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Poppy Specifications

Don't Trip Poppy Trucks come with the following options:

• 100mm hanger space-able to 106mm-112mm-118mm
• 125mm hanger space-able to 131mm-137mm-143mm
• 152mm hanger space-able to 158mm-164mm-170mm
• Baseplate angle:  55 degrees for the front truck (also available in 45 degrees) / 20 degrees for the rear truck.
• Mounting:  6 holes
• Stock Bushings:   75a Riptide APS barrels for the front truck/ 90a Riptide APS barrels for the rear truck
• Stock Pivot cups:  96a Riptide WFB pivot tubes

Other Features

• AN6-24a aircraft bolt kingpins  
• Built-in spherical bearing in hangers
• Inline axle for the rear truck

Also comes with axle spacers, bearing spacers, washer for top bushing and axle and kingpin nuts.

Don’t Trip Skateboards has listened to the needs and wants of the LDP community and through the testing a feedback of a select few, responded with the Don’t Trip Poppys. Between the hanger spacing options, stock AN6 kingpins, the spherical bearing hangers, and all the other goodies, LDP skaters can rejoice in a readily available precision truck made specifically for Long Distance Pumping (but great for other types of skating too!).

Initial Thoughts

It is a rare occurrence to buy a set of trucks that are nearly ready-to-ride straight out of the box. For some, the Poppys may need little-to-no tweaking.

Taking it out of the box, I noticed that the kingpins fit perfectly snug in the base plate with the hex of the bolt underneath the base plate. I needed a hammer and a random piece of hardware (an old kingpin will do) in order to tap out the kingpin so I could change out the bushings. I’d recommend temporarily flipping the kingpins (so that the kingpin nut is under the base plate) only while you are dialing in your Poppys.

Otherwise you’ll have to dismount the trucks from your board each time you want to swap bushings. Once you find a bushing combo you are happy with, make sure to flip those kingpins around again, with the thread sticking out on top and the hex part of the bolt under the base plate. This provides the snuggest fit possible for the kingpin (refer to how the trucks are setup in any of the pictures in this review if I’m confusing you). You’ll have to give the kingpin a few light taps to get it back in the original way.

What LDP setup experience would be complete without several tweaking sessions?! So after messing with these beautiful trucks for a few skate sessions, I got them pretty much how I want them. Most of my LDP voyages involve some uphill battles so I went with this setup:

Front Truck 75a APS Riptide Fatcone boardside (skinny side facing the hanger) 70 APS Riptide Fatcone roadside (fat side facing the hanger) Wedged an additional 9 degrees; bringing the truck to 64 degrees Axles spaced out to the max (143mm)

Rear Truck 95a Abec11 Reflex barrel boardside 90a Riptide APS barrel roadside Wedged an additional 5 degrees, bringing the truck to 25 degrees. Axles spaced out to the max (143mm)

I wouldn’t be surprised if I still do some more tweaking here and there, but this setup is working pretty close to how I would like it to. Remember that the setup that works for me, may not work for you. As with anything else in longboarding/skateboarding, you might have to mess with bushing combinations and angles (in which case a Khiro Wedge kit is very useful!) for a little while to get your setup dialed in just right.

Before and after tweaking my setup - and everywhere in between - I sincerely appreciated the drive and acceleration I got out of the Poppys. I noticed that I was able reach a higher top speed with the Poppys and they also accelerated quicker than my previous pumping setup (a Bennett Vector 5.0 and a 129mm Tracker RTS).

I took them out to a local trail that was eight miles back and forth. They performed wonderfully. I only needed to push for a couple of the steeper hills. Other than that, I pumped the whole way no problem. I was certainly using a bit less energy than with my previous setup, while still getting a great workout of course. The reverse kingpin (RKP) design of the Poppys gives a very “linear feel” when pumping when compared to a lot of the traditional kingpin (TKP) trucks commonly used in LDP.

It’s hard to explain, but with a TKP truck I feel like I’m going side-to-side more when pumping, while with the Poppys, I feel that a lot more of my energy is directed forward. I honestly believe that the design, in addition to the well-crafted precision of the truck, allows for less wasted energy in each pump. I was somewhat skeptical with how well an RKP truck such as the Poppys would perform as I pumped uphill, but with the appropriate setup (and some effort), they’ll get you up the hills as well.

So I was able to pump uphill with my Poppys… What about downhill? Don’t assume that Poppys are limited to just trail riding and LDP voyages… Oh no. LDP is great exercise and all, but sometimes you just want to go down a hill. Even with my big ol’ flexy Longboard Larry Walkabout, I have no problem charging down some hills with these.

Put the Poppys on a smaller topmount or a slalom deck and you have yourself a pretty sweet garage racer too. What I like even more about them is their carving and turning capabilities. The openness of the bushing seat, in addition the spherical bearing and Riptide pivot tube, allows these to turn sharply when desired, making them great for carving a hill.

Complaints / Issues

Nothing serious here. I’m about to get really nitpicky as to what I’m about to explain so don’t really look as these as being “issues”… This is a review after all and nothing is perfect.

One slight complaint is that the roadside portion of the bushing seat is a bit more restrictive than I’d like. Like with many other trucks out there, a Riptide Fatcone is a tough squeeze on the roadside seat and the fatcone can only be seated with the fat side facing the hanger. I didn’t have any soft eliminator style bushing at my disposal to try out, but by slipping a hard eliminator bushing on and examining, it appears to be too snug of a fit to allow for a full turn. Again, this isn’t that big of an issue.

An eliminator bushing is by no means a necessity and I think most riders will be plenty satisfied with barrels. And if you look back at my current setup, I’m using my beloved Fatcones with no problem!

Now this really isn’t a complaint, but just a heads up… For those unfamiliar with trucks that have a spherical bearing in the hanger, the spherical bearing will hit the bushing ever so slightly when turning. Now you can choose not to modify your bushings and your setup can still perform wonderfully, but I feel an improvement when I shave out the inside of my bushings a bit. It takes a minute to do and is super easy.

Myself and many others do this with their bushings in their precision slalom trucks (and have been doing so for years) which also have spherical bearings in the hanger – nothing new here. A picture of a bushing I recessed using my Dremel tool is pictured below. Again, not an absolute necessity to do this, but I believe it will make your ride that much more smooth and sweet.

Closing Thoughts

The Poppys by Don’t Trip Skateboards are a game changer, no doubt about that. They are high-end performance trucks that are priced pretty reasonably in comparison to other precision trucks out on the market.

Another great thing about Don’t Trip Skateboards is their customer service. Whether you send him an email, give him a call, or post on the Don’t Trip Thread on SilverFish, Dan will get back to you very quickly. He is helpful, knowledgeable and pleasant to deal with. I can’t say enough good things about Don’t Trip Skateboards and their products and because of this I recommend the Don’t Trip Poppys with no reservation. Some of the top distance athletes in the world ride for Don’t Trip Skateboards and the results speak for themselves.

Check out the Don’t Trip Poppys and other Don’t Trip Trucks available at stoked.la.

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Our Description: The Poppy is Don't Trips high quality RKP truck that is perfect for pumping, DH, or carving. The Poppy comes with spherical bearings in the hanger and pivot for the ultimate in precision steering. 

Widely recognised as THE truck to have for pumping

Hanger: Adjustable 125-131-137-143mm or 152-158-164-170mm

Baseplates: 55 degree / 45 degree

Poppys are RKP Trucks CNC Machined from 6061-T6 aluminium Truck is available on 45deg and 55deg Bases Served with RipTide Barrels (80A Front, 90A back) Poppys-SP have Sphericals Bearings in Hanger and Pivot All Poppys fit G|Bomb Brackets

If you have a board with a wedged nose then choose 45 degrees

If you have a topmount pumper/no wedged nose, then choose 55 degrees

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Questions (2)

Hi there , how many degrees of the poppy i need for a Zenit AB 3.0? thank you.

for the Zenit AB I do not recommend to use poppy truck since the board is more designed around TKP trucks. you also need a hanger that is atleast 160mm wide

Hi there , how many degrees of the poppy i need for a gbomb push/pump with the super duper fork in the front ? The board is a Bossa Rio. Thanks

For any g-bomb setup, we recommend using the 45 degrees version

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high precission, really nice front axle. i love it!

Worth every penny!

Wanted it, bought it, did NOT regret it. Compared to my old Bennet Vector, even modded and sphericalised, it's like my board has let loose its inner speed demon. It just *wants* to go forward, all I need to do is let it ^^ I can pump this thing for miles without breaking a sweat. Seriously, it's an investment, but it's worth every penny. First review I ever wrote for anything I ever bought, it's that good :D

the best from the rest :-)

i love she more than all :-) enjoy your good ride long time and tausend to tausend of km i use it never problems never!!

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Longboard LDP: The Complete Guide To Long Distance Pushing

Posted on Last updated: July 13, 2023

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Long-distance longboarding, aka longboard LDP or long-distance pushing and pumping, is a discipline of its own. While cruising and downhill are the first styles that come to mind for longboarding, LDP longboarders form a very passionate bunch with strong dedication and performance goals similar to marathon runners and triathletes.

So what exactly is longboard LDP? It’s about covering very long distances in the shortest time, mainly through kick pushing but sometimes through a blend of pushing and pumping.

Casual LDP longboarders take pleasure in riding their longboard across town or between towns. Serious LDP riders, on the other hand, train hard to build up endurance and speed, constantly measuring performance and taking part in challenging athletic events.

In this post, I take a deep dive into this fascinating longboarding style, discussing its goals, challenges, techniques, and equipment – a very important aspect of LDP.

See also: Loaded Fathom review: bracket setup for high-performance distance and commuting

Table of Contents

Why LDP longboarding

When asked the things that drew them to LDP longboarding, riders have varying answers, including:

• Some riders initially enjoy getting out and wandering on their longboard and progressively start pushing over longer distances, and LDP becomes as a natural extension of cruising.
• Some riders start with commuting to and from work or school and love the feel of floating on pavement with each push, leading them to start pushing over longer distances.
• Some have an opportunity to travel between cities on a longboard, and get hooked to LDP.
• Others get into LDP longboarding as a more exciting alternative to marathons or long-distance running.
• Many riders are drawn to LDP traveling after reading about and watching Adam Colton’s travels, a frequent source of inspiration for LDPers.

The main purpose of serious LDP longboarding is speed and distance. People getting started in the discipline typically push 10 or 15 miles every other day, at average speeds of about 12 mph.

On the other hand, serious LDP longboarders can travel distances of over 100 miles in a single session on an open road or do dozens of laps on a closed bike path. Ultra skaters commonly engage in 60+ mile races.

LDP longboarding events

There are many LDP events worldwide, including world-renowned races. The Miami Ultra-skate event is a very popular endurance longboarding and LDP race event hosted at the world-famous Homestead-Miami Speedway in Miami Florida.

Competitors skate as many miles as they can over the course of 24 hours – the focus is more on personal performance than racing.

The Chief Ladiga Silver Comet Skate Ch allenge is a 3-day, 188-mile stage longboard LDP race running on the Silver Comet trail between the states of Georgia and Alabama. Longboarders compete for the fastest finishing time over the 3 days.

There are many other LDP events, such as Skate Central Lakes Endurance Festival (Minnesota), 200+ miles of paved closed-course racing; Bear Creek Lake Park (Colorado), a 3-lap longboarding marathon around the park; the Annual Centennial Sk8 Fest; and many more.

Besides races, LDP longboarders also often go on personal cross-country adventures e.g. skating from the Netherlands to Czech Republic, stopping in campgrounds along the way, from Seattle to Portland, about 206 of longboard pushing.

Some set out to spend the summer skating across the U.S or along the coast of Gaspesie in the province of Québec (pushing for 90+ miles), while others choose to go on a 2-year longboarding tour around the world.

One last type of LDP longboarding event is relay races, where you have no more than 2 skaters on the road at any time with each one skating 20-40 miles per day (120-200 miles per team) for 23 days.

Key skills and techniques for LDP longboarding

Long-distance longboarding is one of the world’s most explosive endurance sports. The stance, posture, and pushing motion are key elements for achieving high efficiency, which in turn allows you to skate longer distances faster.

The challenge is to build an ability to kick push with minimal effort and maximum speed and efficiency while maintaining good stability and avoiding exhaustion and strain over long distances.

It’s important to remain centered and reduce wasted movement as much as possible, so as to be able to hold a very high pace for the longest time over a run.

LDP longboarders are constantly seeking many subtle increases in efficiency and associated small speed gains, while trying to sustain such speed over longer distances.

During the leg outreach phase of the kicking motion, LDPers tend to use smaller muscle groups vs less efficient major hinge movers, both for efficient pushing and keeping themselves from rotating.

Riders often start with small kicks to get the longboard up to speed and then big strong kicks to maintain pace.

Techniques such as switch pushing are also essential for LDP longboarding, as they help spread the effort across both sides of the body, contrary to same-foot pushing.

Well-trained LDP riders can easily reach top pushing speeds of 22mph while remaining very linear. Once they get past a certain speed, however, typically around 24 mph, LDP skaters run the risk of losing control and falling out of sync, and possibly of crashing.

Pushing on the longboard can also be alternated with pumping, which requires a very different motion and different muscles and type of coordination. Learn more about pumping is this other post .

Endurance training

LDP longboarders agree the best way to build up endurance is to maintain a given pace over longer distances week after week. This is a better approach than increasing the speed on a given distance over months of training.

Certain gym routines provide effective cross-training for LDP longboarding. Specifically, combining big muscle exercises such as squats, deadlifts, bench press, row pulls, dips, lat pulls, shoulder press, shoulder side lift, and leg curl, help improve overall stability.

You can use heavier weights once or twice a week, e.g. with 3 sets of 7 to 10 reps.

Such a weight lifting routine must be complemented with something like running for building endurance. You should alternate long slow runs with intense interval training. Use running shoes or medium-cut basketball shoes.

LDP longboarding setup characteristics

Though you can pretty much LDP on any type of longboard, the best longboards for LDP have certain characteristics in common.

Deck and shape

The main thing to consider is, for long-distance pushing you want a deck that rides as low to the ground as possible so that your kicking foot reaches the ground with less knee flexing and squatting on the other leg.

Therefore, the best kind of deck for LDP (pushing, not pumping) is a dropped deck , i.e the standing platform is lowered relative to the truck mounts, and dropped-through , i.e. the trucks are mounted through the deck rather than bolted under it.

The combination of dropped platform and drop-through mount (aka “double drop”) results in the lowest riding boards for pushing. See Drop-Through vs Drop-Down Longboard for more on how these two deck types compare.

Be aware, though, that one caveat of such a low deck is that it may bottom out when riding over bumps and curbs.

Another aspect of a good LDP longboard deck is a slight concave for tucking your foot while the other pushes. Slight foot pockets also helps with pumping if you’re going to alternate with pushing over long distances.

Too much concave, however, can get in the way of LDP by locking in your feet too much.

Another aspect is flex : a stiffer deck means better stability and control when pushing (less springy), but on the other hand, a bit of flex provides suspension and helps absorb cracks and bumps and vibrations from the pavement, making for a more comfortable LDP ride. A comfort vs efficiency tradeoff.

More advanced LDP longboarders may opt for a bracket setup e.g. using G-Bomb brackets. These are the Formula 1 setups of LDP longboards, they’re a good choice for serious riders doing intense LDP training and competing in events.

That said, regular maple or composite decks are more comfortable and less costly than bracket setups, and a better choice for most LDPers.

See also: What Size Longboard Skateboard Should I Get?

Trucks and wheels

LDP longboarders often use Randal trucks, reputed to be excellent pushing trucks. Some choose regular, 180mm trucks, depending on deck width, while others prefer to run narrower trucks so the wheels stick out less with less risk of stepping over them when pushing hard – which can result in a nasty crash.

For pure pushing, 50º trucks front and rear work great, offering a good balance between stability and turn. For LDP longboarders who use a blend of pushing and pumping, on the other hand, it’s a whole different and more complex story.

In short, a classic setup is a low-angle Randall truck for the rear and a Bennett Vector in the front.

Be aware that true pumping setups are very different from pure push settings – topmount decks, smaller wheels, de-wedged trucks, etc. See this post on pumping .

The best wheels for LDP are larger wheels that roll faster at full speed – although smaller wheels have faster acceleration.

As for hardness, softer durometers (78A-80A) result in a smoother ride on rough terrain and better grip, while harder wheels (83A) roll faster and longer on smooth surfaces.

Overall, larger and harder wheels are generally the best choice for LDP riding on bike paths and similar.

Popular longboard LDP setups

The following are some of the most highly-rated longboard brands for LDP:

• Loaded Fathom

UPDATE : Loaded has come up with the Fathom, a high-performance 33″ double-drop bracket setup entirely focused on high-performance distance pushing and commuting. The setup is built around Loaded’s proprietary Zee Brackets designed by G/Bomb. Read all about it here .

For many years, big dogs in the LDP scene liked the 33″ Pantheon Trip because of its small size, low ride, and deep platform drop. The Trip has many performance records under its belt. Pantheon has even teamed up with Loaded for an updated version.

The Trip is often coupled with Orangatang Caguama wheels or huge Pink Seismic Defcons with Zealous bearings, and narrower Paris V2 trucks 150mm (50º). Some riders prefer to run pricier low-angle 20º Don’t Trip Poppies in the rear for better stability when pushing switch at high speeds.

The Pantheon Ember and Pranayama are also great double-drop push setups. Like the Trip, the Ember is designed around big wheels (up to 85mm) and narrow trucks (e.g. 150 Indy’s). The Antidote Hurricane stiff carbon version also works quite well for commuting and trips up to 50 km.

Another example of high-performance LDP longboard setup used for races such as the Miami Ultraskate is a Bossa deck with G-Bomb brackets , Don’t Trip Poppies trucks, and Seismic Mango wheels with ceramics.

The Zenit AB Push is another great LDP longboard option, super flexy and low pushing. You may associate it with Independent trucks and huge Orangatang Caguamas or similar wheel. You can also reduce the flex a little by switching to Paris trucks as that will reduce the wheelbase slightly.

Another great choice for LDP is the Subsonic GT40 which works with most symmetrical setup trucks (no wedging in the front or back). The default setup comes with Randall R3 180mm/50º (Amazon) but you can go narrower with 140-160mm trucks to avoid wheel kicks, e.g. Don’t Trip Poppy Euphoria 1500mm or more.

Some riders choose to turn an old dancing longboard into an LDP platform, e.g you can chop an old Loaded Tarab (stiff version) or equivalent and fit it with a G-Bomb torsion tail and bracket, a Don’t Trip Poppy front truck, and some Orangatang 77a Caguamas.

For some riders, a mix of LDPush and LDPump works best for long-distance. For efficient pumping, you want to wedge your front trucks up high but keeping your back trucks solidly angled or down-wedged, so as to get the most acceleration out of your pumps.

Pure pushing setups, in contrast, are generally symmetrical.

Messing around with the angles makes it way easier to pump.  Pure pumping setups, however, typically use topmount decks that are high off the ground (contrary to pushing) to make it easier to put more weight over the front truck/wheels.

For an all-around LDP pushing and pumping board, the Subsonic Century 36 is a good hybrid option for any rider level.

For more advanced riders and LDP competitors and elite riders, the custom Illuminati or La Maquina with G-Bomb brackets are top-tier, high-performing LDP longboards. The Illuminati is primarily a pushing platform with a stable and consistent ride, while La Maquina is a hybrid with both good push (including switch) and pump LDP capability.

*** Photo credits: – Featured photo: “The Endless Push” by Ruth Clapes Diaz – permission: Loaded Boards – Photo: “The Pusher Man” by Rob GreenRider; Rider: Max Vickers; permission: Loaded Boards

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Don't Trip - Poppy SP (silver) [front, 125-143mm/152-170mm]

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