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SUICIDAL TENDENCIES announce 40th anniversary shows

Crossover-thrash trailblazers Suicidal Tendencies will be celebrating the 40th anniversary of their iconic self-titled album with a string of shows on each coast, kicking off mid-October. Check out the five dates below.

More details, including the lineups for each show, will be revealed shortly. Pre-sale tickets launched today (August 24th), with the general on-sale starting tomorrow morning.

The 2023 lineup of Suicidal Tendencies includes founding frontman Mike Muir, alongside guitarists Ben Weinman (the Dillinger Escape Plan) and Dean Pleasants, bassist Tye Trujillo (son of Metallica's Robert Trujillo), as well as the band's newest member, 21-year-old viral drummer Greyson Nekrutman.

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On the night war broke out, Suicidal Tendencies was on stage at Cathouse, the Hollywood nightclub most associated with the commercial L.A. rock scene. It was a special, unadvertised show for the club’s reopening party.

The audience of smooth industry guys and glam-rock followers was markedly different from the usual Suicidal crowd; the pointy shoes and designer leathers in sharp contrast to the low-slung chinos worn by the few friends of the band in attendance. Several also sported hand-drawn Suicidal T-shirts, Pendleton shirts and blue bandannas tied pirate-style around their foreheads, the full-on uniform of the Chicano street gang.

Cathouse owner Riki Rachtman walked out to a microphone and announced the band. “Welcome L.A.’s own, from Venice, Grammy-nominated . . . Suicidal Tendencies,” he said, tossing his jet-black mane in the manner that’s made him so popular as a host on MTV’s “Headbangers Ball.”

Suicidal lead singer Mike Muir winced at the words “Grammy-nominated,” but bounded to the front of the stage and launched into “Alone,” a sad, oddly beautiful speed-metal song:

I’ve been down, I’ve been down

I’ve been down, down, down so low.

The audience exploded. A muscular security man crouched like a strong safety in front of the mixing board, protecting it from flying bodies.

Muir, a hunched, tan, unsettling presence with a bandanna all but covering his eyes, wheezed like Brando and bounced around the stage like a cross between a muscled beach crazy and the sax player from Sha Na Na. Lead guitarist Rocky George unrolled a maniacal grin that seemed to reach nearly to his eyebrows, and shrieked solos in strange modes no musicologist has yet bothered to describe.

Even the guys upstairs in the bar were impressed--especially with the last song of the set, which the band dedicated to its friends in the Gulf: “Join the Army,” the title track from its second LP.

Suicidal Tendencies recorded the best-selling American punk-rock album of all time when its members were barely out of high-school, sold out the 5,500-seat Bren Events Center in Irvine, reportedly blew such bands as Slayer and Megadeth off the stage in Europe, was nominated for this year’s hard-rock Grammy . . . but this tiny, informal club date is the closest they’ve come to a show in Los Angeles since 1986.

Long before 2 Live Crew and N.W.A. excited the feds, Suicidal Tendencies, notorious from their days as a punk band, were effectively banned from playing a show in their hometown. What you might have called fans, some promoters called a gang.

Al Kowalewski, founder and editor of Flipside magazine, the Southern California punk-rock bible, remembers the earliest Suicidal shows: “They had a gang association--there was something of an ST gang, though even in his first interviews, Mike denied everything--and if you went to a show there’d be fights. The band had its own look, the cholo thing. But it wasn’t like the audience was in danger; it was more gangs fighting other gangs.”

In the second week of the war, late on a January afternoon, Muir hunches forward in a utility room at a North Hollywood recording studio, his fingers beating a tattoo on the thin metal of his folding chair.

Dense and muscular, long-haired, wearing a mesh Dallas Cowboys jersey and a faded pair of jeans with his band’s “ST” logo doodled all over them in ballpoint ink, Muir is all but unrecognizable without his trademark bandanna over his eyes.

“Gangs?” Muir says in a husky whisper, his right knee bouncing up and down. “The problem with Suicidal was that we were different. There was that whole punk-rock thing--back then people were going up to us and telling us that we were getting up there with Black Flag and the Circle Jerks. We had nothing to do with them, we didn’t care about those bands, and we said so. That was blasphemy, let me tell you.

“And the first people who got into the band were the people from around where we were from, Venice and south Santa Monica, mostly Mexicans and blacks. And people flipped out, because at punk-rock shows there weren’t that many quote-unquote ‘minorities.’ They hadn’t been exposed to that culture.

“We’ll be places and people will bust out with old stories they’ve heard--part of it true, a lot of it not. . . . I’ve read about my death, I’ve read that I’ve been charged with murder. . . . Cats have nine lives, but I’ve gone past cats. It still hurts. We have to answer the question all the time, and it’s pretty much known around the world: ‘Why can’t Suicidal play L.A.?’ Everybody assumes we did something bad.”

Suicidal Tendencies, since its beginnings in 1982, was the sort of American punk-rock phenomenon that critics had been predicting for years: a political band with a broad-based, multi-ethnic, working-class following, which used the musical vocabulary and do-it-yourself ethic established by such bands as Black Flag, and which broke into mainstream culture without compromising.

Muir’s lyrics explored the acned emotional landscape of adolescence in a direct and very funny way, and from the start, Suicidal was enormously popular with Southern California’s skate and surf subcultures. Plus, Muir seemed to have an intuitive sense of vocal hooks and melodies and catch phrases equal to that of the best ‘60s garage-rockers.

The band seemed to rocket straight from self-produced Westside high-school parties--Muir attended Santa Monica High School in the early ‘80s--to prestigious shows at theaters and the Olympic Auditorium. Their 1983 first album, recorded in 12 hours, sold a phenomenal quarter-million copies for tiny independent Frontier Records.

The single “Institutionalized” was the “Epic” of its day, with a video on MTV, near-saturation airplay on KROQ, and Muir’s breathy rant as a possible model for every psycho kid in every high school in America. The band did a guest spot on “Miami Vice.” They were named both Best Band and Biggest (Jerks) in a Flipside magazine poll before they’d played more than half-a-dozen dates.

Before 1984 was over, they had disappeared.

“It was one of those classic situations,” Muir says, clenching a fist. “We were going to start a band and we did it, and we didn’t know what we were doing.”

But there were personal problems.

“I got hit by a couple of cars, and there was this and that, and we were confused,” Muir said. “If we had done a second record a year after the first, we wouldn’t be around right now. We weren’t that good. At the time, it was, ‘No album for four years--that’s lame.’ Now I know the time off was the best thing that happened to us.”

In ‘87, Suicidal came back--as a metal band--with an album, a deal with major independent, Caroline Records, and a radically different lineup. The intensity was the same, the ideals were the same, but the improved musicianship of the band--especially the manic chording of guitarist Rocky George--made it possible to play the sorts of things Muir claims they wanted to play all along.

Suicidal next signed to Epic, Michael Jackson’s label, where they changed the lineup again--the band now includes George, rhythm guitarist Mike Clark, bassist Robert Trujillo, and drummer R. J. Herrera; Muir is the only original member--and released “How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can’t Even Smile Today,” “Controlled by Hatred . . . “ and the Grammy-nominated “Lights . . . Camera . . . Revolution.” They’re poised to become a major band. And they’re still more concerned with emotions than with nuclear apocalypse.

“Alone,” from “Lights . . . ,” is about how loneliness is both inevitable and sort of sad; the song is as direct and touching as, say, “Sweet Child O’ Mine,” but with neither the bathos nor the implicit sexism of that Guns N’ Roses hit.

In many other songs, Muir describes both the power of his emotions and his inability to come to terms with them. Suicidal Tendencies works much the same turf--the pain of self-knowledge--as people like Sting and Sinead O’Connor, except they play real loud and they dress like thugs. It’s kind of touching once you get past the racket.

“People might not understand it, but we’re doing something we believe in,” Muir says. “We’re not putting on an act; we’re not running around the stage. . . . You can’t fake Suicidal. That’s a hard thing to explain to someone, because the heart doesn’t talk. If it were a matter of being successful, we’re on the wrong path, starting with the name.

“And the metalheads are just as bad: When I first did ‘Alone,’ people came up, worried that people wouldn’t like it because it was wimpy. Wimpy ? It’s easy to go up there and sing about partying and this and that; it’s hard to deal with maybe your weaknesses, and admit them, and deal with emotions and stuff like that. That’s Suicidal.”

So anyway, what does it mean, Suicidal?

Muir scratches his head. “Well, not the No. 2 killer of teen-agers, that’s for sure. To us, it’s a very positive word, a lot of emotion, a lot of hatred, a lot of belief, a lot of things thrown together.

“It’s like the old skateboard term, ‘Suicidal, go for it.’ Or sometimes a tense situation becomes not so tense: ‘ Suicidal .’ Or like, ‘Oh well, whatever: suicidal.’ If you stand around saying ‘Suicidal’ as your response to almost everything, how can you possibly be afraid to fail? It’s like, Hawaiians use aloha to mean both hello and goodby , and people say, ‘How do they know?’ Well, they know.”

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Suicidal Tendencies are a hardcore rock/thrash metal band founded in California, U.S by long serving front-man Mike Muir. They have been mostly active since 1981 excluding a two year hiatus between 1995 and 1997.

The group have certainly had their fair share of controversy over a 33-year period. Suicidal Tendencies have been thought of as a group who promoted violence through their quick-tempoed and aggressive sounding music and also rumours that claimed that some of the band members had gang connections. In 1981, Flipside awarded them their Worst Band Award, but S.T. were ironically voted the 'Best New Band' the following year by the same fanzine.

In a nine year period before the start of the nineties, Suicidal Tendencies released five albums including their self-titled first release, which received the plaudits of icons from the metal/punk genre. Since their inception, they have been known for their fast and furious music and often rowdy concerts. During the 1980's, the group were banned from playing shows in Los Angeles after fans destroyed the venue they were performing in.

After their two year break from music, Suicidal Tendencies returned with a completely new band line up and new sound. S.T have always experimented with different genres normally ranging between structured punk to the more hardcore thrash metal sound. The group are comfortable at catering for either genre and have gained a massive fanbase as a result.

Suicidal Tendencies have been influenced by many bands over the years including Anthrax (who have given them credit numerous times), Black Sabbath, Motorhead and Limp Bizkit. Their latest album, "13", was released on their own record label "Suicidal".

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You would think that a thrash punk band like Suicidal Tendencies would naturally lose some of their energy and edge after three decades, but after seeing a recent show of theirs, they come off as ageless. Vocalist Mike Muir and the boys got the packed theater slamming, jumping, and moshing as soon as they hit the stage.

They got the room going with some familiarity, leading off the show with oldies-but-goodies, including signature classic "Institutionalized" (just one Pepsi would be nice after working up a sweat from the moshing). The newer material that followed, such as Slam City, kept the crowd pumped up and proved that the band could still deliver sick, aggressive grooves after 30-plus years.

You could tell that Muir, the founder/only permanent member, was truly grateful of all the fans who they acquired over the band's storied career. He frequently addressed the crowd, commending first-time concertgoers and veteran fans for coming together, and accommodated several fan requests for certain songs. Once ST tore into "Possessed to Skate," the already-manic energy of the band and crowd alike turned up to 11, and it was a truly amazing culmination of a wild night of going "psycho" with the psycho masters. It felt like one big, slammin' family that night; props to Suicidal Tendencies for not losing a step since 1981.

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My first time at the Eatons Hotel and also my first time seeing Suicidal Tendencies.

Support bands were great but it took me a long time to start enjoying myself after having a really shitty week.

A long wait for ST and the room had filled completely by now. Naturally a chant broke out from the impatient crowd.

The band came on one by one and Mike last. He’s the only original member and hasn’t lost any energy, pacing and strutting across the stage for the whole set. My old ears found it hard to understand his fast paced banter between songs, but everyone else enjoyed it.

He called up a woman called Kelly from the crowd and after a case of mistaken identity, the real one came up with her boyfriend and she proposed on stage to him!

I’m recovering from a smashed leg and two surgeries, but the band had really warmed up and I couldn’t stop myself from getting into the mosh pit. They were that good!

The highlight for me was when they played How Will I Laugh Tomorrow... It just went fucking mental! I lost my left shoe but I bumped into a dude later in the night who found it. Thanks man!

At the end of the set, they let the punters up on stage for the last song. The place was going crazy!

I had an awesome night. I’m very sore two days later. Proof of a good band and a good time!

Californian thrash metal band Suicidal Tendencies have been working the circuit for over three decades albeit apart from a short hiatus in the mid-90s. They gained their reputation for being one of the most energetic and aggressive live bands so one would imagine with age they may have subdued their stage demeanour slightly.

This is far from the case, they attack their discography with an equal amount of passion and taunt the masses with a similar level of sneering aggression. This is what the fans have come to know and love and they all raise their hands for favourites 'How Will I Laugh Tomorrow' and 'You Can't Bring Me Down' and mosh in unison whilst the band tear apart instrumentals of unimaginable stature.

They are playing a greatest hits set of sorts which goes over particularly well with the devoted fans, an anthemic singalong to 'Send Me Your Money' proves that Suicidal Tendencies have preserved their reputation all these years later.

Suicidal tendencies was not good. Mike Muir had a lot of energy that was entertaining at times,but at other's real gross. His hair cut is ridiculous,bald exept for a pony tail. During Suicidal's set the vocals were hard to make out. I am a fan of suicidal tendencies, but I have no intentions of seeing them in concert again.

A quick gig in a majority of a passive watchers.

Not your typical Adrenalin charged ST gig.

Great to see the cycos again and in great shape too. Classics such as Subliminal, Cyco Vision and How will I laugh... were played.

Would always Recommend ST, one of the best gigs in Punk Rock music ;)

It would have been good if they actually played. They were on the bill to play but they don't actually join Megadeth till Feb. 26th in Las Vegas. I was disappointed because I really wanted to see Suicidal Tendencies

Awesome show as always. Never disappointed when going to a Suicidal show. Never... Sounded great. And I love you're get down Mike. Hope to keep seeing you guys in the near future... Real soon again.

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Suicidal Tendencies is an American Hardcore Punk band formed in 1981 by vocalist Mike Muir. Although their music video for arguably their most famous song, "Institutionalized", was one of the first hardcore punk music videos aired on MTV, they gained more mainstream exposure by adding thrash metal influences to their sound, leading them to be credited as the inventors of "crossover thrash". Their popularity even further exploded in the early 1990s when adding influence from funk music.

Despite their mainstream popularity, in recent years, the band has stripped away most of the thrash and funk influences and turned back into a hardcore band, primarily due to discomfort within the major spotlight.

Discography:

• 1983 - Suicidal Tendencies
• 1987 - Join the Army
• 1988 - How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today
• 1989 - Controlled by Hatred/Feel Like Shit...Déjà Vu (complation of two EPs)
• 1990 - Lights...Camera...Revolution!
• 1992 - The Art of Rebellion
• 1993 - Still Cyco After All These Years (a rerecording of the Self-Titled Album , with two songs from Join the Army )
• 1994 - Suicidal For Life
• 1999 - Freedumb
• 2000 - Free Your Soul and Save My Mind
• 2010 - No Mercy Fool!/The Suicidal Family
• 2016 - World Gone Mad
• 2018 - Still Cyco Punk After All These Years (A near-complete rerecording of Mike Muir's 1996 solo album Lost My Brain! (Once Again) )

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• Acrofatic : Despite putting on a few pounds in recent years, Mike Muir still runs around the stage almost constantly when the band's performing and never seems to get tired.
• Anti-Police Song : "Fascist Pig" from the debut album. Riot squad, bash their heads Kick their ass until they're dead I won't be a fascist pig! Love to fight, what a thrill We don't stop until we kill I won't be a fascist pig!
• Abusive Parents : Mike's mother and father in the "Institutionalized" video. They imprison him in his room and wrap him in a straitjacket because they think he's "on drugs" even though Mike's never seen doing anything out of the ordinary in the video.
• All Just a Dream : The video for "Institutionalized" seems to imply this, with Mike having escaped his parents and found freedom at a raucous live concert filled with fellow punks—only to Smash Cut to Mike raving and running around in an empty warehouse, implying the concert is all in his head.
• Bungled Suicide : "Suicidal Failure" is sung from the perspective of a 19-year-old who has tried many different means of killing himself, but he just can't get it right.
• Card-Carrying Villain : "We're F'n Evil."
• Drugs Are Bad : "Feeding the Addiction."
• Everything's Deader with Zombies : "Waking The Dead."
• Funk Metal : A major innovator in this, largely due to Robert Trujillo playing with them from Lights...Camera...Revolution! to Suicidal for Life .
• Humble Goal : "All I wanted was a Pepsi. Just one Pepsi!"
• I Am the Band : Mike Muir, the face of the band, one of the main songwriters since the beginning, and the only constant in a seemingly endless list of members.
• Iconic Item : Mike Muir is never, ever seen without his trademark bandanna.
• Lead Bassist : After Mike, Type C Robert Truijllo is probably the next best known member due to later playing in Metallica and Ozzy Osbourne 's band and also adding in the funk elements Suicidal became famous for in their later career. Stephen Bruner is also quite famous for his solo work as Thundercat, while Tim "Rawbiz" Williams was also a name in session musician circles, and Ra Diaz is widely respected in bass circles and is known for his gear demos.
• Miniscule Rocking : A staple of most of their more overtly punk albums, especially the first one.
• Mistaken for Insane : "Institutionalized" is about a teenage boy named Mike, whose parents keep sending him to institutions because they think he's not right in the head (and that he's on drugs ). He's really just a nonconformist, though.
• Motor Mouth : Mike's vocal delivery on most of their faster songs gets really fast. "Institutionalized"'s chorus is a famous example.
• My God, What Have I Done? : How the narrator of "Waking The Dead" feels by the end of the song.
• New Sound Album : Join the Army , the first album with Rocky George on guitar, started adding in metal elements to their sound that would really crystalize in How Will I Laugh Tomorrow and Lights...Camera...Revolution! . Lights in return added a lot of Funk Metal to their sound.
• No Indoor Voice : Mike spends most of the debut album yelling his ass off.
• Religion Rant Song : "Send Me Your Money" is a Type 3.
• Revolving Door Band : They have had a truly impressive amount of past members, at just short of 30 of them. Their first lineup didn't even make it a year. Their longest-running line up since then lasted six years. Muir has been doing this for over four decades .
• Sanity Slippage Song : A common theme in their songs, with "Institutionalized" being a well-known example.
• Scam Religion : The Church of Suicidal in "Send Me Your Money".
• Surprisingly Gentle Song : "Heaven." While parts of it do get heavy, it's mostly a gentle Funk Rock song
• Thrash Metal : A Trope Codifier for crossover thrash, to this day being one of the most iconic bands in the genre.

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