .

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Lemon laws exist for a reason, and judging by this woman’s experience with a brand new Kia she purchased for $45,000, it sounds like she needs to invoke said laws to get her money back.

Dani ( @dani_bannani ) posted a viral TikTok where she skewered a local Kia dealership for selling her a car she says gave her problems since day one—and the issues just snowballed from there.

The woman said that when she was shopping for a new, bigger car, she looked up the Kia Sorento and thought that it was a viable option—major automotive outlets have sung its praises . Then there’s Kia’s built-in warranties with its vehicles that outlast many competitors, and reviewers who seem to have a soft spot for the Sorento, in particular .

However, the TikTokers’ experience with the car was less than ideal. Dani, who said she was previously a Kia owner, opted for an upgraded $45,000 model which has third-row seating. She said she noticed issues with the car from the first day she brought it home, such as finding oil in her driveway.

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A few months later, she said the panoramic roof on the vehicle would get stuck when she tried to close it, leaving her to drive around with a perpetually open-roofed vehicle. When she phoned the dealership, she said they told her that sometimes sticks get caught in the mechanism which will slow the window from closing properly. For a spell, Dani said she was afraid of opening the sunroof ever again, however, it ultimately did begin operating as intended again.

She said she also noticed the car began to look “weathered” on the outside. According to the dealership, it was a result of too many car washes. On top of that, when she would often accelerate or shift the car after it was stopped, she said that the engine would feel as if it was “bottoming” out or stuttering. Again, she was informed that this was a result of the drivetrain option she selected for the car, a turbo.

Months after, when she brought her car into the dealership for “routine maintenance” she said she was informed that there was a “giant oil leak” in her oil pan and timing belt. Because the car was under warranty, she said the dealership said they would take care of the problem, but that the work would take “a day or two.”

Once at the dealership, she said apart from checking the sunroof, the side panel, the timing belt and the “LED strip light” near the headlights of her car, which was a $2,000 part, the mechanic told her her transmission also needed replacement.

The auto workers allegedly told her that while the car was in drive, the transmission automatically threw the thing into reverse: not the kind of thing you want to happen while you’re on a road and commuting with other drivers. As a result, they needed to replace her entire transmission on the 2022 Kia Sorento.

Dani said since the car has suffered several problems over a prolonged period it doesn’t fall into the “lemon law” as that usually intones one persistent problem with a vehicle that can’t be fixed (these laws vary from state to state, but there are some federal stipulations). She demanded to get the car bought back because of all the issues she’s experienced with it over 30 months but was told that the best they could do was “trade it in,” which would net her less than half of what she agreed to purchase the car for.

She added that when she purchased the car, she financed it at around a 2% interest rate, and that if she purchased one today, her interest rate would be much higher, meaning she’d lose a ton of money on a trade-in.

“I bought that car brand new, zero miles, within the day that I bought it sh*t started going wrong, Kia kept telling me it’s not a big deal,” she said.

It’s worth mentioning that the model year of the Kia Dani purchased is 2022, which is around the time that many auto manufacturers and consumers were feeling the effects of a chip shortage and high demand that appears to have severely affected the quality of many vehicles that rolled off of assembly lines during that time .

Commenters who replied to Dani’s video bashed South Korean auto manufacturers while extolling Japanese brands Toyota and Honda for their renowned reliability .

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Tour Championship 2024 LIVE RESULTS: Mark Williams SHOCKS Ronnie O’Sullivan to win final – latest snooker updates

• Williams WINS Tour Championship
• Rocket reaches final
• Jon Boon , Features writer
• Updated : 21:45, 7 Apr 2024

RONNIE O'SULLIVAN has been beaten by Mark Williams in the Tour Championship final in Manchester.

Welsh wizard Williams dominated O'Sullivan in both sessions to win the final 10-5.

Attention now turns to the long-awaited World Snooker Championship at The Crucible.

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'He likes to play golf and chill out, enjoy his life'

Ronnie O'Sullivan joked that Mark Williams would be No1 in the world, if he didn't prefer to 'chill out' and 'play golf'.

"If he was to dedicate his whole life to it, he would probably be number one in the world," he said.

"But he doesn’t – he likes to play golf and chill out, enjoy his life.

"He doesn’t do badly for someone that just plays about it in the sport."

O'Sullivan's modest in defeat

Listen, I think Mark has been the most consistent player for the last five years. “The way he has been hitting the ball. Very rarely does he play a poor match. “The way he has played this week and in the final, he’s such an amazing player. He’s so talented. “I think he’s better now than he has ever been to be honest with you. He seems so strong. “I tried, I gave it everything, but he’s so consistent, so strong. “If you don’t keep playing top-level snooker against him, he’ll just eat you alive. I think I did well to get five frames.” Ronnie O'Sullivan ITV Sport

More Williams reaction

Not bad. I played well all day. I took it to him, I played well. I cannot believe I won. “It’s not bad for a part-timer. I am a part-timer pool player now! “I never thought I would win tournaments at the age of 49. Who knows, the world championships are round the corner? I will try my best. “This is up there in my career. As Ronnie said, I think I am a better all-round player now. Considering I don’t practice that much. But I always try my absolute nuts. “I have beaten the best three players in the world. I haven’t done it the easy way. “It’s nice to have family up here. One son always comes with me. Two of my sons only come up to watch Ronnie. “The crowd have been fantastic. They have given everybody great support.” Mark Williams ITV Sport

Frame-by-frame

Williams reaction

"I can't believe I won. "Who knows the world championship is around the corner, he's the man to beat and I'll try my best. "I think I'm better all round than I've ever been. I've beat Judd Trump, Mark Allen and Ronnie O'Sullivan the best three players in the world. Mark Williams ITV Sport

O'Sullivan praises Williams

Incredibly, this is O'Sullivan's first final loss in five years.

But, he was quick to take his hat off to his opponent.

He said: "I think he's better now than he's ever been," O'Sullivan said.

"I think he's been the best player for the last five years."

Williams is the Tour Championship winner

What a remarkable performance from Williams.

He was in unbeatable form today, and O'Sullivan just couldn't keep up with his opponent.

The Welshman is the Tour Championship winner.

O'Sullivan 5-10 Williams

With Williams on 40, he misses a red.

But an out of sync O'Sullivan misses a pot he would usually make.

It's catching. Williams then misses with the rest, with Rocket returning to the table.

O'Sullivan's short on a red! Williams returns and makes no mistake. But guess what? An easy pot hits both sides of the bottom left cushion and bounces out.

What a frame. O'Sullivan then gives Williams the opportunity to plant a double - which he does.

A missed yellow from O'Sullivan is then sunk by Williams. It's all over.

O'Sullivan 5-9 Williams

One frame now from glory.

It has been quite the exceptional performance from Williams.

He is reborn.

O'Sullivan 5-8 Williams

Well, well, well.

O'Sullivan's game has gone to pot here. A routine red missed, Williams capitalised.

Earlier in the frame, Williams played a brilliant double - showing off, perhaps, his pool skills.

Another century break gives him a big extension of his lead.

And we're back on

After the evening interval, we're back under way.

Williams blitzed that last session.

Best of 19 frames, it means Williams is just three frames away from glory.

O'Sullivan 5-7 Williams

Williams was in danger of losing the frame very early on when he was told by the ref another miss would see him concede.

But, he managed to find a way out of trouble and a series of safety's followed.

Williams seemed to take the initiative when Ronnie left a long red open, which he potted - but he couldn't quite get a run going.

Another mistake from Ronnie gifted Williams the frame with a break of 99.

O'Sullivan 5-6 Williams

Williams has stole another frame.

Rocket run up a score of 42, but the Welshman got to 60, before missing the pink.

Ronnie needed a snooker, and tried to force the issue until Williams finally sunk the pink.

Williams is playing with such poise and calmness out there.

O'Sullivan 5-5 Williams

This is superb from Williams.

He's shown determination and amazing character to fight back and level the scores up.

We're in for an epic night, clearly.

A break of 104 - with Ronnie failing to pot a ball - seals the 10th frame.

O'Sullivan 5-4 Williams

Williams stops O'Sullivan's run after the interval to go within one.

A brilliant shot to the middle pocket on a red that appeared to be blocked by the pink was dealt with beautifully with a bit of swerve.

It was a tight frame, but the Welshman got over the line and is back in it.

Williams' plan of attack

I'm just going to enjoy it. "How many more times is this going to happen? "I couldn't pick a better player to play in a final. I'm going to attack and try my best. "I know I haven't played Ronnie in a final for a long time but that's because he keeps beating me before the final!" Mark Williams ITV Sport

Ronnie's mental health battle

Ronnie O'Sullivan has been candid about his mental health battle, revealing he has seen a psychiatrist during the Tour Championship.

He told ITV: "I've just got to commit to it [speaking to a psychiatrist] now for a good year to try to get myself out of this sort of hole I've got myself in mentally with the obsession of the game, tinkering.

"I know I'm never going to stop tinkering, but I have to somehow get my head strong enough to be able to deal with it and not go too deep into that horrible murky world that it is.

"Every sportsman - maybe golfers, tennis players, snooker players - I suppose we all do it, but I went so deep into that it's like detoxing myself from it.

"It kind of felt like I've had the yips in a way - mentally, physically - it feels like you get scared to even want to go and play.

"That's not a nice place to be, so I've got nothing left to do other than to try to get myself mentally out of it and hopefully my game will start to flow again, maybe."

Pre-match meal

Mark Williams showed his fans he was just like Luke Littler by tucking into a kebab before his match-up with Ronnie O'Sullivan.

The family meal clearly went down well.

The respect between these two is there to see.

Before proceedings, O'Sullivan and Williams shared a fist bump.

And it's a close encounter in the final. Who will prevail when the evening sessions resumes at around 7pm.

Rocket by name...

Incredibly, Rocket Ronnie won the last four frames in astonishing amount of time.

It took the legend just 37 minutes.

That included breaks of 102, 127, and 121,

He's not wasting any time.

Tale of the first session

Here's how the first eight frame's of today's final panned out.

Frame 1 - Williams , 73-29 (66) Frame 2 - O'Sullivan , 107-10 Frame 3 - Williams, 91-6 (91) Frame 4 - Williams , 137-0 (66,67) Frame 5 - O'Sullivan, 102-0 (102) Frame 6 - O'Sullivan, 127-0 (127) Frame 7 - O'Sullivan, 78-1 (59) Frame 8 - O'Sullivan, 121-1 (121)

Tale of two Ronnies

Ronnie O'Sullivan was completely different in the first four frames of today's action than he was in the subsequent four.

The Rocket's highest break prior to the interval was just 40 while he made breaks of 102, 127, 59 & 121 to lead the match 5-3 at the end of session one.

More to come

That's the end of the first session today, but not the end of the action.

With the scores at 5-3 to O'Sullivan both potters will return this evening to complete the match.

It's anticipated they will take to the table at 7pm to decide who takes home the prize money and the trophy.

O’Sullivan 5-3 Williams - End of session one

The Rocket was 3-1 down and he has turned it around spectacularly to now lead 5-3.

Williams has only potted two balls in the last four frames and will want to rest before the second session.

It's been a fascinating watch, but O'Sullivan is the man in charge after some of his usual magic.

A break of 121 sinks Williams and knocks the Welshman's confident before this evening.

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