stevens e 8x tour lady 2022

• Stevens E-8X Lady 2022

Bike summary

Bike components.

Aluminium 6061 TB, O.L.D.: 142 mm, Brake: postmount disc 7", BB: Bosch, Cable routing: internal, Fender + rack mounts

Suspension Fork

SR Suntour NRX-E LOR Air, Travel: 63 mm, Air suspension, Lockout, Tapered Steerer 1 1/8" - 1 1/2", O.L.D.: 100 mm, Brake: postmount disc 6"

Shift Levers

Shimano Deore XT, SL-M8100-R, 12-speed

Shimano Deore, CS-M6100, 12-speed, Combination: 10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-33-39-45-51 T

Oxygen E-Scorpo, BB type: Bosch / ISIS

Bottom Bracket

Bosch, press-fit

Shimano CN-M6100

MTB Alu Flatpedal Reflex

Oxygen RM-T20 Disc, ETRTO: 20 x 622

Continental Double Fighter III, Tire size: 50-622

Shimano Deore XT, BR-M8100, Hydraulic disc brake

Brake Levers

Shimano BL-T8100

Oxygen E-Scorpo, Handlebar clamp: 31.8 mm, Angle: 17°

Oxygen E-Scorpo, Width: 700 mm, Backsweep: 9°, Rise: 25 mm, Clamp: 31.8 mm

STEVENS AH Taper 1 1/8"-1 1/2", Upper bearing cup: ZS44/28.6, Lower bearing cup: ZS55/40

Oxygen Lynx

Oxygen E-Scorpo, Length: 320 mm, Diameter: 30,9 mm, Insertion depth: min. 100 mm

Motor & Battery

Bosch G4 Performance Line CX Cruise, Continuous rated power: 250 W, Max. torque: 85 Nm, Breakaway at 25 km/h (15.5 mph), No of notches: 4 drive modes with support levels 60-340 % plus walk assistance, Mileage: See BOSCH Range Assistant

Bosch 4A charger

Bike geometry

About this model.

E-8X Lady is a Stevens E E 8x model. Stevens released 4 e-bikes variations of this model so far. You can get a glimpse at all models from 2022 , by clicking on this link .

Model range prices

Stevens E-8X Lady 2022 is the cheapest e-bike model and costs 4034 $ . Stevens E-8X Tour Gent 2022 is the most expensive one and costs 4246 $ .

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This e-bike was released in 2022 and its price was 4034 $ . In conclusion, this e-bike price is 62.66 % higher than the price of the average Hybrid e-bike.

Average weight for Hybrid e-bikes

The average weight for Hybrid e-bikes is 23.79 kg (52.45 lbs) . Having an easier bike than average will give you a great advantage on climbs. However, a heavier bike will gain more speed on descends.

considerably lighter than average, E-8X Lady has a weight of 20.9 kg (46.08 lbs) . In other words, this model is 13.83% lighter than the average Hybrid e-bike.

Internal Cable Routing

Moreover, this bike comes with internal cable routing allowing you to keep the cables in a good condition. It also makes it look more professional.

Overview of components

The E-8X Lady comes factory-installed with the Suntour NRX E fork. This has a travel range of 63mm . Bike forks are perfect to absorb shocks and provide a great riding experience overall. In conclusion, always look for a fork with decent travel when you buy a bike.

Wheels size

When leaving the production line, the E-8X Lady model has 700c aluminum wheels. These wheels are the most used kind for road bikes in general. However, while they give you great speed and control, these wheels are not so bump-friendly.

We ride faster and faster, so a good braking system is essential on a bike nowadays. The E-8X Lady comes with Hydraulic Disc brakes. Hydraulic disc brakes are perfect for mountain biking, road cycling, and commuting. To sum up, these are ideal for anyone.

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STEVENS E-8X Tour Lady - Trekking E-Bike - 2022

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Aktiv-Urlauber. STEVENS' X-Cross-Gene und unter 23 kg Gesamtgewicht machen dieses E-Bike zum idealen Begleiter auf sportlichen Radtouren. Dank der Antriebs-Power des aktuellsten Bosch Performance CX-Systems werden auch längste Etappen zum reinen Fahrvergnügen. Shimano Deore XT-Scheibenbremsen mit 180 mm Durchmesser vorne wie hinten halten das E-8X Tour, seine Fahrer*innen und das Tourengepäck jederzeit im Zaum, wenn es auf perfekt profilierten Conti-Reifen über Straßen, Radwege oder Schotterpisten gleitet.

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Fragen und Antworten zum STEVENS E-8X Tour Lady, Modelljahr 2022

Welche preisempfehlung hat der hersteller stevens angegeben.

Die UVP für das Angebot vom E-8X Tour Lady beträgt 3.799,00 €.

Wie viele Gänge hat das E-8X Tour Lady von STEVENS?

Die Kettenschaltung des E-8X Tour Lady hat 12 Gänge.

Hat das E-8X Tour Lady von STEVENS eine Rücktrittbremse?

Nein, es ist eine hydraulische Scheibenbremse von Shimano verbaut.

Gibt es das STEVENS, E-8X Tour Lady aktuell günstiger?

Die Fahrradsuchmaschine & Preisvergleich marktplatz.bike findet aktuell 4 Angebote für das E-8X Tour Lady, 2022.

Wie groß sind die Laufräder vom STEVENS, E-8X Tour Lady?

Beim E-8X Tour Lady aus dem Jahr 2022 wurden Laufräder in der Größe 28 Zoll verbaut.

Wie viel Federweg hat die verbaute SR SUNTOUR Federgabel beim STEVENS, E-8X Tour Lady?

Die Federgabel SR SUNTOUR Mobie25-Air LOR / Luftfederung / Lockout / Konischer Gabelschaft 1 1/8″ - 1 1/2″ / O.L.D.: 100 mm / Bremse: Postmount-Disc 160 / Schutzblech-Ösen hat einen Federweg von 63 mm.

Aus welchem Material ist der Fahrradrahmen beim E-8X Tour Lady?

Beim E-8X Tour Lady 2022 kommt Aluminium als Werkstoff zum Einsatz.

Wie viel Akkukapazität hat der Bosch E-Bike Akku im 2022 - STEVENS, E-8X Tour Lady?

STEVENS gibt beim E-8X Tour Lady, 2022 eine Akkukapazität von 500 Wh an.

Welches E-Bike Display ist beim STEVENS - E-8X Tour Lady verfügbar?

Beim E-8X Tour Lady von STEVENS kommt ein Bosch Kiox zum Einsatz.

Welcher E-Bike Motor ist beim STEVENS - E-8X Tour Lady verbaut?

Beim E-8X Tour Lady von STEVENS kommt ein Bosch G4 Performance Line CX Cruise E-Bike Motor von Bosch mit 85 Nm zum Einsatz.

Wie viel Nm hat der E-Bike Motor im STEVENS - E-8X Tour Lady, 2022? Wie Stark ist der Bosch Motor?

Der Motorhersteller Bosch gibt für den im E-8X Tour Lady verbauten Bosch G4 Performance Line CX Cruise Motor ein Motordrehmoment von 85 Nm an.

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Here's the prize money payout for each golfer at the 2024 Corales Puntacana Championship

B illy Horschel jumped out to an early scorching start with four birdies on the first five holes Sunday to quickly take the lead, one he would never relinquish. Horschel then added another four birdies and an eagle to his scorecard to shoot a final-round 63 and win the Corales Puntacana Championship for his eighth PGA Tour title. The 63 also matched a course record at the Corales course at Puntacana Resort in the Dominican Republic.

Horschel, 37, followed 67-69 with 66-63 over the weekend to end at 23-under-total, two shots ahead of Wesley Bryan, who was looking to go wire-to-wire while playing on a sponsor exemption this week. It was his best finish on tour since 2017.

This marks the sixth time in the previous seven playings of the event that the winner has been in his 30s. Horschel also earned $720,000 from the overall $4 million purse. Bryan earned $436,000.

For Horschel, it was his first victory since the Memorial in 2022, where he topped Aaron Wise by four shots that week.

"This game of golf's so fickle, I think you can put a lot into it and get everything you want out of it," Horschel said. "But I knew in my 14 years, 13 years previously on the PGA Tour that I had the ability, I had the talent, I just needed to continue to work hard and do the right things and continue to believe that good stuff was going to come to the forefront at some point in time."

Horschel was asked about winning an opposite field event for the first time in his career. He was not in the signature events as he finished last season ranked No. 90 in FedEx Cup standings. He entered this week ranked 83rd in the World Ranking, having missed the cut at his last start, the Valero Texas Open two weeks ago.

"The PGA Tour has a lot of tournaments and it's tough for every tournament to get their due," he said. "Opposite field events have been crucial for a lot of players coming up the ranks. Look at Tony Finau, Viktor Hovland winning in Puerto Rico, Matt Wallace won this. So listen, it's another opportunity to play, it's another opportunity to become a better player, to get that win on the PGA Tour.

Also of note, twin brothers Parker and Pierceson Coody both finished inside the top 20. Parker opened with a first-round 66 and ended tied for sixth place at 16 under par. Pierceson opened with consecutive rounds of 67 and tied for 18th place at 12 under par, four shots behind his brother.

Here’s the prize money payout for each golfer who made the cut.

Win: Billy Horschel, -23/265, $720,000

2: Wesley Bryan, -21/267, $436,000

3: Kevin Tway, -19/269, $276,000

T-4: Charley Hoffman, -18/270, $180,000

T-4: Justin Lower, -18/270, $180,000

T-6: Chan Kim, -16/272, $135,000

T-6: Parker Coody, -16,/272 $135,000

T-6: Alex Smalley, -16/272, $135,000

T-9: Peter Kuest, -15/273, $113,000

T-9: Greyson Sigg, -15/273, $113,000

T-11: Matti Schmid, -14/274, $193,000

T-11: Trace Crowe, -14/274, $93,000

T-11: Taylor Pendrith, -14/274, $93,000

T-14: Ben Griffin, -13/275, $71,000

T-14: Michael Kim, -13/275, $71,000

T-14: Rafael Campos, -13/275, $71,000

T-14: Nico Echavarria, -13/275, $71,000

T-18: Jorge Campillo, -12/276, $53,000

T-18: Sean O'Hair, -12/276, $53,000

T-18: Davis Thompson, -12/276, $53,000

T-18: Pierceson Coody, -12/276, $53,000

T-18: Bill Haas, -12/276, $53,000

T-23: Adrien Dumont de Chassart, -11/277, $31,600

T-23: Alex Fitzpatrick, -11/277, $ 31,600

T-23: Patrick Fishburn, -11/277, $ 31,600

T-23 : Callum Tarren, -11/277, $ 31,600

T-23 : Vince Whaley, -11/277, $ 31,600

T-23 : Jacob Bridgeman, -11/277, $ 31,600

T-23 : Alex Noren, -1/277, $ 31,600

T-23 : Jhonattan Vegas, -11/277, $ 31,600

T-23 : Jimmy Stanger, -11/277, $ 31,600

T-23 : Patton Kizzire, -11/277, $ 31,600

T-33: Rico Hoey, -10/278, $22,800

T-33: Chez Reavie, -10/278, $22,800

T-33: Harrison Endycott, -10/278, $22,800

T-36: S.H. Kim, -9/279, $19,450

T-36 : Lanto Griffin, -9/279, $19,450

T-36 : Mark Hubbard, -9/279, $19,450

T-36 : Henrik Norlander, -9/279, $19,450

T-40: Sam Stevens, -8/280, $16,600

T-40: K.H. Lee, -8/280, $16,600

T-40: Max Greyserman, -8/280, $16,600

T-43: Victor Perez, -7/281, $12,680

T-43 : Sam Ryder, -7/281, $ 12,680

T-43 : William McGirt, -7/281, $ 12,680

T-43 : Adam Long, -7/281, $ 12,680

T-43 : Doug Ghim, -7/281, $ 12,680

T-43 : Harry Higgs, -7/281, $ 12,680

T-43 : Matt NeSmith, -7/281, $ 12,680

T-50: Daniel Berger, -6/282, $9,848

T-50 : Jimmy Walker, -6/282, $ 9,848

T-50 : Austin Smotherman, -6/282, $ 9,848

T-50 : Zecheng Dou, -6/282, $ 9,848

T-50 : Chad Ramey, -6/282, $ 9,848

T-55: Tyson Alexander, -5/283, $9,280

T-55 : Wilson Furr, -5/283, $9,280

T-55 : Ryan Palmer, -5/283, $9,280

T-55 : Ben Martin, -5/283, $9,280

T-59: Richy Wrenski, -4/284, $8,960

T-59 : Scott Piercy, -4/284, $ 8,960

T-59 : Brandon Wu, -4/284, $ 8,960

T-59 : Robert Streb, -4/284, $ 8,960

T-63: Tom Whitney, -3/285, $8,720

T-63: James Hahn, -3/285, $8,720

65: Brandon Berry, -2/286, $8,600

66: Scott Gutschewski, -1/287, $8,520

T-67: Troy Merritt, E/288, $8,360

T-67: Joel Dahmen, E/288, $8,360

T-67: Ryan Armour, E/288, $8,360

70: Erik Compton, +3/291, $8,200

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• Frame Aluminium 6061 TB, O.L.D.: 142 mm, Brake: postmount disc 7", BB: Bosch, Cable routing: internal, Fender + rack mounts
• Fork SR Suntour Mobie25-Air LOR, Travel: 63 mm, Air suspension, Lockout, Tapered Steerer 1 1/8" - 1 1/2", O.L.D.: 100 mm, Brake: postmount disc 6", Fender mounts
• Motor Bosch G4 Performance Line CX Cruise, Continuous rated power: 250 W, Max. torque: 85 Nm, Breakaway at 25 km/h (15.5 mph), No of notches: 4 drive modes with support levels 60-340 % plus walk assistance, Mileage: See BOSCH Range Assistant
• Hubs Shimano MT410, Axle: QR12x148 mm
• Wheels Oxygen RM-T20 Disc, ETRTO: 20 x 622
• Tires Continental Double Fighter III, Tire size: 50-622, Reflective stripes
• Chain Shimano CN-M6100
• Crank Oxygen E-Scorpo, BB type: Bosch / ISIS
• Bottom Bracket Bosch, press-fit
• Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT Shadow+, RD-M8100-SGS, 12-speed, Total capacity: 41 T
• Shifters Shimano Deore XT, SL-M8100-R, 12-speed
• Brakeset Shimano Deore XT, BR-M8100, Hydraulic disc brake
• Handlebar Oxygen E-Scorpo, Width: 700 mm, Backsweep: 9°, Rise: 25 mm, Clamp: 31.8 mm
• Saddle Oxygen Havoc
• Seatpost Oxygen E-Scorpo, Length: 320 mm, Diameter: 30,9 mm, Insertion depth: min. 100 mm
• Stem Oxygen E-Scorpo, Handlebar clamp: 31.8 mm, Angle: 17°
• Headset STEVENS AH Taper 1 1/8"-1 1/2", Upper bearing cup: ZS44/28.6, Lower bearing cup: ZS55/40

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Best of Moscow by high speed train

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

countflorida

We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

Emperor Norton

Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

Countflorida,

This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

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scubacruiserx2

Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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